GAME OF THRONES

[Jay 37,281]

Danaerys!

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[Brónach 1,301]

Sansa.

Are we supposed to believe she jumped with Theon from that wall and survived?

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[Jay 37,281]

I suppose it's purposely ambiguous, but I also think the idea was supposed to be that the snow was deep enough to break their fall

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[KK 3,307]

Some shots clearly show the head of Lena Heady CGI's on some woman's body. I can't blame the actress for not wanting to do that scene in the nude herself.

Wrong.

She actually did the nude scene herself. It caused a bit of a stir when they were filming, because they were doing it on sacred grounds and they had to pay a handsome sum to keep it all secret.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2782295/Game-Thrones-bosses-burn-200-000-trying-Lena-Headey-s-naked-body-wraps.html

And I found the scene satisfyingly effective. It's a huge moment in the book, and any less screentime just would not have done it justice. GoT usually aces big setpieces like this and this is no exception.

I could have done without the scheming revenge moment with the undead-Mountain though.

[thx99 1,740]

Sansa.

Are we supposed to believe she jumped with Theon from that wall and survived?

I for one am hoping that they both died of broken backs and will never be heard from again! Couldn't stand either one of their characters... (there, I've said it).

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There were several shots where they obviously CGI's her face on someone's body

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It's pretty obvious that they didnt use her body for the full nude shots.

[KK 3,307]

I don't quite recall noticing anything like that. But even so, I'm pretty sure Headey got nude for the scene.

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[KK 3,307]

Dany is the true Azor Ahai reborn! Screw Jon!

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I don't quite recall noticing anything like that. But even so, I'm pretty sure Headey got nude for the scene.

Headey doesnt have breasts that big. And thats the end of it as far as I'm concerned

[KK 3,307]

Fair enough. I wasn't bothered by it really. And certainly don't find anything sexed up about the scene. I think it was one of the show's finer moments.

[Jay 37,281]

Game of Thrones: Is This Really the Last We’ll See of Jon Snow?

Interesting article, which starts off quite similar to the article LeBlanc posted on the previous page about the various theories regarding how Jon could come back, but then it goes into detail about some stuff that wasn't mentioned in LeBlanc's article (from "What Do You Mean She Needs a New Messiah?" onward).

Wow, really cool article! Lot's of VERY interesting theories in there!

This whole rebirth of Azor Ahai stuff is actually really neat and I hope the show talks about it more! Actually, I suppose this could be the kind of thing Sam will go discover while studying to be a maester?

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Fair enough. I wasn't bothered by it really. And certainly don't find anything sexed up about the scene. I think it was one of the show's finer moments.

I found it one of the show's lowest points. Gratuitous, excessive and far too long.

[Jay 37,281]

- Meereen: quite liked the scene between all of Dany-O's followers (though the Missandei/Grey Worm relationship is downright cheesy). We finally got some fine dialogue between Tyrion and Jorah (took them long enough, but they got there!), as well as between Daario and Tyrion. It seems we'll still be stuck in Meeren for some time in Season 6 too, though. As for Dany-O: cool scene with the arrival of the Dothraki (neat visuals too). As for the ring stuff: I think it's it could be the one offered by Hizdahr zo Loraq (since she married him recently). Though it would make sense if it was Drogo, too.

Did she actually marry that guy, though? Or were they just engaged to be married? I mean, there was no ceremony or anything, right?

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We never saw a ceremony, so I assumed not

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[KK 3,307]

I thought the duels in the arena were to celebrate the wedding?

Yup.

[Jay 37,281]

I thought it was just the day they were officially re-opening the biggest fighting pit. I didn't catch any reference to it being attached to their wedding. I assumed the wedding was in the future for them.

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Yeah, I cant imagine why they wouldn't have a ceremony in the episode.

Anyway, now that the character is dead, what was the whole point of Deanerys engaging herself to him? Just seems like another storyline that ultimately doesn't go anywhere.

[Jay 37,281]

She explained to him why she would marry him when she proposed in his jail cell. It would unite Mireen and enforce her role as Queen if she married the head of a prominent family in the city

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I know. But it doesnt go anywhere. The died was killed off Dany flew away and is apparently off on a new adventure.

