What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)

[Jay 33,667]

The expansion was released by DCC in the USA and Silva overseas. 

[Holko 8,615]

John Barry's Raise the Titanic (rerecording, real fucking shame about the original apparently being lost but this is still great) - Hoo-lyyy crap. What is otherwise standard spy score fare is elevated to absolute greatness by an amazing main theme that perfectly captures Titanic's beauty and grandeour deeply steeped in reflective bittersweetness. I adore it!

[Signals 4,234]

The Matrix Reloaded

[Edmilson 5,663]

Happy Feet - John Powell

 

An interesting entry among Powell's numerous scores for kid movies. It's a little darker, more haunting and more mature-sounding than his many Blue Sky scores, and therefore a little less fun. But he does show some impressive choral writing that certainly inspired his Dragon scores. And I think I heard what would eventually become the music for Valka and the Alpha for HTTYD2 in here somewhere .

[Knight of Ren 646]

Kingdom of Heaven - Harry Gregson-Williams

I listened to my own edit of the sessions and I truly believe this is his best score. He excels when he works with Ridley Scott, and I think he did a fanatstic job here, perfectly recreating the time period with his exotic instrumentation, while still retaining a bit of the modern scoring techniques that fit more with his style. He creates such a vast array of themes and motifs, and I love how he develops them through the score in many different variations. Some of my favorites are definitely Balian's theme, Ibelin's theme and King Baldwin's theme. Such a great score, and I think it would benefit from an expanded release, as the soundtrack album is missing some key pieces here and there.

 

Stardust - Ilan Eshkeri

Fun score! It can become a bit too referential at times, and the appearance of Kilar's Dracula in Lamia's Inn is quite distracting, but in general the composer creates an effective and exapnsive fantasy sound that makes for an entertaining listening, even if i sometimes reminds you of other scores.

[GerateWohl 3,297]

The Secret Garden - Dario Marianelli

 

When listening to this I do not understand those who go crazy for lyrical Thomas Newman but don't care for Marianelli.

 

 

[JTW 696]

48 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

The Secret Garden - Dario Marianelli

 

When listening to this I do not understand those who go crazy for lyrical Thomas Newman but don't care for Marianelli.

 

 

I’ve loved Marianelli’s work since Pride and Prejudice, but  I fully realized how versatile a composer he was when I heard his score to Bumblebee. I was astonished by how different it sounded from everything I had heard from him up until that point. I have yet to listen to his score to TSG, but now I’m going to. 
 

I’ve been listening to Burwell’s Twilight and Howard’s The Hunger Games Mockingjay Part 1 & 2.  
Twilight is good, but THG is great. 

[filmmusic 1,587]

2 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

The Secret Garden - Dario Marianelli

 

When listening to this I do not understand those who go crazy for lyrical Thomas Newman but don't care for Marianelli.

 

 

Another Secret Garden film? I didn't know..

Thanks for pointing this out.

ouch! 5.6 at imdb, while the 1993 film that I know is 7.3.

The score sounds good though.

[Signals 4,234]

The Matrix (Viva La?) Revolutions

[Thor 6,332]

1 hour ago, filmmusic said:

Another Secret Garden film? I didn't know..

Thanks for pointing this out.

ouch! 5.6 at imdb, while the 1993 film that I know is 7.3.

The score sounds good though.

 

I sampled the Marianelli version awhile back, and it didn't do anything for me, I'm afraid. Doesn't even come close to the gorgeous 1993 score by Preisner -- one of his best scores to boot. For me, Marianelli "lost it" a bit several years ago, when he departed from the post-minimalist romanticism that he was so good at, and became far more mainstream/streamlined.

[Tom Guernsey 1,965]

2 hours ago, filmmusic said:

Another Secret Garden film? I didn't know..

Thanks for pointing this out.

ouch! 5.6 at imdb, while the 1993 film that I know is 7.3.

The score sounds good though.

