Beowulf 4 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Uhm.....OKPointless? Perhaps, yes.Interesting? I guess so - especially here.Did I listen to the whole thing before getting bored? No.Since I'm so fond of and familiar with this track, this is like some big long tease. But I suppose it is interesting in a sort of academic way. It sounds like so many themes used on TV programs (and some movies) to relay the great unknown of infinite space or something (some parts sound to me like equal parts Star Trek: Generations or Sunshine even). The 'Journey to the Island' fanfare definitely sounds strange slowed down to such a degree and reminds me of Vangelis' Blade Runner.It also strikes me as something that would be played at an anti-rave or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Have you heard Williams very slow rendition of Goldsmith's ST:TMP theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Makes it much easier to write a transcription! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Have you heard Williams very slow rendition of Goldsmith's ST:TMP theme?Indeed I have and it's always puzzled me as to why he conduted [conducts?] it at such a slow pace.But then again, maybe it's that old chestnut of us having heard the "original" version so many times that we have just gotten used to it.It has most definitely happened so many times to me with Classical music, where the first recording I hear of a piece instantly becomes imprinted on my brain so that any other tempi sounds wrong in my head (two good examples being the first movement "march" from Shostakovich's 7th Symphony, which I heard first as quite fast, and Debussy's Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune, which I first heard as being agonizingly slow - hearing either of these pieces played any other way just sounds wrong to me).Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Wow. I suppose this is the musical counterpart to the video?Does anyone know what software this guy used? It sounds incredibly clean - no stutter.Edit: Found the program (its freeware) - PaulStretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 The slow JP somehow reminds me of Giacchino's score for Lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Most of these slow-down renditions result in them sounding like Michael Land's THE DIG. Which is kinda cool, albeit pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 For some reason this explains why I love the theme.This slow stuff has always been hypnotic for me, when it's faster it's like the concentration of awesomeness per second increases more than my mind can grasp.JW totally nailed sauropods, musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Don't know if I ever need to listen to that again, but I'm certainly glad you posted it, because it led to the discovery of that program, which I'm sure I'll be using in the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 A friend showed me the theme slowed down 1000% the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 When I first put this on, I started laughing, but then, it suddenly became beautiful, and I found myself almost in tears. It reminds me of a Gavin Bryers piece ("Sinking of The Titanic", or "Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me, Yet") that is, at once, haunting, and hypnotic. Why "JP", I wonder? Has anyone listened to all 54 mins. and 13 sec. of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Don't know if I ever need to listen to that again, but I'm certainly glad you posted it, because it led to the discovery of that program, which I'm sure I'll be using in the future!yeah now we can have the JP1 recording sped up to the speed of the TLW recording and Vice Versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Now that I've listened to it, I can't help but wonder what Blade Runner album would sound like sped up by 90%. Maybe it's a pretty good action scoring. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 8:35... :blink: "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain. Time to die. "EDITjust tried it with "Duel of the Fates"!!!!!going to wet my pants at the choir beginning slowed down!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 The runs in Hedwig's Theme turn into hypnotic, blurry sound design. Whoa. EDIT: And then it gets really frightening when we get into the louder parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 A friend showed me the theme slowed down 1000% the other day.That may take you a year or so to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 You'd finish to listen to it just in time for Tintin's release. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Wow, this has already come in handy. I was editing a piece of music that ends with a synth bell note, but my source file doesn't contain the full reverb - it cuts out. I tried artificial reverb on it, which sounded okay, but now I've just duplicated the part of the original reverb that I do have and stretched it out so it lasts half a minute. Faded it out manually (over a much shorter period, of course) and it sounds perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 guys try out the Imperial March middle section!that one sounds fantastic if you have the right speed - like the AOTC underscore should/could have sounded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'm shocked people are just now realizing how fun it is to do this. Where were you guys during the 90s when CoolEditPro was all the rage?By the way, before you stretch your entire library (someone's bound to do it), remember that if you stretch a song by 10x you will need 10x the space to store it (if it's remaining the same file type).Sadly, I cannot partake in listening to this. DAMN YOU CHALLENGE! But I do remember, virtually any action track from Total Recall sounds very interesting stretched out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 The fun of changing music's speed isn't new to me...but this is the first time I've used a program that could slow down a piece's tempo by 1000% without affecting pitch and without creating that awful shuddering, echoing, stuttering sound. The Ultimate Slow-Downer is the closest thing to it that I've used, but even that gets a little stuttery...and it can't go to the ridiculous extremes of tempo that this program can. I've never owned Cool Edit Pro (or Audition), so I can't compare the performance, but this is most impressive, especially for freeware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Just tried the software with various cues from Temple of Doom and....wow! Definitely puts an interesting spin on the oft-complained-about frenetic nature of some parts.Next up on the list to try, my own personal favorite, Hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I am so doing my next workout session to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The results can be incredible tranquil or incredibly tense...sometimes both, which is REALLY weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Can someone do this to Everybody Runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 WHAT IS THE NAME OF THIS PROGRAM!