So what was the point of all that?

[Jay 37,281]

The point was to show the path Dany was planning on taking before the Sons of the Harpy changed it all on her

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I know, but all of its isnt gonna happen. So it was just a bunch of dead air.

It reminds me of the previous season where Roose Bolton sends one of his men (the one that cut off Jaime's hand) to Castle Black to spy on Jon Snow. That's a potentially interesting storylines. But the guy gets killed as Crasters Keep an episode or two later so absolutely nothing is done with thats toryline. It's completely useless.

It's that kind of writing that will make sure GOT will never become true Golden Age TV.

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[Brónach 1,301]

Two seasons of Dany's storyline could have been told in one. She could have met Tyrion later in her next "phase".

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The Leblanc doesn't seem to mind anything on this show.

[Quintus 5,399]

I was quietly stunned when the knife went in, just a few minutes ago. A good way to end the season. At the moment I don't know what to think about it all, but I'm sad if Jon (and Harrington) is really gone for good, just as he'd gotten interesting again.

The humiliating scene with Cersei, while dramatic, was completely OTT and ultimately just narratively unwarranted. The whole Sparrows subplot was incompetently handled and should have been binned. The writers would have better served the Cersei character if they had instead invented their own moment of humiliation for her based on something already well established in our minds, the moment being all the more convincing for it. What we have is a low point in the making of this adaptation.

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You can write all the important parts of Dany's storyline of two seasons in a sheet of paper or less, and that has taken, what, 20 hours of running time? There's a reason why this mesh of storylines feel painfully written.

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[Jay 37,281]

Good article!

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[Jay 37,281]

A Body Double Was Used For Cersei’s Naked ‘Walk Of Shame’

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The disgruntled should join me... it's bliss.

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[Jay 37,281]

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[Dixon Hill 4,232]

In Jon, Dany, Jorah, Jaime, Daario, Tyrion, and Varys, you've got a quality core group for an eventual endgame king/queen, generals, advisors, etc., setup.

Sansa becomes Warden of the North with Brienne and Pod sticking around to help her. Maybe the youngest Starks too. Not sure what their ultimate place would be otherwise if they live.

[Jay 37,281]

Are we predicting the wall be be destroyed by the end of Season 6?

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Take that, KK!

It was blindingly obvious

The humiliating scene with Cersei, while dramatic, was completely OTT and ultimately just narratively unwarranted. The whole Sparrows subplot was incompetently handled and should have been binned. The writers would have better served the Cersei character if they had instead invented their own moment of humiliation for her based on something already well established in our minds, the moment being all the more convincing for it. What we have is a low point in the making of this adaptation.

One of the issues I have with it is that it really isnt clean what the intention of the producers/writers/director was with that scene?

Is it supposed to convey "serves you right, bitch"?

If so, then it really doesnt work because I didnt feel that at all, which is odd considering Cersei really has been an awful bitch throughout the entire show.

Are we supposed to get a new found symptathy for her because of the humilaition she suffered? Maybe. But I really didnt feel that they were going for that.

It felt like cheap explotaition of the worst kind. It's a scene that could have worked if done with just a little more restraint and artistry. It just seemed like endless torture porn and reminded me too much of The Passion Of The Christ.

Sometimes less is more.

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Didn't have that impression. Martin is fascinated with Medieval history and culture, obviously, and he probably wanted to convey some of its weirdest aspects. From that perspective, it was quite mild. I thought it was well done.

Karol

[KK 3,307]

Didn't have that impression. Martin is fascinated with Medieval history and culture, obviously, and he probably wanted to convey some of its weirdest aspects. From that perspective, it was quite mild. I thought it was well done.

Karol

Indeed. It was partially inspired by the story of Jane Shore, who was one of King Edward IV's mistresses and forced to a walk of shame across the city for her penance. It was a pretty common punishment for adultery in those times. And in that sense, Cersei's punishment didn't seem out of place at all. It's a powerful moment in what is largely a weak novel (A Feast for Crows) and it was executed very well on screen.

Take that, KK!

Fair enough. I still stand by the fact that it's not that obvious or distracting on screen.