We watched the later version a few months ago and it was fine enough, although I'd rather Julie Walters being jolly than dour (although I love Julie Walters in anything). I have to admit that I don't readily remember the score but will have to check it out. The Preisner score for the 90s version is indeed superb however.

[GerateWohl 3,297]

51 minutes ago, Thor said:

I sampled the Marianelli version awhile back, and it didn't do anything for me, I'm afraid.

It's a slow burner.

[thestat 276]

Goldsmith turned this awesome page in 97-98 when he went from pseudo-thriller/action material to doing a series of epic scores that built on the threat that Zimmer proposed for the sector (JG would have been very aware of the impacts of Crimson Tide) so he produced scores like Mulan and 13th Warrior that take that germanic, deep melodic approach to a lot of his work (which was always there - JG now just amplified it). The main theme for The Edge is probably the first clear evocation of that new approach - it is wonderful music and just amazing work (with a bit of Trevor Jones thrown in; but also reciprocated in Jones dealing with the Basic Instinct temp in Cliffhanger):

 

[Jay 33,667]

8 minutes ago, thestat said:

but also reciprocated in Jones dealing with the Basic Instinct temp in Cliffhanger):

 

What parts of which Cliffhanger tracks are temp-tracked with Basic Instinct material?

[thestat 276]

Jay, there's a number of tracks, including a substantial part of the end credits, 4:00 onwards is pretty verbatim. But the temp tracking is not a problem - It's Carolco, so its Vajna and the boys funding awesome big music for big films.....they paid for Basic Instinct so they own the stuff.

 

 

[filmmusic 1,587]

 

Oscar nominated score. Not among my favorite Goldsmiths, but still well made.

[Tom Guernsey 1,965]

9 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

 

Oscar nominated score. Not among my favorite Goldsmiths, but still well made.

Probably in with a shot at Oscar glory had it not been the Titanic year. 

[filmmusic 1,587]

3 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Probably in with a shot at Oscar glory had it not been the Titanic year. 

Hmmmm... You think? I would have preferred Amistad.

[filmmusic 1,587]

 

Does anyone here like this?

I'm just listening...

Well, Bricusse in my opinion is no Richard Rodgers or whoever wrote the songs in the classic Disney animation films.

I can't get into it. Perhaps if I saw the film?

[Bespin 7,566]

28 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

 

Does anyone here like this?

I'm just listening...

Well, Bricusse in my opinion is no Richard Rodgers or whoever wrote the songs in the classic Disney animation films.

I can't get into it. Perhaps if I saw the film?

 

Yes, you have to see the movie.

 

Just by listening to the songs, I don't think you can truly understand the tragic death of Petula Clark's character in the movie.

 

I'm sorry to inform you, if you didn't already know, that this scene is a real shock in the movie. It serves as the focal point of all the nostalgia that permeates throughout the entire film.

 

Do the songs even provide a clue that the story revolves around the events of WWII?

[Thor 6,332]

8 hours ago, filmmusic said:

Does anyone here like this?

I'm just listening...

Well, Bricusse in my opinion is no Richard Rodgers or whoever wrote the songs in the classic Disney animation films.

I can't get into it. Perhaps if I saw the film?

 

The film is OK. Never seen the original 1939 film, though, so I can't compare.

 

The songs are OK too -- varies from fairly meddling to great (my favourite song being the ethereal and dreamy "Apollo" which sadly only lasts for a minute and a half). Peter O'Toole can't sing worth a damn and talks his way through the songs, but that has a certain charm too. Like the Noel Harrison recording of Legrand's "The Windmills of Your Mind". And Williams' arrangements are appropriately lush.

 

As I think everyone here knows, I've had this on a LP-to-CD-R transfer for more than two decades now. So I never picked up the FSM release when it was fresh and affordable. One of my biggest regrets -- not because I think it can live up to 3 CDs, but because it contains score tracks, and I would have needed it in my collection in original physical format for completist purposes (I obviously own it in digital file format). Now it's WAAAAY beyond my price range on secondary markets. Bummer.

