Edmilson 7,389 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 GRRM: "Game of Thrones Needed 13 Seasons to Remain Faithful to Books" https://www.indiewire.com/2019/10/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-13-seasons-faithful-1202178824/ Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I agree with GRRM. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,585 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: I agree with GRRM. Me too, for the most part. I mean, 12 seasons probably would've been enough. Hell, 10 seasons would have been a hell of a lot better than the rushed final two seasons we got, especially since they even cut the number of episodes. (WTF?) Yavar A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 8 was fine. Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Isn't this exactly the same quote that has been floating around since May? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Jesus, 13 seasons? No thanks. The kids were all too old by the end of it anyway, it’s meant to all happen over the span of a few years, not a decade and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oierem 151 Posted October 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2019 Having more (and longer) seasons would have no impact whatsoever in the faithfulness to the books. The show deviated from the books because: 1. The books are not done, therefore it is impossible to remain faithful to them (we could talk about remaining faithful to an outline at most). And that is because.... 2. Books 4 and 5 introduce too many secondary storylines and characters that distract from the main characters. That lead to a couple of books with no clear structure and no ending point (and the impossibility of Martin to wrap up the story in any coherent way in just two more books. After season 5/book 5, the show needed 3 more seasons and was criticised for being "rushed", yet there are only two more books and way more characters and storylines to wrap up). 3. The characters (and storylines) from the show had an organic development (for many reasons) that resulted in significant differences. More seasons would only increase the differences from Martin's outline. TheUlyssesian, Unlucky Bastard and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,389 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 The sad truth is... Arpy and _deleted_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Yup. Without knowing how the story would actually end and where it was going, the writers had little way of knowing early on what was filler and what wasn't, so we ended up with a lot of filler. Maybe in a decade or two when the books are complete by Martin or his estate, we'll get a definitive animated version. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 People still give a shit about this dumpster fire in all its incarnations, past and future? More interested in what Amazon will do with Wheel of Time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 15 hours ago, Edmilson said: The sad truth is... ok, but those were the 5-10 minutes that dragged every episode. The final two seasons were all drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,585 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Episode 2 of the final season was beautifully written character development and didn’t drag for me at all. After the middling Episode 1 it really got my hopes up for the last four episodes and, well... Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Season 8 was good! What's wrong with you people?? A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,389 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Well, it had great direction, great production values, the battle scenes were expertly filmed by Miguel Sapochinik, the score was not bad... It's just the writing that was horrible. In a way, it's like a pretty bad Hollywood blockbuster movie: come for the spectacle, try not to think too much about the screenwriting. 5 hours ago, Dixon Hill said: More interested in what Amazon will do with Wheel of Time now. I remember when Lost was a huge success, so TV networks thought that people were interested in serialized sci-fi with lots of intriguing misteries and enigmas. So a lot of Lost-like TV shows premiered on American TV back then, some were good (I loved Fringe), some started good and then became terrible (Heroes), and most of them were awful and got cancelled without an ending (FlashForward, the V remake, The Event, the Spielberg-produced Terra Nova). I can easily see the same happening with GOT, these streaming services will get so anxious to have their own epic fantasy series that most of them will flop - like Netflix's The Witcher, which seems a dumpster fire. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 They're still doing Lost rehashes and they're still shit. Difference is the Robert Jordan books are pretty good source material and it's a completed story that can be freely adapted. Decent chance of it surpassing GOT in quality if they do it right, if not necessarily in cultural impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 5:09 AM, Docteur Qui said: Jesus, 13 seasons? No thanks. Well, considering HBO is trying to write 5 prequel series from scratch, and they had to write the last 3 seasons of GOT from scratch (which didn’t go so great), they’ve got to be wishing they had a bit more thoroughly milked the 5,200 pages GRRM has published. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Benioff and Weiss at the Austin Film Festival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Blurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 @Jay It's satirical, right? Sounds like a joke account - I believed it until about four tweets in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 No it's sadly real https://news.avclub.com/based-on-this-benioff-and-weiss-panel-it-mustve-been-d-1839398581 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 WHAT????? C'mon, some of those responses are insane! This explains so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Aww they really struggled "giving up" ten years of their life, calling the shots on the world's biggest TV show and becoming millionaires in the process. Boo fuckin hoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 This has got to be the biggest con job in television history. If we would've known this information from the beginning, I think we would've been more understanding when it all started to break apart and fall off a cliff. The details they give sound completely scummy and incompetent - didn't want to hire other writers because of simple greediness, eschewed fantasy to appeal to other demographics, wanted shots of baby penises... what the fuck?? This is just ridiculous. It's why I thought this was the attendee's satirical take on the event... