Nemesis 244 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Star Trek First Contact OST CD with video bonus files that won't play on a PC anymore - Complete bootleg with great soundFunny thing is that I never could watch these bonus videos until this year on my new pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 *Kicks a chair*DAMN YOU LABELS! *Wallet melts in a puddle in my pocket* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I've been trying to sell my old version of this score for a while now (I don't like it very much), but I'm guessing it will be impossible now that this is out. I can't even sell my old stuff before new versions appear that appeal more to the fans. Oy veh, what a time we live in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I've been trying to sell my old version of this score for a while now (I don't like it very much), but I'm guessing it will be impossible now that this is out. I can't even sell my old stuff before new versions appear that appeal more to the fans. Oy veh, what a time we live in.... <img src='http://jwfan.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />Right: if it wasn't for this complete and chronological fad, you would be able to make more money on your used CDs. That's the really devastating part about all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I'm embarrassed to say that I am not that familiar with this score. I have only recently begun familiarizing myself with the earlier Trek scores (besides TMP, which I've loved for long time). Even being not familiar with it, I am extremely excited for this...somehow I know it is awesome. Must be the Force....er...wrong franchise. Actually, I imagine it to be awesome because I love mr. Goldsmith, and I love TMP, Insurrection and First Contact. I am curious how people rate ST:V agains Jerry's other Trek scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I'm embarrassed to say that I am not that familiar with this score. I have only recently begun familiarizing myself with the earlier Trek scores (besides TMP, which I've loved for long time). Even being not familiar with it, I am extremely excited for this...somehow I know it is awesome. Must be the Force....er...wrong franchise. Actually, I imagine it to be awesome because I love mr. Goldsmith, and I love TMP, Insurrection and First Contact. I am curious how people rate ST:V agains Jerry's other Trek scores.For me it's the second best after TMP.Personally, I rate them:1. TMP2. TFF3. NEM4. INS5. FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 244 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 It IS a very good score.I'm tempted to buy it also for my christmas gift package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 1 TMP.2 TFF...3 FC4 INS5 NEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I'm embarrassed to say that I am not that familiar with this score. I have only recently begun familiarizing myself with the earlier Trek scores (besides TMP, which I've loved for long time). Even being not familiar with it, I am extremely excited for this...somehow I know it is awesome. Must be the Force....er...wrong franchise. Actually, I imagine it to be awesome because I love mr. Goldsmith, and I love TMP, Insurrection and First Contact. I am curious how people rate ST:V agains Jerry's other Trek scores.For me it's the second best after TMP.Personally, I rate them:1. TMP2. TFF3. NEM4. INS5. FCExactly my choice, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Just because it is there is sufficient reason to get it. Go climb a rock everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Are you getting Jade also, Hitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I don't actually think KM will allow himself to like it.There's no shortage of people who will, so...i. e. me. This leaves only GREMLINS as the one gaping hole from the 80's.There's also "Psycho II", "Explorers", and "Link". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Lately I've tended to rank First Contact ahead of V as second behind TMP for Jerry's Treks, but I'm fully prepared to rediscover this score and perhaps shuffle them again once I have this new copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Now this is the Goldsmith album (which I do not own) that's been long OOP that needed to be expanded. Not First Blood, which is still in print by Varese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Right: if it wasn't for this complete and chronological fad, you would be able to make more money on your used CDs. That's the really devastating part about all this.It is, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Excellent! With the flood of expansions, I've been holding off on all Trek OSTs.This will make my first official Goldsmith purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I think the score for Trek 4 is not good at all but I actually really enjoy the film hahaha.The film is fun as hell, the music blows. I would have much preferred if Horner had finished out the trilogy. Ah well. I'm usually a completist, but I would not buy an expanded Voyage Home. I would never listen to it. NEVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I like the main title from IV.This is one of Goldsmith's very best, in my opinion. If you don't agree, I ought to knock you on your God damned ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I like the main title from IV.This is one of Goldsmith's very best, in my opinion. If you don't agree, I ought to knock you on your God damned ass.I couldn't agree more! I can't get into Goldsmith much at