[Thor 6,332]

 

I don't play this very often anymore; I tend to go for the four LEGENDS compilations instead. Or the individual soundtracks, all of which I own. But it's really a great recording -- I dig the huge, lush space of the sound.

[Jurassic Shark 10,620]

9 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

I don't play this very often anymore; I tend to go for the four LEGENDS compilations instead. Or the individual soundtracks, all of which I own. But it's really a great recording -- I dig the huge, lush space of the sound.

 

Do you have other titles from the same series?

 

You should do a webcast on Waxman, btw.

[Thor 6,332]

2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Do you have other titles from the same series?

 

Yes. I have METROPOLIS, THE ADVENTURES OF MARK TWAIN/THE PRINCE AND THE PAUPER and FILM NOIR. Also previously had the HIGH NOON/Tiomkin one, but I think I traded it off many years ago.

 

2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

You should do a webcast on Waxman, btw.

 

He, he. Here's the link to my Waxman podcast episode from 2020, but it won't do anyone any good, because it's in Norwegian.

[GerateWohl 3,297]

30 minutes ago, Thor said:

He, he. Here's the link to my Waxman podcast episode from 2020, but it won't do anyone any good, because it's in Norwegian.

Technically, you could put it to YouTube with some pictures of Waxman and add subtitles. Or maybe the autogenerated titles from YouTube are good enough.

[Bespin 7,566]

Mission: Impossible 🕶️🔥💼🌍🏃🚀

#DannyElfman

 

 

Darkman 🎭🔥🕵️‍💥👤🌓

#DannyElfman

 

[crocodile 7,540]

 The Mummy Returns. My own playlist consisting largely of the original album and slightly extended by the Intrada tracks. I removed the last couple of tracks from the 2001 disc, which are redundant, and added the final reels music recorded in LA. That way, I have the expanded 87-minute album. The original was, obviously, missing important cues from the end of the film and the Intrada album is too long and doesn't flow that well. This is the best of both worlds and my preferred presentation. Shame about the sound quality of those additional cues but there's nothing to be done.

 

1. The Legend Of The Scorpion King
2. Scorpion Shoes
3. Imhotep Unearthed
4. Just An Oasis
5. Bracelet Awakens
6. Evy Kidnapped
7. Rick's Tattoo
8. Imhotep Reborn
9. My First Bus Ride
10. The Mushy Part
11. A Gift And A Curse
12. Medjai Commanders
13. Evy Remembers
14. Sandcastles
15. We're In Trouble
16. Pygmy Attack
17. Racing The Sun!*
18. Come Back Evy
19. Curator’s Bad Idea*
20. Sand Warriors*
21. Rick Battles Imhotep*
22. False Victory (Revised)*
23. Wrong Girlfriend (Revised)*
24. Happy Ending*
25. The Mummy Returns – End Credits*

*Intrada tracks

 

Karol

[Bespin 7,566]

Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life 🏹💎🔍🌍⚔️💥

#AlanSilvestri

 

[filmmusic 1,587]

 

It didn't change my perception of the score, which I thought was very good (with a great main theme) but not great overall.

I had hoped a secondary theme (from Thinking of Home/Work Montage) would be more developed musically (and not just change of orchestration and tonalities) in this expansion, but I guess the film didn't call for something like this.

By the way, 2nd time I'm listening to it now, and I changed the order of Learning the ropes, putting the film version in the main programme, and the overlay in the bonus tracks.

(I have this eccentricity that I want the film versions to be on the main programme always).

I omitted the first track too, because I think 2 times the exact same track, is redundant. 

Also, I LOVE the 2nd disc. I love such arrangements of old songs, and the jazzy piano renditions/variations of the Moonlight theme.

It was a great decision to include all these here.

[filmmusic 1,587]

 

I'm currently listening and I'm in half. I wonder if I should stop it or not.

While I love some dramatic Marianelli (e.g. Atonement, Jane Eyre, Anna Karenina), I don't care for this so far at all.

I guess it's hard for any composer of action music to impress me today, other than John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith.

