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Indiana Jones 5 (James Mangold, July 29 2022)


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3 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

Connery was willing to play much older at the time

 

Connery had been playing (or had considered/was asked to play) older than his years more than once.

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32 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

He's already older than Williams was when he scored Crystal Skull.

 

Is he actually? God that's depressing if so. 

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But is he older than Ian McKellen when he played Gandalf? I mean, Gandalf has a few action/physical scenes in the trilogy.

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Gandalf is a wizard though.  We expect him to be old and to be able to fight a Balrog.

 

Can you imagine a 60+ year old (the character not Ford) cutting a rope bridge and fighting Mola Ram?

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16 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

But is he older than Ian McKellen when he played Gandalf? I mean, Gandalf has a few action/physical scenes in the trilogy.

 

Harrison Ford is only 3 years younger than McKellen

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Ian McKellen was 60, then 61 when LOTR was filmed from October 99 to December 2000

 

Harrison Ford was 64, then 65 when Indiana Jones 4 was filmed in the summer of 2007 (though he was playing a 58 year old Indy)

 

Ian McKellen was 72, then 73, then 74 as The Hobbit was filmed from March 2011 to July 2012

 

John Williams was 76 when the score to Crystal Skull was recorded in 2008. 

 

Harrison Ford will be 78 and turn 79 while filming Indiana Jones 5 this summer

 

John Williams will be 90 when Indiana Jones 5's score is recorded in 2022.

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

Harrison Ford is only 3 years younger than McKellen

 

That is actually a real mindfuck

 

I know you are a Blank Check listener, it's like how Griffin always mentions Paul Giamatti and Vin Diesel are the same age.

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As someone who has been listening since before they were called Blank Check, when it was a Star Wars podcast, I’m only happy about how crazy popular their show has gotten

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4 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

He's already older than Williams was when he scored Crystal Skull.

 

"What are you, like, 80?"
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4 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Ford looked good/capable in Blade Runner 2049

 

But damn that would still be 5 years from then.

 

I keep doing the same thing! I'll think of Ford's "recent" performances in TFA and BR2049 as justification for how he could still pull off Indy V and forget that those films have been out for years now. :unsure:

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I just can't wrap my head around a character who will most likely be over the age of 60 (again, Indy...not Ford----Indy's 58 in KOTCS) and then Ford who WILL be 80 next July doing the action segments that made the original 3 so good.

 

I just can't wrap my head around it.  Does Indy really take a backseat for most of the action in this film to make it believable?!

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7 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

I just can't wrap my head around it.  Does Indy really take a backseat for most of the action in this film to make it believable?!

 

Unless the filmmakers are looking to kill him (Ford or Indy), sadly yes. 

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Does anyone have any examples of a character that's at least of the age 60, and the ACTOR is nearly 80 doing believable action scenes (without digital de-aging) where the audience believes it?

 

I'm honestly curious.

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6 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Does anyone have any examples of a character that's at least of the age 60, and the ACTOR is nearly 80 doing believable action scenes (without digital de-aging) where the audience believes it?

 

I'm honestly curious.

Arnold Schwarzenegger?

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8 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Does anyone have any examples of a character that's at least of the age 60, and the ACTOR is nearly 80 doing believable action scenes (without digital de-aging) where the audience believes it?

 

I'm honestly curious.

I'd say McKellen's and Lee's fight in Fellowship of the Ring was masterfully done. But of course part of the power of that scene comes from how rare it is to watch very, very old guys fighting.

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8 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Does anyone have any examples of a character that's at least of the age 60, and the ACTOR is nearly 80 doing believable action scenes (without digital de-aging) where the audience believes it?

 

I'm honestly curious.

 

Ever heard of stunt doubles?

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Well, he Vic Armstrong did the bulk of TOD stunt scenes so it wouldn't be anythong new really. 

 

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11 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Does anyone have any examples of a character that's at least of the age 60, and the ACTOR is nearly 80 doing believable action scenes (without digital de-aging) where the audience believes it?

