Greg1138 3 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The list is in - you can do a google if you want to know the whole damn lot but I'm just interested in the score stuff for here....Nominations are:-127 Hours - AR RahmanAlice in Wonderland - Danny ElfmanHow To Train Your Dragon - John PowellInception - Hans ZimmerThe King's Speech - Alexandre DesplatRahman obviously a favourite after Slumdog.....and I actually think the 127 Hours score to be superior in many ways....Alice - well - not for me, but nice to see Elfman getting a tip of the hat.....HTTYD - nice to see Powell get a nod too, but he's written better scores that didn't even get a look-in, so we will see....Inception - don't....just.....don't.....The King's Speech - it seems Desplat can do no wrong at the moment, and it's clear that The King's Speech is a big favourite in many categories so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him walk off with this one,,,,whether it is any good or not I have no idea - I'm ashamed - as a Desplat fan - to say that I have yet to hear a note of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Solid list! At least all of them are actually film scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I think we've got a 3-way possibility between Rahman, Desplat and Zimmer.Powell's a Brit, which probably helped, but I don't think he's got a chance compared to the above. Ask anyone over here which score they actually remembered (due to volume and appeal to non-score lovers), and I guarantee they'll say Inception.But yeah, I prefer this list to the globes.Need to listen to 127 Hours, as I have no idea at all what it sounds like (admittedly, a 'western' flavoured score from Rahman is something I'm curious about).Edit: first impression - first track is good, but it tails off quite quickly. Nothing particularly special really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 "The King's Speech": just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Sorry to see no mention of Cave/Ellis' THE ROAD, Reznor/Ross' SOCIAL NETWORK, Daft Punk's TRON or Mansell's BLACK SWAN. Powell's DRAGON was OK, but a bit too conventional, IMO. INCEPTION and ALICE are great scores, while I seriously need to hear Rahman's 127 HOURS, being such a fan of his. As usual, I'm indifferent to the Desplat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The Road was 2009 (although I agree that it's a fine score).I'm glad Social Network and Tron have been ignored. Neither are really my type of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 My bet is that Inception will win, but I'm quite pleased to see that the best score of the year is at least included in the nominees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I have no opinion either way. Just a weak year for film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Shame Mansell and Daft Punk weren't nominated. HTTYD is failing on me a bit. Surprised at Alice, I haven't heard it but I thought everyone said it was Elfman on autopilot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 The Road was 2009 (although I agree that it's a fine score).True. It was 2010 here in Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Surprised at Alice, I haven't heard it but I thought everyone said it was Elfman on autopilot?It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 It is. Mostly.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 It's good music but nothing groundbreaking.And half the album comprises of Alice's Theme in some orchestration or another.It's a lame show anyway, and many US nominees don't bother turning up. And it's not live, with most smaller categories in a 'earlier this evening...' segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 This is a much more satisfying list than the Globes. With The Social Network out of the way, I could see a score win for Inception. It's really the best up there. Powell is meh, and even though I prefer Desplat to Zimmer, The King's Speech is pretty boring. I'd prefer The Ghost Writer as a nominee from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro 26 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I agree this year for film scores was boring ... bring back 1993! That was an awesome year for films and film music, and for me, the last great, great year for both categories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I agree this year for film scores was boring ... bring back 1993! That was an awesome year for films and film music, and for me, the last great, great year for both categories.What about 1997??? LA Confidential, TITANIC..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Yeah I look at the quality of nominated scores in the mid to late 90s - it was amazing.The noughties for me were mostly ruined by blatant linking of best picture to best score, and the academy changing their own rules from year to year. When The Two Towers is disqualified because it quotes some themes, but Babel is nominated and wins (!////%$??!!!) when entire tracks are from a previous work, these people have no business declaring the best score of the year.It's not the 'wins' that annoy me, but the fact that the masses get the impression that outstanding work is being rewarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Surprised at Alice, I haven't heard it but I thought everyone said it was Elfman on autopilot?It is.Burton's on autopilot. It's just familiar territory for Elfman. It's music Elfman does best. He still tries to be different from his other Burton/ fantasy scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 As funny as that video was I hated how lazy thay made Elfman seem at his job. This and that SW Family Guy ep. give Elfman a bad rep. That just fuels his haters and what some people think about him and his music. Elfman has a lot more range than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I used to think Elfman wasn't very varied, but then I listened to his non-Burton works and realized he can do a lot more. Milk and Mission Impossible are two examples of a very non-Burtonesque score. And even when considering the Burton scores, there's no two of them that sound the same. Yes, they all have that surreal feel to them, but within that very broad category they branch out quite a bit. Compare Big Fish to Nightmare Before Christmas to Batman to Corpse Bride to Pee-Wee. All very different.That said, I don't get the same vibe from the video. It seems like the only person being insulted is Burton - the rest of the people are annoyed at being forced to stay within his comfort zone (for the record, I don't think Burton is as unversatile as the video suggests, but it is fun to poke fun at the elements that he seems to be especially attracted to). Elfman is portrayed as bored and uninspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I've never thought of Elfman as limited in range. Didn't even know he had detractors. In fact, ever since JNH took a step towards RCP, Elfman has been exciting me more with new projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Not really.His writing