[Edmilson 5,663]

I also didn't care for Marianelli's Bumblebee. It's just a good composer being forced to write a score in the style of lesser composers.

[GerateWohl 3,297]

2 hours ago, filmmusic said:

 

I'm currently listening and I'm in half. I wonder if I should stop it or not.

While I love some dramatic Marianelli (e.g. Atonement, Jane Eyre, Anna Karenina), I don't care for this so far at all.

I guess it's hard for any composer of action music to impress me today, other than John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith.

I wrote this somewhere else already. Marianelli can write great action music. Like this:

But the movie must allow this.

 

[Jurassic Shark 10,620]

So we need more movies about boxes, or trolls, or preferably both.

[filmmusic 1,587]

Can anyone recommend any action score (not fantasy/sci.fi) of the last years, that doesn't resemble the remote control productions music?

I tried to listen to Bourne Legacy, but alas it was not what I was after.

Something like the old good Goldsmith?

[Jurassic Shark 10,620]

What about this?

 

 

 

21 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

I wrote this somewhere else already. Marianelli can write great action music. Like this:

But the movie must allow this.

 

 

That's the RCP documentary, right?

[filmmusic 1,587]

Thanks. Just listening. Shows promise...

(never heard of the composer)

[Edmilson 5,663]

1 hour ago, filmmusic said:

Can anyone recommend any action score (not fantasy/sci.fi) of the last years, that doesn't resemble the remote control productions music?

I tried to listen to Bourne Legacy, but alas it was not what I was after.

Something like the old good Goldsmith?

There is Supercell, a score for a low budget movie that was lauded a few months ago for being old-fashioned and similar to the 80s/90s scores we all know and love - it even has a love theme! I didn't care much for it but it got a lot of fans in the film music community.

[Jay 33,667]

7 hours ago, filmmusic said:

Can anyone recommend any action score (not fantasy/sci.fi) of the last years, that doesn't resemble the remote control productions music?

 

Mission Impossible Rogue Nation by Joe Kraemer

[AC1 4,067]

 

It's one of those widely beloved movies and soundtracks that I don't really enjoy. 

 

 

Ah, much better!

[filmmusic 1,587]

11 hours ago, Jay said:

 

Mission Impossible Rogue Nation by Joe Kraemer

Yeah, have listened to it, didn't do much for me I'm afraid.

[Thor 6,332]

22 hours ago, filmmusic said:

Can anyone recommend any action score (not fantasy/sci.fi) of the last years, that doesn't resemble the remote control productions music?

I tried to listen to Bourne Legacy, but alas it was not what I was after.

Something like the old good Goldsmith?

 

TORPEDO, as JS mentions, would definitely have been a recommendation from me too. Put de Mayer on the map for me, and he continued to impress with the largely synth-driven score for the Tour de France film THE RACER (2020) -- one of my top 10 favourite scores that year.

 

A couple of other newish action scores within your parameters (or at least what I THINK are your parameters) would be BUCKLEY'S CHANCE (Gordon), TOKYO GHOUL (Davis), LIVE IS LIFE (Riveiro) or ZODI ET TEHU (Mika), but to be honest, it's really a type of score that I tune out of these days (most of the time). I sample them when I hear about them, and then move on to other things closer to my taste.

 

I think videogames have a lot of the action scores you're looking for.

 

[filmmusic 1,587]

7 minutes ago, Thor said:

LIVE IS LIFE (Riveiro) or ZODI ET TEHU (Mika)

Imdb says the first is comedy, drama and the second an adventure.

Buckley's chance, that says family.

I was thinking more along the lines of films like Bourne, Die hard and such stuff. Action in a contemporary setting.

[filmmusic 1,587]

21 hours ago, Edmilson said:

There is Supercell, a score for a low budget movie that was lauded a few months ago for being old-fashioned and similar to the 80s/90s scores we all know and love - it even has a love theme! I didn't care much for it but it got a lot of fans in the film music community.

Just listening. Quite good.