all, but his Trek scores(this one especially) are unbelievable. Trek IV is like an ugly girl at a bar. I could enjoy the main titles after lots of alcohol. Like the ugly girls, Rosenman's music gets better the drunker I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I like the main title from IV.Even before I became a score fanatic I loved those main titles.Always thought it would have made for a great opening to some medieval sword & sorcery epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 The film is fun as hell, the music blows. The reverse is true for V. The film blows, but the music is good. Still, I would rather have TMP, but I'll buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 The film is fun as hell, the music blows. The reverse is true for V. The film blows, but the music is good. Still, I would rather have TMP, but I'll buy it.Lol. It's pretty awful in some scenes. But the Kirk, Spock, McCoy camaraderie is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Lol. It's pretty awful in some scenes. But the Kirk, Spock, McCoy camaraderie is great.Right. It would be much better if you cut everything in between the camping scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I agree that The Final Frontier is definitely Goldsmith's second best Star Trek Score. This is how too I would rate them...The Motion PictureThe Final FrontierFirst ContactNemesisInsurrection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Hoyt 13 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 It did the best at capturing the feel of the Original Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 244 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 The film is fun as hell, the music blows. I find some of the cues from ST IV are fantastic. I always loved the Main/End Titles, Hospital Chase, The Whaler and Chekovs Run.I own alot of other cd's that haven't 4 great tracks to put in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 This is one of Goldsmith's very best, in my opinion. If you don't agree, I ought to knock you on your God damned ass.You want me to hold him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 But really... what DOES god want with a starship?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,090 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Insurrection deserves more love than it gets. First Contact has a main theme that is so great, it makes the whole score seem better than it actually is.I like the main title from IV.Even before I became a score fanatic I loved those main titles.Always thought it would have made for a great opening to some medieval sword & sorcery epic.Perhaps you should check out Rosenman's Lord of the Rings then. It has very similar passages to Trek IV, and LOTR is, well, a sword & sorcery epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Insurrection deserves more love than it gets. First Contact has a main theme that is so great, it makes the whole score seem better than it actually is.Sorry, but Insurrection gets just about what it deserves. And First Contact is that great, many of my favorite cues have the main theme nowhere in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Like I said in the Home Alone thread. If people are having doubts about The Final Frontier score, honestly don't let a subpar movie stop you from enjoying an awesome score. Goldsmith really went above and beyond to make a golden score out of a subpar film. It definitely is his second best Star Trek score. Those of you who liked Star Trek The Motion Picture's score then I'm extra certain you'll enjoy The Final Frontier's score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I find it funny that Joe (Data) bought the OST recently only now to find it's obsolete since this set has a remastered OST for it. I definitely can NOT wait for this score to be in my hands.Haha, yup, I just bought the OST used a couple of weeks ago. But I had some inkling that it'd probably get a complete release before too long, and I was okay with that. It was less than four bucks, after all. Anyway, I'll definitely look forward to purchasing both this and Home Alone! As always, major kudos to these labels for getting the rights and putting in the hard work to make this possible. Very exciting, and it really makes me want to want their releases just so I can financially support what they're doing. Very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Those of you who liked Star Trek The Motion Picture's score then I'm extra certain you'll enjoy The Final Frontier's score.It's easy to love, it even has a ram's horn for the klingons, a great workout of the klingon fanfare and the theme from Part 1, the lyrical god stuff and the usual dynamic Goldsmith action, in RAMBO/LIONHEART-mode, as this is from the late 80s. The only possible drawback could be the synthies, which do not sit too well with some, but they are really discreet here. I just hope the bright mix from the old cd is substituted for something more bass-heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Like I said in the Home Alone thread. If people are having doubts about The Final Frontier score, honestly don't let a subpar movie stop you from enjoying an awesome score. Goldsmith really went above and beyond to make a golden score out of a subpar film. It definitely is his second best Star Trek score. Those of you who liked Star Trek The Motion Picture's score then I'm extra certain you'll enjoy The Final Frontier's score.I chose Home Alone from these titles as a priority. What is stopping me from getting the others right away is my