Bespin 8,480 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Inspired by Karol, since two days! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Mission: Impossible III (2006) - Michael Giacchino Considering the mini-discourse regarding Gia a couple of posts prior, it's only appropriate I hear an effort of his that's most emblematic of his issues. Action writing that's too chaotic, themes not being greatly utilized, underscore that's too occupied with hitting the on screen beats, and stylistically too basic. The Ethan and Julia theme I'll still stand by, but it takes only something this mediocre to make me appreciate Balfe's Fallout a bit more. I definitely recommend one hear Ghost Protocol instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 7:56 PM, Jurassic Shark said: Just stay away from Star Trek: TMP, Alien, and Total Recall. ...and this eejit. Kasey Kockroach and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Hey, The Great Train Robbery is, uh... great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Too little, too late. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,281 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Having a "based on the themes of John Williams" kinda day... Solo (John Powell) - Still find this the most overall satisfying of the recent Star Wars scores. Yeah, it's a bit more loud and busy than Williams' efforts, but the level of detail is amazing and the quality and use of the themes is terrific and thrilling. Williams has almost felt scared to overuse themes too much at times in the last trilogy and the prequels come to that. Powell just seems to take his thematic material and give it a proper workout throughout, but in a way that makes sense within the context of the film and the music. Much more sophisticated and interesting than Giacchino's Rogue One (which I still like, but the use of the original themes and writing is really clunky in comparison). Jurassic Park III (Don Davis) - Having been reading the comments that JW didn't much care for Giacchino's Rogue One, I'm surprised at the indications that he didn't care for JPIII either. Davis' use of the original Williams is really interesting and, like Powell, he uses some of the more incidental motifs (not just the four note monster/raptor theme, but also the searching motif used at several points in the original, notably the opening, the visit to the Rex attack site and High Wire Stunts) in several places, working the in intelligently and without them sounding like random inserts. Plus Davis' writing generally is very sophisticated and combines Williams and his own style really quite impressively. I hope someone does enable an expanded release as this is easily the best of the non-JW JP scores (the first Jurrasic World score didn't do much for me, especially the cheesy park theme, although the OTT Fallen Kingdom is better, but like with most recent Giacchino it's a mixture of clunky and blunt... what happened to the guy who wrote complex action music for Medal of Hono(u)r or early Pixar films?!). crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Jaws (album) Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Far and Away Jane Eyre Heidi Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Jaws 2 (album) Karol Bespin and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 THE FLOWERS OF WAR - QIGANG CHEN Rather good, this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 7:55 PM, Bespin said: Inspired by Karol, since two days! And Dances with wolves Expanded! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 8:56 PM, Jurassic Shark said: Just stay away from Star Trek: TMP, Alien, and Total Recall. That is a way to gather enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Some people here should practice taking things less seriously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 James Newton Howard's King Kong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Bespin said: And Dances with wolves Expanded! Dear Sir, I must object in the strongest possible way , to digital track listings. This is corrupting our youth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Indiana Jones 4 It's a good score, without a doubt, but it suffers a little (specially in its complete form) with some uninteresting low suspense music. If the more subdued material was on par with Chamber of Secrets, Attack of the Clones or Minority Report, you would've had a great score that could sit proudly side by side with the other three Indys. At least there's some great action music (the first version of Ugh, Vines is amazing) and some pretty epic material for the aliens at the end (was it aliens? I watched this a long time ago, and I don't plan revisiting it anytime soon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Indiana Jones 4 It's a good score, without a doubt, but it suffers a little (specially in its complete form) with some uninteresting low suspense music. If the more subdued material was on par with Chamber of Secrets, Attack of the Clones or Minority Report, you would've had a great score that could sit proudly side by side with the other three Indys. At least there's some great action music (the first version of Ugh, Vines is amazing) and some pretty epic material for the aliens at the end (was it aliens? I watched this a long time ago, and I don't plan revisiting it anytime soon). I bought the INDY BOX and sold off this one. Did.nothing for me. Dull. But, then again I'm one of the few who loved the FILM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 DA 5 BLOODS - TERENCE BLANCHARD My favourite score of the year so far. Just gorgeous. It might even be my favourite Blanchard score, after When The Levees Broke. I watched the film last night; it's corny as hell but I did enjoy it. Not quite as good as BlacKkKlansman but thoroughly engaging. It's great, too, that this lush score has such a presence in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 RISE OF SKYWALKER I'm sorry , but I find every post'-EMPIRE' score dull. In fact, the only memorable theme is the ROS track 2( which I presume is a concert arrangement) Disclaimer: I haven't seen the last three films but I did read the MAD MAGAZINE parodies.😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 7:44 PM, Edmilson said: was it aliens I'm not really sure, but I think it was Trump supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 2:42 PM, KK said: I don't know if it's fair to say Gia hasn't done these things. You don't earn his kind of success and clout in an industry by just cruising along. He just doesn't have the chops to write the larger operatic scores you're describing. His big-band style and simple pop-ish harmony is better suited for the smaller and colourful Pixar films, which have easily produced his best work. He wrote two of the best scores of the last decade . You can find out their names in my " Favorite Scores 2010 - 2019" thread in GENERAL DISCUSSION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 7:15 AM, Edmilson said: Maybe the problem isn't with him personally, maybe it's more due to the fact that he does mostly the same action blockbusters which require a very specific type of music. He became so comfortable doing these action/adventure flicks that his style didn't mature enough. Great composers, from JW to JG, Horner, Elfman, JNH, etc., have worked on very different kinds of films, including those where it needs a more intimate, discrete scoring. But then again when Gia is presented with this opportunity (eg. Jojo Rabbit), he brings back just the same combo of piano and strings from Lost. I don't think that's fair to say, especially after you can hear his progression from Medal of Honor to The Incredibles to John Carter / Jupiter Ascending - if ever there was a project for Giacchino to go all-out it was for that dud of a film. It links to my next point too, that it seems like it's the type of project, how much musical freedom he has and what type of music the films require. You've also got to think that the paired-down, minimalistic scores he's produced for Jojo Rabbit or Bad Times at the El Royale were what the directors/producers were looking for in the first place. We all hope for some catchy, expansive, detailed orchestral score, but the films he's writing for just don't demand them and to be honest, after watching those films, the music's role took a backseat compared to the bigger blockbusters where themes are interwoven and developed over two and half hours. Also, you're lumping all these prolific composers together all of whom have had as much or more success than Giacchino, who've been around for longer, are attached to projects where their music has been well received and followed for decades. It's a shame that Giacchino has been attached to a bunch of flops, but I feel as if we're yet to hear all there is from him in the coming years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Krull - James Horner ;( Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Some Horner to mark the day. The Land Before Time - Maybe his finest work. It's a stirring symphonic poem in 5 parts, not counting the end credits. The writing is on the highest level. Wolf Totem A late work, but still a gem. Sounds almost like what a Horner Lord of the Rings would have been like. Again, some stirring lyrical moments. But there is also a certain drive to many cues that makes me sad Horner's talents were not more widely called upon in his last years. He was still relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, SteveMc said: Some Horner to mark the day. The Land Before Time - Maybe his finest work. It's a stirring symphonic poem in 5 parts, not counting the end credits. The writing is on the highest level. I agree. I hope it gets reissued soon. The sound quality was already stellar bruce marshall and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 The Rocketeer (Intrada) by James Horner War of the Worlds (complete) by John Williams Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (LLL) by John Williams Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Another fine selection, Inky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 But which Sibelius symphony did you listen to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Oh and I almost forgot: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (complete) by John Williams Just now, Jurassic Shark said: But which Sibelius symphony did you listen to? I prefer 4th and 2nd but this time I listened number 5 just for the opening horn tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 What's the Sibelius symphony that's featured at the end of DIE HARD 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Incanus said: Oh and I almost forgot: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (complete) by John Williams I prefer 4th and 2nd but this time I listened number 5 just for the opening horn tune. I've always found the final movement of the 2nd to be annoying. It sounds like it's gonna end several times, but it just keeps going. It's the musical equivalent of RotK. Just now, Naïve Old Fart said: What's the Sibelius symphony that's featured at the end of DIE HARD 2? Finlandia is not a symphony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I've always found the final movement of the 2nd to be annoying. It sounds like it's gonna end several times, but it just keeps going. It's the musical equivalent of RotK. Oh that is the best movement fake endings and all. There are numerous pieces in the orchestral repertoire where a piece has several endings but it still keeps going (for good or for evil ). And feels like Williams was inspired by the more sorrowful melodic idea in the movement for his Rebellion is Reborn suite in Last Jedi. There are no direct quotes or anything like that but the feel is similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Incanus said: Oh that is the best movement fake endings or not. Feels like Williams was inspired by the more sorrowful melodic idea for his Rebellion is Reborn suite in Last Jedi. There are no direct quotes or anything but the feel is similar. My favourite Sibelius symphony movement is the first of the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Finlandia is not a symphony. Finlandia! Ta, awfully. My apologies for not knowing that it isn't a symphony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Finlandia is not a symphony. A fun fact: Finlandia was actually composed for a Finnish Press Celebration Day back in 1899 as part of a longer suite of historical pageant tableaux and the original version of the "Finland Awakes" (later known as Finlandia) finale is actually meant to symbolize a fast moving first locomotive train among other things. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: My apologies for not knowing that it isn't a symphony. I'm sorry, but that's really unforgivable. 6 minutes ago, Incanus said: It was actually composed a Finnish Press Celebration Day and the original version of the "Finland Awakes" (later known as Finlandia) finale is actually meant to symbolize a fast moving train among other things. Indeed. Btw, what's your favourite recording of the Karelia suite? I love the work, but I've never found a recording I'm really satisfied with. 6 minutes ago, Incanus said: Finland Awakes Sounds like a bad Star Wars sequel. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Indeed. Btw, what's your favourite recording of the Karelia suite? I love the work, but I've never found a recording I'm really satisfied with. That's a tough one. I own about 4 different versions and I am not really entirely happy with any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Incanus said: That's a tough one. I own about 4 different versions and I am not really entirely happy with any of them. So it's not just me then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Incanus said: A fun fact: Finlandia...finale is actually meant to symbolize a fast moving first locomotive train among other things. ...and not a whole bunch of airplanes landing, while Bruce Willis shouts "Yippe ki-yay, muthafucka!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Incanus said: That's a tough one. I own about 4 different versions and I am not really entirely happy with any of them. The Nice Live at the Fillmore East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 How To Train Your Dragon 1-3. I tend to listen to the three OST's as one long album these days. As the characters grow up the overall sounds matures too. Quite cool. Karol Kasey Kockroach and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Today I'm off because it's Québec's National Day! Oh yeah! So it will be a Headphone journey, with expanded scores only. Happy Anniversary to all these superb scores! - John Barry - Dances with Wolves (30 years) - John Williams - Home Alone (30 years) (Yes, Home Alone in summer!!!!) - James Horner - Apollo 13 (25 years) - John Williams - War of the Worlds (15 years) - James Horner - Braveheart (25 years) - John Williams - The Empire Strikes Back (SE, 40 years) Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Far & Away (LLL) by John Williams The Book Thief (OST+FYC album combo) by John Williams crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt C 452 Posted June 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2020 Castle in the Sky - Joe Hisaishi The 1998 re-recording in Seattle for the U.S. dub improves upon the original soundtrack. It hews closely to the original compositions but having the orchestra perform them gives it more power. Just having Hisaishi and Miyazaki oversee the re-recording itself is a mark of approval. Just beautiful. Quintus, Incanus and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 King Kong (Barry) Wolf Totem Cutthroat Island Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets The Golden Compass Karol Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Didn't Sibelius compose some film music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 In a manner of speaking. James Horner used Sibelius software to write Avatar. Before that, he was using Prokofiev software (with Britten plug-ins) on his Star Trek scores. Speaking of which... Legends of the Fall Karol Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,178 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 On 6/23/2020 at 9:02 PM, Incanus said: On 6/23/2020 at 8:25 PM, Jurassic Shark said: Indeed. Btw, what's your favourite recording of the Karelia suite? I love the work, but I've never found a recording I'm really satisfied with. That's a tough one. I own about 4 different versions and I am not really entirely happy with any of them. What do you think of Hans Rosbaud's version? That Rosbaud DG Originals CD (the one shown in the second clip) was my first Sibelius, and while it's in (good) mono, it's still one of the best in my collection. Having not played it in a long time, the tempi in Karelia seem a bit unusual to me, a tad fast in the first two movements and surprisingly slow in the march, but Rosbaud still has moments that ooze more atmosphere than most other versions I've heard. Love the brass fanfares in the march. Rosbaud's Festivo is still my favourite: And his Finlandia packs a punch, too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 The Mask of Zorro The Legend of Zorro Willow Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Star Trek III: The Search for Spock Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Rosewood by John Williams: While Williams' 1990's output was fantastically varied I wish he had scored more films in this vein. Jaws (Intrada) by John Williams: In honor of 45th anniversary of the film. Still a masterpiece. Spielberg/Williams Collaboration III: Terrific and we could certainly use Vol. IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 21 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: What do you think of Hans Rosbaud's version? That Rosbaud DG Originals CD (the one shown in the second clip) was my first Sibelius, and while it's in (good) mono, it's still one of the best in my collection. Having not played it in a long time, the tempi in Karelia seem a bit unusual to me, a tad fast in the first two movements and surprisingly slow in the march, but Rosbaud still has moments that ooze more atmosphere than most other versions I've heard. Love the brass fanfares in the march. Rosbaud's Festivo is still my favourite: And his Finlandia packs a punch, too: I'd say Rosbaud's Intermezzo is among the better ones, although the high tempo makes the brass playing too choppy, but the Alla Marchia is just too slow for me. This is currently my favourite Intermezzo recording: https://open.spotify.com/track/7fJpvKz1jkireJGFogtx1H?si=rm0NaMKQTXq8MFJTlEyZ2w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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