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Mothers and NFL players, lulz No wonder every idiot out there got into this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oierem 151 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I'm sure all this info that comes from a twitter account is absolutely unbiased. Sure. Besides, most of the info isn't new: they've talked about the horrible pilot (it couldn't have been so horrible since a significant part of it was still retained for the actual first episode, which I hear it was considered rather good), the first season's episodes being too short (and learning to create new scenes that weren't on the books from that experience), not having previous experience, actors influencing their characters (doesn't this happen in virtually any series?) and so forth many times before. But yeah, let's trust a random twitter user and create an article with a click-baiting headline without contrasting with any other sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,389 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Actually, their gambit worked. I can't tell about NFL players, but my mom loved the show. Every monday morning she used to talk about the latest episode with her friends from work, which are about the same age as her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 If only Star Trek could appeal to mothers and NFL players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,389 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 HBO‘s ‘Game of Thrones’ Prequel Series Starring Naomi Watts Is Dead – Report This particular “Game of Thrones” prequel series was set to take place thousands of years before the story of the HBO series. https://www.indiewire.com/2019/10/hbo-game-of-thrones-prequel-series-naomi-watts-1202185932/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,646 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Naomi Watts Is Dead I don't really care about any GoT prequels, but glancing at this out of the corner of my eye just gave me a minor conniption John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Indiewire should be shut down for placing those words together. Chen G. and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,389 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Thankfully, she is alive and well, although probably disappointed that she won't be starring on an big budget HBO show that is part of the most popular TV franchise of the decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,646 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 It frees her up for more Twin Peaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Edmilson said: Thankfully, she is alive and well, although probably disappointed that she won't be starring on an big budget HBO show that is part of the most popular TV franchise of the decade. For all we know she dodged a bullet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Edmilson said: HBO‘s ‘Game of Thrones’ Prequel Series Starring Naomi Watts Is Dead – Report This particular “Game of Thrones” prequel series was set to take place thousands of years before the story of the HBO series. https://www.indiewire.com/2019/10/hbo-game-of-thrones-prequel-series-naomi-watts-1202185932/ Why isn't @mstrox complaining about this? They should never have announced this new show and cast Naomi Watts if they're not gonna make it. HBO should start committing to ideas rather than committing to people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 It seems like they shot a whole bunch and were in post production when shit hit the fan. Test audiences and everything so they were committed @Stefancos just not enough it seems to pick up the pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The other prequel series is moving ahead though, the one about the Targaryens so that’s will be cool Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,646 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Stefancos said: Why isn't @mstrox complaining about this? They should never have announced this new show and cast Naomi Watts if they're not gonna make it. HBO should start committing to ideas rather than committing to people! Well, TV shows have no-go pilot episodes, early cancellations, etc. - so a slightly different beast. If HBO promoted the GoT prequel more aggressively than they would any other pilot, then they met it with a level of pomp that should probably be reserved for something going straight-to-series, or at least greenlit after a pilot. But really, I'm not criticizing HBO's press department over here because even though I liked GoT and thought the final season was fine, I don't have a particular interest in watching any other stories in that universe - whereas I am very interested in Star Wars! I think they should have developed a movie with the GoT guys behind the scenes, and then once they had at least a satisfactory plan, announced the movie. All of these hires-and-fires is pretty bad press. (If you want my other Star Wars opinion, they should also not commit to series/trilogies a'la Johnson and the GoT guys, and instead develop single self-contained movies in the hopes that they are good enough to continue those characters' stories) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Yes, divert all creative capacity towards making one good film, not a trilogy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,389 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Winter from these guys can fuck off. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 It'll end in a week anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,389 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 When I saw that tweet, I (along with probably a lot of people) thought that the announcement of GRRM's much delayed sixth ASOIAF book The Winds of Winter was imminent... But it's probably just a reference for the actual winter on the Northern Hemisphere The social media intern probably wanted to make a joke, but because of Martin's book the tweet became viral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Why do people hate this show so much now? I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 18 hours ago, Edmilson said: When I saw that tweet, I (along with probably a lot of people) thought that the announcement of GRRM's much delayed sixth ASOIAF book The Winds of Winter was imminent... But it's probably just a reference for the actual winter on the Northern Hemisphere The social media intern probably wanted to make a joke, but because of Martin's book the tweet became viral. I assumed it was related to the upcoming BluRay release. The show twitter account wouldn’t have anything to do with a book that is never going to be released anyway. Edmilson and mstrox 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,399 Posted December 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2019 Yavar Moradi, JWMike, A. A. Ron and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Oh come on. Season 8 was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 It's akin to making a cake and then right as you take it out of the oven, your mitten snags on the door and you drop the cake - and the ensuing, but still delicious mess is Season 8. The delicious parts, or what's edible are the things we love from the show, the characters , the acting, the nudity. The hair and toenail encrusted side is the fucking awful ending that can't ever be undone. Oh, and then you find out the mitten didn't catch on the door, but it was actually your doofus twin siblings, D&D who were running through the kitchen when they knew you were about to take the cake out. Little bastards. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Huh? What was wrong with the finale? I hear so many people complaining about it but it was fine. Docteur Qui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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