crocodile 7,984 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I think that Horner was being extremely unkind in the interview...but I can also understand being a bit resentful of all the adulation Yared received at his expense and, rightfully or not, Yared also implied that Horner was being a dick by using the same soloist. Horner walked into an uncomfortable situation, and all he got for it was grief from everyone involved. I could understand him being pissed off...Yared's the saintly martyr, Horner's the tactless and talentless hack- it's not a pleasant way to be spoken about. It's a terrible situation, and neither Yared nor Horner were being professional.That's the perfect summary.Karol - who wishes both composers the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 but surely its contstructed in much more classical way than most film music. It's an almost old-fashioned score and probably the reason why they declined it.Too bad that old fashioned means a score with melodies, harmonies, and interesting rhythms. Unlike much of the orchestral noise we get these days. A few composers are exempt from this statement but much of what we hear, especially in those big Hollywood blockbusters, is utter rubbish. they might as well mix out the music altogether..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 One might argue that for the first time, film music is becoming it's own, truly unique genre, rather then just being an modulation of classical music/jazz/pop/rock/disco etc... adapted for use in movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Well if this is its own incarnation I don't want to be a part of such a movement. Pretty soon sound designers will be the "composers" for films since they know about as much about music as quite a few A list guys working on major projects these days. In some cases, more. I think it's honestly just a cop-out to dismiss music that has components that demand some attention as "antiquated". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 One might argue that for the first time, film music is becoming it's own, truly unique genre, rather then just being an modulation of classical music/jazz/pop/rock/disco etc... adapted for use in movies.If that's it, it's stupid. It's like having only one genre of vocal music, only one genre of guitar-based music, only one genre of music for stage plays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Well if this is its own incarnation I don't want to be a part of such a movement. Pretty soon sound designers will be the "composers" for films since they know about as much about music as quite a few A list guys working on major projects these days. In some cases, more. I think it's honestly just a cop-out to dismiss music that has components that demand some attention as "antiquated".Well, nobody of us wants film music to degenerate, artistically. But then again, as Bernard Herrmann once stated, the quality of the music has nothing to do with its effectiveness in the film. So yes, the lame and simplistic music can work against its film, but so can very complex and sophisticated score. Didn't it occure to that Yared's score was rejected because it simply didn't work well, regardless of composer's intention and the quality of the composition? Maybe it was misguided from the start, as Horner stated. I'm not saying I'm very fond of what we're getting these days, but maybe that's exactly what this abysmal film needed.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 244 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Do you think that Horner quotes Yared's "Priam's Fugue" in Briseis and Achilles at about 3:50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Maybe, but I always heard Yared's love theme in The Temple of Poseidon (track 4) at around 0:21. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I finally listened to this score last night.Meh. Didn't do much for me. Parts of it reminded me of John williams actually, specifically the imperial music from Star WarsThe last track, the whailing woman or whatever, was quite odd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 much better than the groban crap...unless you mean the track 'mourning women'.I think it is jarring to hear it, but it would have fitted nicely in any funeral scene as source music. but maybe not the entire cue, just parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 much better than the groban crap...Reeee-memmmm-berrrr!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 much better than the groban crap...unless you mean the track 'mourning women'.I think it is jarring to hear it, but it would have fitted nicely in any funeral scene as source music. but maybe not the entire cue, just parts.Yared's funeral music is actually in the Director's cut, as is his Spartan feast cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 much better than the groban crap...unless you mean the track 'mourning women'.I think it is jarring to hear it, but it would have fitted nicely in any funeral scene as source music. but maybe not the entire cue, just parts.Yared's funeral music is actually in the Director's cut, as is his Spartan feast cue.Is the mourning women cue used? Where would it go chronologically (within Yared's score)I put it before Greek funeral... (but i have not seen the movie...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 For you Troy enthusiasts. crocodile and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I have the unused score. It's musically very good but it might, I say MIGHT, have been too overpowering much for the film. Well we will never know. I haven't seen more than a couple of score restored scenes on YT " Don't make me come after you, Shark!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 In all fairness, it is bit overpowering. But because of that it makes a great listen outside of the film. In fact, it doesn't really need the film because the music on its own evokes a much more splendid spectacle than the one portrayed on screen. Hopefully, we will get to hear the whole thing one day. Karol bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I have the unused score. What's the point of having it if you don't use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 21 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: What's the point of having it if you don't use it? I tried to traded it but you know how useless the Trading Post is😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Great movie. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post filmmusic 1,823 Posted February 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2023 I haven't watched this, but this is supposed to be the whole movie with Yared's score! Jay, Romão, A. A. Ron and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 As I said over on FSM, what amazing amount of work must have been involved in this. Congrats to everyone involved! GoodMusician 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,944 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 That's incredible!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 310 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Does this edit include music that wasn’t in the ~60-70 minutes of music that everyone has heard? GoodMusician 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Stark said: Does this edit include music that wasn’t in the ~60-70 minutes of music that everyone has heard? Even if it does, it's probably not clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Stark said: Does this edit include music that wasn’t in the ~60-70 minutes of music that everyone has heard? I just skimmed through and there does not seem to be any extra music beyond the promo. Karol GoodMusician 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 How long until WB takes the video down? I want to see it, but I have no desire to sit through 2 and a half hours of such a silly movie, so I'll need to do it in parts, like a miniseries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: I want to see it, but I have no desire to sit through 2 and a half hours of such a silly movie, Yeah, me too. I just watched a love scene since I really adore the Paris and Helen love theme of Yared. GoodMusician 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 405 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Brad Pitt as Achilles is one of the more surreal castings I've watched in my lifetime. Though I haven fond memories of seeing it on a particularly jolly evening with a blonde Helena lookalike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, TolkienSS said: Brad Pitt as Achilles is one of the more surreal castings I've watched in my lifetime. One could say period dramas are Pitt's Achilles heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 52 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: One could say period dramas are Pitt's Achilles heel. Well, Legends of the fall is good, and that is a period drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Haven't seen that, but I've purchased the blu. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc 758 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 One of the most beautiful themes I've ever heard ! It still baffles me that it ended up not being used in the movie.. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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