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Prometheus mentioned it. It's called PaulStretch, or technically Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 well it seems to be source code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The source code is available, yes, but when you download it, there's an executable file that runs the program... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman609 0 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The James Bond Theme turned into something quite sinister! The guitar makes some very interesting sustained sounds played that slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,127 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Wish they had something like this software for the Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 here hedji http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/04/29/paul-stretch-extreme-audio-time-stretching-for-os-x-to-download/ i cant find the windows version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,127 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Thank you.Does this help? PC version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 eh i found it, i find that the program gives it too much reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 You can adjust more than just the speed...you may be able to get results that are more to your liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 thing is, i dont know much about music terms: percents octaves and the like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 So I perused the source code, and it looks like it's doing some heavy manipulation on the sound file to smooth it out.Anyone want to slow a song down by 5x and then speed that sound file back up by 5x to see what it sounds like? I'm betting very alien and strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 thing is, i dont know much about music terms: percents octaves and the likeI think the main thing you want to adjust is window size, although I haven't played too much with that myself.So I perused the source code, and it looks like it's doing some heavy manipulation on the sound file to smooth it out.Anyone want to slow a song down by 5x and then speed that sound file back up by 5x to see what it sounds like? I'm betting very alien and strange.Yeah, he says it breaks up the sound into chunks and smooths it out from there somehow. Heavy manipulation indeed. I had the same thought about slowing down and speeding up again...I'll try that...EDIT: Actually, you can just listen to it with varying levels of that "window" modification at actual speed it indeed gets quite echoey and blurry.Oh goodness, "Saving Willie" gets rather frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 That JP cue was torture, I could only take 4 minutes of it.I remember when I was much much younger and flipping my LPs to the 45rpm setting. Battle in the Mutara Nebula never sounded so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Have you heard Williams very slow rendition of Goldsmith's ST:TMP theme?Indeed I have and it's always puzzled me as to why he conduted [conducts?] it at such a slow pace.When Williams conducted the ST: TMP theme in Chicago in 2005, the tempo was perfect. The Chicago Symphony's performance was stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The Asteroid Field - music be the most magnificent piece I have ever heard - sounds something that could be from Inception - but Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,127 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Have you heard Williams very slow rendition of Goldsmith's ST:TMP theme?Indeed I have and it's always puzzled me as to why he conduted [conducts?] it at such a slow pace.When Williams conducted the ST: TMP theme in Chicago in 2005, the tempo was perfect. The Chicago Symphony's performance was stellar.Would love to have heard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Have you heard Williams very slow rendition of Goldsmith's ST:TMP theme?Indeed I have and it's always puzzled me as to why he conduted [conducts?] it at such a slow pace.When Williams conducted the ST: TMP theme in Chicago in 2005, the tempo was perfect. The Chicago Symphony's performance was stellar.Would love to have heard that.It wasn't too shabby, neither, When J.G. himself conducted it in 1999, for his 70th birthday concert, at The Barbican, ably assisted by the L.S.O. Top that. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I got associations to Michael Land's THE DIG, although obviously not as developped. And from 30:00, it really sounds like Vangelis. Not exciting all around, but some interesting bits here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Have you heard Williams very slow rendition of Goldsmith's ST:TMP theme?Indeed I have and it's always puzzled me as to why he conduted [conducts?] it at such a slow pace.When Williams conducted the ST: TMP theme in Chicago in 2005, the tempo was perfect. The Chicago Symphony's performance was stellar.The only time I've heard Williams conduct it was on the Out Of This World CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Sorry, I really tried, but after 10 minutes I had to turn it off. Boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 You lasted that long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Jurassic Park Theme slowed down by 90% Very interesting. I love it. From 40:39 (LOL) it truly becomes - "Birth of a Nebula" material, that. Vangelis like, too. And you know what the early stages of the track reminded me of? Along with....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Melange, you twonk, it's SUPPOSED to sound like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Starting at 9:28, I love the 12-second build to the cymbal crash.This is haunting. Gave me goosebumps. I listened to 30 minutes, paused it as I walked away from my computer, then listened to the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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