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Indiana Jones 5 (James Mangold, July 29 2022)


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6 hours ago, bruce marshall said:

Ya know, there's always the possibility that the story is told in flashback with a young actor playing INDY for the majority of the film.

Maybe that guy from SOLO.?

 

 

 

NAH!!!!#

 

 

Maybe the old Indy, played by Ford, will be narrating the story of the movie, and then young Indy (which can be either a lookalike actor or a deepfake) will appear in the flashbacks? It'd be like the 2013 Lone Ranger, for instance.

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23 hours ago, crumbs said:

Mangold is a quality director. I have no concerns about this film under his stewardship, personally.

 

All this whining about Indy's age, yet it was the least of KOCS's problems.

 

At the same time, that was 13 years ago. Ford wasn't touching 80 at that time 🤷‍♂️

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I guess it depends how they plan to address it then. I don't really have an issue if his role focuses mainly on the Professor/Teacher stuff (it was always fun seeing that side of Indy in the earlier films).

 

He can always ride a horse or drive a car/plane/whatever in the action sequences. I'm more concerned about whether they'll return to the series' roots and ditch the bad CGI, the over-reliance on soundstages, lack of overseas/exotic locations, poorly structured plotting, non-existent cast chemistry, cringe-worthy attempts at humour, non-Biblical non-religious artifacts, etc.

 

I'll be gutted if they repeat the mistakes of KOCS and film the whole thing at Pinewood or around the UK, but I'm afraid COVID might have forced their hand. Tunisia, Sri Lanka, Jordan, Italy, the series was always at its best when it relied on practical locations.

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They can always shoot in Australia or New Zealand, since the pandemic is already under control on these countries. I believe some locations at Southeast Asia are Covid-free areas as well.

 

So yeah, there's a lot of options of exotic locations for them to use.

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36 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

They can always shoot in Australia or New Zealand, since the pandemic is already under control on these countries. I believe some locations at Southeast Asia are Covid-free areas as well.

 

So yeah, there's a lot of options of exotic locations for them to use.

 

Half of Hollywood is in Australia shooting movies right now, so the secret's definitely out. 

 

Would love to see a teaser in NZ or Australia, plenty of amazing locations they could visit (and perfectly COVID-safe to film large crowds with lots of extras). As if a teaser with Indy in the Australian Outback doesn't write itself: snakes, kangaroos, crocodiles, it's perfect! 

 

Or some temples throughout SE Asia, that would work great. Cambodia springs to mind (although not sure how the timeframe with the Vietnam War might create story issues, unless that actually figures into the plot). 

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Every Indy teaser revolves around a fictional artifact (I guess the ashes in TOD are inspired by actual history), I'm sure they could come up with something neat.

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17 hours ago, crumbs said:

He can always ride a horse or drive a car/plane/whatever in the action sequences. I'm more concerned about whether they'll return to the series' roots and ditch the bad CGI, the over-reliance on soundstages, lack of overseas/exotic locations, poorly structured plotting, non-existent cast chemistry, cringe-worthy attempts at humour, non-Biblical non-religious artifacts, etc.

 

 

Just going ALL practical with nary a digital shot in sight would go a LONG way towards restoring authenticity to the Indiana Jones cinematic experience. Heck, I even think slightly hokey fx could help turn a fairly bad script into schlocky fun one. 

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I hope to see something about the music :) https://arte-magazine.arte.tv/press-kit/1821

 

Lame Google translate below:

 

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A never-before-seen documentary on the occasion of the archaeologist’s 40th birthday imagined by Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.

 

Nourished by interviews with the main stakeholders, as well as tasty archives, with a clownish Harrison Ford between two takes, this documentary tells, forty years after the release of the first part, the formidable trajectory of a sexy archaeologist (and a bit macho ), which brought the adventure film back into fashion to the point of becoming a benchmark. He draws a complete portrait of the hero and his many borrowings: the arrogance of Charlton Heston, the cynicism of Bogart, the righteousness of Stewart Granger, the stunts of Jean-Paul Belmondo. Traits which, combined with an endearing blundering temperament, have made him a universal hero.
 

May 1977. Steven Spielberg joins George Lucas in Hawaii, fleeing the pressure of releasing Star Wars. With the box office reassuring them, the two friends set out to find a topic for Spielberg. He dreams of a James Bond. Lucas proposes to produce it and submits to him Indiana Jones: the story of an adventurer of the 1930s, like the serials, thrilling soap operas and low budget neighborhood cinemas, obsolete but dear to the hearts of these great kids. moviegoers. Philip Kaufman, one of the co-screenwriters and future director of The Cloth of Heroes, epically enriches the script with the idea of a quest for the Ark of the Covenant. But the studios don't believe it. In addition, Spielberg drags a reputation of spendthrift filmmaker and little respect for deadlines. Lucas vouches and even reluctantly agrees to "loan" Star Wars star Harrison Ford. Under his friendly influence, Spielberg will revise his way of filming and will never exceed neither budget nor schedule. With this wise management, Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, an entertainment gem released in 1981, would become one of the highest grossing films in cinema history. Both inventive and in tune with the tastes of the public, the Spielberg / Lucas tandem developed a frenzied action mechanic that would later be called an "amusement park cinema". With its recognizable allure - whip, hat and three-day beard - Indiana Jones brings cinema into the era of franchises and merchandising, generating video games, series, figurines or comics.

