publicist 4,643 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Comes out in Dec, but together with his latest two releases (Gavras, Polanski), Desplat owns the final quarter of 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: The C+C is definitely worth getting hold of. By the way, I was checking out the C&C JAWS2 score on YouTube and there's something I don't quite understand. Is the long OST version of Brody Misunderstood a combination of two cues? Or is the part from 1:22 in fact an alternate coda not present in the complete presentation? EDIT: nevermind, I realized it’s a combination of Brody Misunderstood (film version) and Rescue Party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,674 Posted November 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2019 Lady and the Tramp (2019) by Joseph Trapanese Really enjoyed this one. More than warm and pleasant, I think it has some substance to it that hits the right spot. The orchestrations are lovely, crafted with some care. The enveloping "A Home" is a notable example. And there are some moments of surprising harmonic vitality, like in the opening of "Busting Peg and Bull" A nice listen indeed. Jurassic Shark, Jules and The Illustrious Jerry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 The Red House by Miklos Rozsa (Gerhardt suite) So good it makes me want to see the film. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Don't, the music is much more evocative than the standard thriller setting deserves. Part 2 of the 'Mandalorian'. We are crawling towards something resembling a narrative but it probably will need 10 episodes to harvest enough pieces to fill a proper album. Goransson's action music is rather simplistic - it resembles Zimmer, 'Angels and Demons', 160BPM in particular, here more tinny due to a lack of 'overproducing' - , some of the travelogue music featuring the Chapter 1 theme is nice but it's all not very substantial, often too scene-specific to create a musical flow. Oddly enough, that's probably the best we can expect for a non-WIlliams SW project these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2019 The Mandalorian: Episodes 1 & 2 by Ludwig Goransson Repeated listens. This is the muse of the month. Keep it coming! Seven Years in Tibet by John Williams My praise for Seven Years in Tibet has been made quite clear in the past few years, but with each listen I find myself more and more attracted to this score. We all have our personal fancies; those unique opinions that can be appreciated by others not because we share them specifically, but because we find ourselves with similar preferences. For me, Seven Years in Tibet is my defining score, rich in beauty, unique orchestrations and heart-aching cello solos, and while I've ranted about it on the forums and the Discord numerous times now, settle in for another go at it. I have gone so far as to call Seven Years in Tibet a masterpiece, and perhaps one of Williams very best "dark horse scores". Hyperbolic as that may sound, I continue to stand by these claims earnestly, as far as personal opinions go, because very few scores are as wonderful to me as this. The bookends suite (because it is worth hearing twice!) is one Williams finest, with marvelous soars of the orchestra separated by Yo-Yo Ma on cello, as well as a few subdued passages in the lower strings. It hones in an oriental sound that doesn't feel very cliched to me, but rather sincere, as if it were a compromise between Williams sound and what the film calls for based on it's Tibetan setting. Young Dalai Lama and Ceremonial Chant is certainly a curiosity, featuring some of the more ethnic excerpts of the album (throat singing, unorthodox percussion). Peter's Rescue, Harrer's Journey, and The Invasion are a great back-to-back-to-back, with a darker, brooding take and more unconventional percussion. Approaching the Summit and Heinrich's Odyssey are all-encompassing cues, giving the main themes a full run-through with solos in mind, whether it be on piano, woodwinds, or headlining cello. Regaining a Son is perhaps one of the best cues to ever fit within a 2 minute span. Gosh! I really cannot say enough good things about this score. Requires listening for any true Jw Fan. If you haven't heard it, do the right thing! SteveMc, redishere and Naïve Old Fart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jules 59 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Parasite - Jung Jaeil Surprised that I haven't seen this show up much on this forum yet. The film is fantastic, and the score a big part of why the tonal shifts are able to work so well. Jaeil is in full command of his music, love both the classical first half and the thriller/drama second. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Mission Impossible - Fallout by Lorne Balfe Just listened to a complete edit that was circuling around. Balfe has been the most loyal and devoted Zimmer apprentice - and by that, I mean the one that followed his gospels more faithfully, instead of comitting the heresy of creating his own musical voice (like Powell, HGW and, hell, even JXL). This score sounds like a mix between The Dark Knight Rises, Inception and Mad Max: Fury Road, and him turning the classic Schifrin themes into RCP-style epic anthems is woefully misguided. It's rather funny to see Balfe posting enthusiatic pics of the big orchestra he used on his social media, when if fact the whole score sounds very overproduced, much to the way people seem to like these days. Look, this guy clearly have (some) talent. I really like the Ethan's regret theme, it is sad, emotional and gives the movie almost an apocalyptic, fateful, vibe. However, the action music, with a few exceptions is uninspired, unoriginal, boring and tiresome to hear. Anyway, it's not the worst score ever made, it's probably not even the worse of the last year. It has some good ideas and great moments. But I would really like to see Balfe developing his own identity, instead of just copying and paste his mentor on everything he does. HunterTech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Jules