is much more muscular these days. Even Alice sounds more massive than his music from Tim Burton's films of the early 90's. And there is much more to him than that. Sommersby is almost like John Barry, Standard Operating Procedure is him doing Glass (but better), Mission: Impossible is terrific, the first Batman, Spider-Man, Hulk, Wanted, Milk, Terminator Salvation. And then there things like The Kingdom or A Civil Action, which are completely different world altogether. All of them much different from his trademark fare. But, at the same time, they seem not to generate this kind of excitement. Which is a great pity...Heck, even The Wolfman sounds more like typical gothic horror (and not only Kilar's Dracula) score than Elfman gothic horror score (Sleepy Hollow).But then again general public thinks John Williams is only doing Star Wars and stuff like that. When the truth the majority of his work shows much more range and I just love to prove these people wrong by playing examples. Their face expression is priceless. Having said all that, I couldn't care less who's taking the award home. Nor do I follow Oscars anymore. Boring stuff.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 He definitely has some range. Like you said, scores like Sommersby and Mission: Impossible, but lately it's kind have been just a mess. He says he never listens to his music once he's done recording, I think that's his problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I would agree with the statement his output is not very consistent, quality-wise. But at least he's still willing to experiment.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I prefer his newer work, and generally his non-Burton work. I thought Salvation was really underrated, and Milk was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Elfman has range, it's apparent in his works.If some musically challenged idiot like me can hear it then I'm sure everyone else can.I don't know why everyone is making a big deal out of the Family Guy skit. The fact that two major composers were incorporated into a joke should be a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Well I just saw 127 Hours and the score works wonders in the film. Problem is, it's another case of lots of songs being used, so while Rahman's contribution is effective, it's not the only factor. And the most noticeable piece of music during the ending montage wasn't by him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Yes, Boyle put the songs and score to great use. But it's A.R. Rahman, two-time Academy Award winner, we can bend the rules for him and dump Michael Brook and Carter Burwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Desplat gets it. Congrats to him - I have since heard the score......think this one is more than deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Congrats to him, but it gets a giant 'meh' from me. I'm not denigrating the musical merits at all, but it's clear to me that it's won because of its association with a film that's basically driving the UK mad with popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Whilst I think you are right, there is only one other score on the Nomination list that I think would have seriously given it a run for it's money had it been a little more open.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 it's a regular Desplat score but sub standard to some of this other similar onesfor now he would have deserved to win for Benjamen Button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 "The King's Speech": just wait and see.Desplat gets it. Congrats to him - I have since heard the score......think this one is more than deserved.I hate to say "I told you so", but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 It's a brilliant score, and one of the best in the year. Definitely in the top five, although only one other of those scores was nominated. So it's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Nice 'speech' from Desplat. Kept it short and mentioned that they used microphones owned by the King himself... nice touch.And will all winners stop thanking their wives/family with immediate effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 it's a regular Desplat score but sub standard to some of this other similar onesfor now he would have deserved to win for Benjamen ButtonYup. I love that one. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Is it bad that I give one big MEH to this year's awards ceremonies and the movies up for nomination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Is it bad that I give one big MEH to this year's awards ceremonies and the movies up for nomination?Well, Quint, I knew you were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Well I watched a little bit of the ceremony with the sound off. That's how much I care about this country's 'academy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Well I watched a little bit of the ceremony with the sound off. With Jonathan Woss, that's the best way to watch it. If you want to watch it with the vision off, then that's even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I watch Academy Awards like this. It's better than Avatar this way!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 King's Speech got best pic but not best director?Whenever that happens it just highlights how bloody useless and pointless these awards ceremonies are.Ooo well we loved your movie the most, but we liked how Fincher made his movie, more. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 It's just "we want to give your movie loads of praise, but this other movie deserves something too...".Same as the technical categories being consolation prizes.My viewing of the oscars in 2 weeks (yes, I'll be one of the crazy Europeans who stays up till 4am) will have nothing to do with who actually wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 King's Speech got best pic but not best director?Whenever that happens it just highlights how bloody useless and pointless these awards ceremonies are.Ooo well we loved your movie the most, but we liked how Fincher made his movie, more. Sorry. It's just "we want to give your movie loads of praise, but this other movie deserves something too...".Same as the technical categories being consolation prizes.What constitutes "technical categories?" Are those awards like special effects, makeup, etc? If so I definitely disagree...there are some horrible films with technical elements far superior to other films that deserve praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 It's just "we want to give your movie loads of praise, but this other movie deserves something too...".Same as the technical categories being consolation prizes.My viewing of the oscars in 2 weeks (yes, I'll be one of the crazy Europeans who stays up till 4am) will have nothing to do with who actually wins.I'm not even going to watch them at all. I'll comeback when talent starts appearing at the Oscars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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