poor wallet and the little spirit of sensibility that whispers "you need money for other things too, food, rent and other expenses.". As much as I try to repress these whispers they do have a valid point. Maybe next year I will go on another score buying binge. But sadly not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,989 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 "you need money for other things too, food, rent and other expenses.". As much as I try to repress these whispers they do have a valid point.They surely do not!Karol - who wants to order ST V as soon as possible, but not just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 "you need money for other things too, food, rent and other expenses.". As much as I try to repress these whispers they do have a valid point.They surely do not!Karol - who wants to order ST V as soon as possible, but not just yet.If only man could live on music alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,989 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 There must be some way to convert the sheer enthusiasm of music into energy. There must be!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Well, THIS is something that made my jaw drop this morning !!!This is one of my FAVORITE Star Trek scores, and it will replace my OST easily.Why? The OST is a perfectly satisfying listening experience in its own right, incomplete as it may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Well, THIS is something that made my jaw drop this morning !!!This is one of my FAVORITE Star Trek scores, and it will replace my OST easily.Why? The OST is a perfectly satisfying listening experience in its own right, incomplete as it may be.Maybe it's because the OST is included (on disc two). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I deserved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORM 1 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 About goddam time this was released lol!,like a lot of people been waiting for this for a while,can`t wait to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Dang it. This makes three must buys from LLL for me and one very strong maybe (Jade).Nobody should let the quality of STV as a film prevent you from getting this score. It is not only a great Trek score but also a great Jerry score and just an enjoyable experience. As incomplete as the existing disc is, I enjoy it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Well, THIS is something that made my jaw drop this morning !!!This is one of my FAVORITE Star Trek scores, and it will replace my OST easily.Why? The OST is a perfectly satisfying listening experience in its own right, incomplete as it may be.Agreed, but the OST is included (Start of Disc TWO), and the Complete Score is nearly always better for scores like this for me.The OST is actually one of my most cherished CDs, and is a great presentation (Hiroshima performance of The Moon's A Window To Heaven not withstanding).But that CD will be obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Goldsmith really went above and beyond to make a golden score out of a subpar film.He certainly had plenty of practice.The only possible drawback could be the synthies, which do not sit too well with some, but they are really discreet here.Yeah, the synths are very light in this score, and well used. The only Trek score that's over-synthed to me is Insurrection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Am I the only person who likes the Hiroshima song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 There are bunch of smaller unreleased cues I've been waiting for and there's apparently more missing music than I realized. There's over 30 minutes added to the original score and that's with the silly song removed.I agree Mark! I am looking so forward to those unreleased cues from Mr. Goldsmith's Trek V score. Sorry for my lame post. I'm still speechless and in shock, well just a tad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I wonder if this will have the alternate fanfare Doug Fake mentioned over at Intrada a year or so ago? The way he worded it, it may not have been recorded even though attempts were made.PS: i just for the fun of it listened to the sequence with Kirk's chair you mentioned and had one of those 'damn, there never will be a Jerry G. again' moments. It's such a great combination of bold and goofy and no Giacchino would have been able to catch a little moment like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 So what's the story with that, uh, warp engine revving effect in the main title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I didn't know there was a boot for Eidelman's Trek VI. I hope that doesn't interfer w/a legit release. I would also like to have on this potential stdk Mr. Eidelman's original score to the movie trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 So what's the story with that, uh, warp engine revving effect in the main title?I think that was just a synth that Goldsmith did for the score. It didn't appear again after Star Trek V.I didn't know there was a boot for Eidelman's Trek VI. I hope that doesn't interfer w/a legit release. I would also like to have on this potential stdk Mr. Eidelman's original score to the movie trailer. The boot for Star Trek VI has been around for a couple of years and I doubt it would interfere with a legit release. Unfortunately the boot is missing the cue "The Search" and the trailer for Star Trek VI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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