said: Parasite - Jung Jaeil Surprised that I haven't seen this show up much on this forum yet. The film is fantastic, and the score a big part of why the tonal shifts are able to work so well. Jaeil is in full command of his music, love both the classical first half and the thriller/drama second. The film was great. The music for the Spoiler flooding scene (starting out with the synth choir and moving on to the mournful string music) reminded me a bit of Williams' approach to similar moments (in a good way). Jules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 More a collection of easy-to-digest library cues than a properly developed score, it's at least not as awful as Balfe's usual blockbuster offerings. Without much of a dramatic backbone to connect the dots and the rather unsophisticated writing on display it may be polished enough for a nice background listen, though given Desplat's footprints it's rather a shame how broad and workmanlike the artform has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 A sleek, tranquil and often surprisingly melodic Africa score, vaguely recalling JNH's 'Dinosaur' and several Horners from the same cloth. The last third of 2019 isn't quite the lamefest the months before threatened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 15 hours ago, publicist said: More a collection of easy-to-digest library cues than a properly developed score, it's at least not as awful as Balfe's usual blockbuster offerings. Without much of a dramatic backbone to connect the dots and the rather unsophisticated writing on display it may be polished enough for a nice background listen, though given Desplat's footprints it's rather a shame how broad and workmanlike the artform has become. From what I understand, that's pretty much what it is, essentially a collection of demos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, Fal J. M. Skywalker said: From what I understand, that's pretty much what it is, essentially a collection of demos. Yeah, that's probably why it's better than Balfe's usual underscore, relatively speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Snow White and the Huntsman It has moments of great beauty and power, but still one of my least favorite adventure/fantasy scores by JNH. With a more aggressive writing than, say, Maleficent or Fantastic Beasts, it's action music is too modern, too RCP-ish and too devoid of JNH's own personality to be interesting - the time he spent with Zimmer scoring those Batman movies wasn't good for him. The Beach Warriors cue is a major example: it has some great choir writing that is buried beneath BAAAAUMS and lots of percussion, both real and synth. The best thing about this score, however, is the more tender, romantic music, with a beautiful theme for Snow White and some touching string writing on a few moments. His task was taking this very silly concept about a serious and dramatic Snow White movie (I burst into laughs whenever I think that there were a time on which Hollywood put millions of dollars on "dark and epic" versions of fairy tales), and he mostly succeeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Anyone else reckon Hollow Man is one of Goldsmith's best and most misunderstood scores of the tailend of his career? It copped a lot of backlash at the time for being "generic" and "boring", but when it has such gripping tracks like this, I pay attention... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 It's a hollow score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Goldsmith's 90's and 00's output has aged rather well, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 He seemed to accomplish dark and disturbing scoring way before the hip drone'sters were overrunning Hollywood with anonymous and interchangeable blegh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 This is the one with Kevin Bacon, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Yeah. It used to air a lot on the Monday night movie session on the TV, I watched it two or three times when I was a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 90s Goldsmith is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Schindler's List by John Williams Saving Private Ryan by John Williams Seven Years in Tibet by John Williams The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Brought to you by the letter "S" Bespin and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 11 hours ago, Thekthithm said: Anyone else reckon Hollow Man is one of Goldsmith's best and most misunderstood scores of the tailend of his career? It copped a lot of backlash at the time for being "generic" and "boring", but when it has such gripping tracks like this, I pay attention... I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 It is rather generic and boring, yet good at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I like the last two tracks. Other than that, meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Wha'?! ISABELE COMES BACK is fantastic. It's full of that CAPRICORN ONE tension, that JG does so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Medal of Honor: European Assault by Christopher Lennertz Air Force One (Deluxe Edition) by Jerry Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Jojo Rabbit - Michael Giacchino Some moments of Lost style drama and melancholy (which has been Gia's MO for "sad moments" since 2004) mixed with some moments of quirkiness that, for some reason, reminded me of Desplat's scores for Wes Anderson. It's a pleasant enough OST, and I imagine the movie was pretty hard for Giacchino to find a musical voice, but the final result might be adequate but a little dull and forgettable - a little like his Coco score. I'm a fan of Giacchino, but I find a little hard to appreciate his smaller, more intimate scores, I prefer him when he is doing action/adventure blockbusters. That said, Rosie's Nocturne is a really beautiful cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Close Encounters of the Third Kind — John Williams I was re-listening to this on Spotify