 

Documentary by Clélia Cohen and Antoine Coursat
Based on an idea by Romain Pieri
Co-production ARTE France, My drug to me (2021- 52min)

 

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9 hours ago, crumbs said:

That would be a fun dynamic. Certainly more interesting than yet another blood relation. Have a skeptical former student who doesn't believe his outrageous stories, then they end up on an adventure together where eventually she becomes a convert. 

I can see it... and therefore she will continue as "Dorianna Smith (homage to indy's original surname)".

That way the franchise continues with a modern standard female lead... and Indiana will always have been harrison ford...

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Outside of the age of Harrison Ford, (which I'm not completely worried about) is anyone else's major concern for this movie is that Disney is behind it?

 

Do they let Mangold have free range or does The Mouse step on too many toes for this one?

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Hard to say.  It seems like they were very attentive to everything going on with their 5 theatrical Star Wars movies for sure, but will they treat IJ the same way?

Remains to be seen I guess

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33 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

Do they let Mangold have free range or does The Mouse step on too many toes for this one?

 

Isn't Mangold established enough to have final cut?

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You're on a different planet if you think Disney won't shove their agendas into this like they did with Star Wars. 

 

We live in a time of intentional redefinition of culture. 

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2 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Outside of the age of Harrison Ford, (which I'm not completely worried about) is anyone else's major concern for this movie is that Disney is behind it?

 

Do they let Mangold have free range or does The Mouse step on too many toes for this one?


Wasn't the common (legitimate) complaint of the sequel trilogy that there wasn't enough interference? As in the people in charge simply didn't do enough to ensure a cohesive vision, thus leading to the messy overall final result? Admittedly, TRoS largely came about from Bob Iger insisting it come out by the end of his intended tenure, but that's about as far as I heard.

Given that this will be a singular film, and it isn't JJ at the helm, I don't know what much the Mouse could do outside of pushing even stricter deadlines.

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3 hours ago, gkgyver said:

You're on a different planet if you think Disney won't shove their agendas into this like they did with Star Wars. 

 

 

Yeah, I would hate for there to be a strong female character in this movie. 

 

🙄🙄🙄

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Is there anyway to prevent Mgyver comments from appearing in.the quote box?

'Ignore' only blocks his initial wretched ravings.😒

1 hour ago, The Big Man said:

Will she be Ripley strong female or Rey strong female?

Neither.

Jessica Walter strong female ( PLAY MISTY...)😝

1 hour ago, Demodex said:

 

 

Yeah, I would hate for there to be a strong female character in this movie. 

 

🙄🙄🙄

That's better!😄

3 hours ago, The Big Man said:

Will this flick have any babes in it?

Didn't you hear?

This is going to be like CASINO ROYALE; a ' reimagining' of the character for modern audiences.

Rated ' R'

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4 hours ago, HunterTech said:

Wasn't the common (legitimate) complaint of the sequel trilogy that there wasn't enough interference? As in the people in charge simply didn't do enough to ensure a cohesive vision, thus leading to the messy overall final result? Admittedly, TRoS largely came about from Bob Iger insisting it come out by the end of his intended tenure, but that's about as far as I heard.

 

Exactly -- no matter your opinion of the Star Wars sequels, studio interference isn't to blame.

 

Yeah, Rogue One and Solo clearly had production interference (and Trev was dropped from IX) but Johnson has repeatedly said he was given free reign with TLJ, and Abrams wouldn't have signed on for TFA or TROS without final cut. I don't buy the excuse that TROS is a mess because Disney hacked it up; that film is just a result of Abrams not having enough time to make a cohesive movie (his own fault for signing on if he didn't think the timeframe was sufficient).

 

As for IJ5, I assume it'll be similar to the non-Spielberg JP sequels at Universal. As EP, Spielberg gets final cut then defers it to his directors (Trevorrow/Bayona). I can't imagine any scenario where Disney would dare interfere with Spielberg on Indiana Jones, especially with Kennedy running Lucasfilm.

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7 hours ago, The Big Man said:

Will this flick have any babes in it?

 

Not that I class her as your usual generic stunner, but I found that the more I watched Waller-Bridge (in Fleabag), the cuter she got. By the end I thought she was fit AF. Certainly a "weird fancy" for me. 

 

I would be massively surprised if she was ever your type though, even stranded on a desert island. 

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7 hours ago, HunterTech said:

Wasn't the common (legitimate) complaint of the sequel trilogy that there wasn't enough interference? As in the people in charge simply didn't do enough to ensure a cohesive vision, thus leading to the messy overall final result?

 

If it is, then its a stupid critique.

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1 hour ago, DarthDementous said:

Okay, can I get a helpful answer now please 

Me thinks you forget which forum you’re at. You take your fancy boy questions to FSM.

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8 hours ago, bruce marshall said:

Is there anyway to prevent Mgyver comments from appearing in.the quote box?

'Ignore' only blocks his initial wretched ravings.😒

 

Negative

 

7 hours ago, DarthDementous said:

Who is attached to write this movie? I've tried to google and I could swear there was a post from Mangold someone linked in this very thread but I can't find it.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Quintus said:

 

Not that I class her as your usual generic stunner, but I found that the more I watched Waller-Bridge (in Fleabag), the cuter she got. By the end I thought she was fit AF. Certainly a "weird fancy" for me. 

 

I would be massively surprised if she was ever your type though, even stranded on a desert island. 

 

Oh she's certainly not unrootable. Sheesh I'm not that much a fusspot

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