It's really weird that low budget films that get very low ratings at imdb or unknown movies have good scores, and big hollywood movies have.....

[crocodile 7,540]

 Braveheart. Pretty good, isn't it?

 

Karol

[Andy 3,214]

 

Tina Turner’s passing reminded me that it’s been too long since I played the complete score.  My God, this one has it all. Themes galore. Heroic, hopeful, tragic, romantic, somber, adventurous.  A sax driven rock based earworm.  Sumptuous percussion of all kinds.   Orchestration and a recording that just scintillates on every level.  This is a firecracker of a great score!!!
 

It’s strange this score doesn’t get talked about more, but I think it’s one of the best of the 80s.   I’m not super familiar with Jarre’s output.  I’ve never listened to Lawrence of Arabia.  But for me, this is my favorite work of his.   For some reason, it feels like this is to Maurice Jarre what Dances With Wolves is to John Barry. 

[GerateWohl 3,297]

3 hours ago, Andy said:

 

Tina Turner’s passing reminded me that it’s been too long since I played the complete score.  My God, this one has it all. Themes galore. Heroic, hopeful, tragic, romantic, somber, adventurous.  A sax driven rock based earworm.  Sumptuous percussion of all kinds.   Orchestration and a recording that just scintillates on every level.  This is a firecracker of a great score!!!
 

It’s strange this score doesn’t get talked about more, but I think it’s one of the best of the 80s.   I’m not super familiar with Jarre’s output.  I’ve never listened to Lawrence of Arabia.  But for me, this is my favorite work of his.   For some reason, it feels like this is to Maurice Jarre what Dances With Wolves is to John Barry. 

At least it's the only Mad Max movie with a proper score.

[Naïve Old Fart 8,672]

Agreed.

It's, also, among Jarre's most underrated works.

[Tallguy 2,160]

2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Agreed.

It's, also, among Jarre's most underrated works.

 

I'm intrigued.

[Andy 3,214]

7 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

At least it's the only Mad Max movie with a proper score.

 

I actually like some of Brian May's sound.  He also did the score to Frog Dreaming, which I believe you mentioned you enjoyed the film.  He also scored Henry Thomas again in the 80s flick that every kid my age loved, Cloak and Dagger.  Both are very listenable.  His Mad Max scores are okay, but there's no doubt Jarre brought something new to the table.  Arguably, he made it more Hollywood, but I think it's grand.

 

 

 

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On 29/5/2023 at 1:16 AM, AC1 said:

 

Spoiler

 

It's one of those widely beloved movies and soundtracks that I don't really enjoy. 

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

Ah, much better!

 

I...sort of actually agree with this.  I'd reach for Hearbeeps before Potter.  I guess it depends on if you want an overabundance of celeste and choir or an overabundance of 80s synth.

[GerateWohl 3,297]

1 hour ago, Andy said:

I actually like some of Brian May's sound.  He also did the score to Frog Dreaming, which I believe you mentioned you enjoyed the film.  He also scored Henry Thomas again in the 80s flick that every kid my age loved, Cloak and Dagger.  Both are very listenable.  His Mad Max scores are okay, but there's no doubt Jarre brought something new to the table.  Arguably, he made it more Hollywood, but I think it's grand.

 

Actually, I don't want to say anything against the three other Mad Max scores. But they are not something, that I like to listen to outside of the movie. It's just my personal taste.

 

1 hour ago, Andy said:

I...sort of actually agree with this.  I'd reach for Hearbeeps before Potter.  I guess it depends on if you want an overabundance of celeste and choir or an overabundance of 80s synth.

 

There I have to say, as I often dislike how pop musicians who start writing motion picture scores treat the orchestra, the same way I often dislike if classically trained composers like Williams are working with synthesizers. This is rather something for native electronic musicians like Hans Zimmer or Trent Reznor. Williams can manage many different musical styles. From classic, jazz, 60s pop to various folk and indigenious styles and even some avantgarde stuff. But electronic pop is really not his domain. My view.