and its dissonant textures are quite unsettling. Really impressive stuff. I checked the LLL website and the 40th Anniversary edition seems rather comprehensive, but then I took a look at @Jay's Google Doc and boy, is it my impression or it's the farthest thing from a C&C I've ever seen? For those who own the physical copy, did you rip it and reassemble the tracklist or did you leave it as it is to match the double LP presentation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 It is pretty much C, but not completely C. I did rearrange it into full chronology for my phone but don't dislike the LLL discs at all. redishere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, redishere said: Close Encounters of the Third Kind — John Williams I was re-listening to this on Spotify and its dissonant textures are quite unsettling. Really impressive stuff. I checked the LLL website and the 40th Anniversary edition seems rather comprehensive, but then I took a look at @Jay's Google Doc and boy, is it my impression or it's the farthest thing from a C&C I've ever seen? For those who own the physical copy, did you rip it and reassemble the tracklist or did you leave it as it is to match the double LP presentation? It's certainly not the furthest from a C&C, even Hook expanded is more out-of-order. If you pop disc 1 in and press play and listen to that whole disc as-is, you get a very comprehensive program of the almost-complete score, with only a few cues out of order. Then disc 2 acts as another walk through the score, this time with a bunch of alternates and little cues and source music interspersed with a lot of the same music you already heard on disc 1, but now edited different (to re-create the OST LP edits) or with clean endings/openings (when they were combined with something else on disc 1). Looking at the doc may make things seem wildly out of order, but that's mostly because I showed where you can get the version with the clean opening or ending in the main list. But seriously, listening to disc 1 as-is is pretty dang close to a C&C presentation, and the parts that aren't chronological don't change any thematic development, and the parts that aren't there at all are either very short cues or source music. redishere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Um, what exactly does C&C mean around these parts? I only ever think of Pixar's Cast & Crew CDs that they used to do when I hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, HunterTech said: Um, what exactly does C&C mean around these parts? C&C = chronological and complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Cheech & Chong. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Jay said: It's certainly not the furthest from a C&C, even Hook expanded is more out-of-order. If you pop disc 1 in and press play and listen to that whole disc as-is, you get a very comprehensive program of the almost-complete score, with only a few cues out of order. Then disc 2 acts as another walk through the score, this time with a bunch of alternates and little cues and source music interspersed with a lot of the same music you already heard on disc 1, but now edited different (to re-create the OST LP edits) or with clean endings/openings (when they were combined with something else on disc 1). Looking at the doc may make things seem wildly out of order, but that's mostly because I showed where you can get the version with the clean opening or ending in the main list. But seriously, listening to disc 1 as-is is pretty dang close to a C&C presentation, and the parts that aren't chronological don't change any thematic development, and the parts that aren't there at all are either very short cues or source music. I think Mike gave us the best of both worlds with that release. You can easily create the C&C playlist from the 2 discs and the 1st disc still works as a wonderful listening experience on its own. redishere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 It's an interesting presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I applaud every release that doesn't cater to chronological-extremists. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Incanus said: and the 1st disc still works as a wonderful listening experience on its own. I do also like how Disc 2 is made into a kinda competent program following the same arc, just with the shorter and separate and album-edited versions. It's not a random dump, and still has everything you need without even any editing necessary. redishere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Cheech & Chong. Cheese & crackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 6 hours ago, HunterTech said: Um, what exactly does C&C mean around these parts? Command & Conquer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 How to train your dragon 2, first half. Why exactly is this masterpiece plagued by performance issues in almost every cue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Is Nathan Johnson's score any good? Because someday he might end up scoring a Star Wars movie Holko and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 . Edmilson and Smaug The Iron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 The Lost World: Jurassic Park by John Williams: Such a brilliant and quite unique entry in Williams' catalog of scores. One of those sequel scores that while almost entirely stylistically different from its predecessor rises to the same level of excellence. Quo Vadis (Tadlow re-recording) by Miklós Rózsa: One of those classic sword and sandal epics of guaranteed Rózsa quality resoundingly re-recorded by the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra. I can't wait to hear their eventual release of King of Kings. Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 John Barry - Somewhere In Time (OST) John Barry - Out of Africa (OST) John Barry - Dances with Wolves (OST) John Barry - From Russia With Love (C&C) John Barry - Body Heat (John Barry album) Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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