 

I'm honestly curious.

 

Connery in The League of Extraordinary Gentleman was in his mid 70s playing a character at least that old.  No one questioned Connery or the action in the movie (there's plenty else there to be upset about but Connery was never questioned).

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7 hours ago, DarthDementous said:

Arnold Schwarzenegger?

 

Didn't they digital de-age him though?  Arnold might be an outlier though, he's jacked even at the ripe ole age of 73.

 

5 hours ago, Once said:

I'd say McKellen's and Lee's fight in Fellowship of the Ring was masterfully done. But of course part of the power of that scene comes from how rare it is to watch very, very old guys fighting.

 

I should have clarified I meant more of the character NOT the actor. Both wizards/maiar, we can suspend our disbelief.  Also we expect them to look old.  The character of Indy has always been grounded in reality, while the circumstances are not.

 

5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Ever heard of stunt doubles?

 

The character not the actor.  shit they shot most of the action in the actual Temple of Doom while Ford was healing from a herniated disc.

 

2 hours ago, Goldfinger said:

Connery in The League of Extraordinary Gentleman was in his mid 70s playing a character at least that old.  No one questioned Connery or the action in the movie (there's plenty else there to be upset about but Connery was never questioned).

 

This might be a decent example.  No digital de-aging?  Also, I'm not too familiar with The League of Extraordinary Gentleman...are they comic book characters with super abilities?  If so, that kinda isn't what I meant.

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What was Connery's super ability? Being able to walk upright and remember where he last saw his keys?

 

14 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Does anyone have any examples of a character that's at least of the age 60, and the ACTOR is nearly 80 doing believable action scenes (without digital de-aging) where the audience believes it?

 

I'm honestly curious.

 

Bruce Willis in the later Die Hards?

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I’ll reserve all judgment until I see the movie - I had “age fears” for KOTCS at the time and it ended up not being an issue for me.  I suspect that with a combination of script concessions, stunt work, and the same suspension of disbelief  that you have to pack for any movie like this, it’ll be fine.  
 

I do strongly believe that they should hire an even older guy to be Ford’s stunt double, though.

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1 minute ago, mstrox said:

I’ll reserve all judgment until I see the movie - I had “age fears” for KOTCS at the time and it ended up not being an issue for me.  I suspect that with a combination of script concessions, stunt work, and the same suspension of disbelief  that you have to pack for any movie like this, it’ll be fine.  

 

They were wise to make an awful script to distract from Indy's age.

 

2 minutes ago, mstrox said:

I do strongly believe that they should hire an even older guy to be Ford’s stunt double, though.

 

Connery is ripe for the role.

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There was nothing wise about Indy IV. 

 

Connery is a little past ripe, depending on the quality of his casket. 

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7 minutes ago, If You See Kay Off said:

Connery is a little past ripe, depending on the quality of his casket. 

 

He'd turn in exactly the lackluster performance to match the movie.

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18 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Bruce Willis in the later Die Hards?

 

good example.

 

but would it have worked if Willis was 80 in that Die Hard movie, like how it will be in this?

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17 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Does anyone have any examples of a character that's at least of the age 60, and the ACTOR is nearly 80 doing believable action scenes (without digital de-aging) where the audience believes it?

 

I'm honestly curious.

 

Danny Trejo is 76 doing action movies, I haven't seen them so don't know how believable he is lately. This was him at close to 70.

 

 

Obviously this stretches the definition of "believable" :lol: but he is one hard motherfucker for sure.

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Didn’t Christopher Lee do at least the upper body fighting in the prequels?

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Jaguar, Ringo, Dylan, McCartney still
 tour.

Just sayin'

What about the old guy in BETTER CALL SAUL.

He kicks much.butt in that.show( and gets beat.up.also)?

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20 hours ago, Bellosh said:

This might be a decent example.  No digital de-aging?  Also, I'm not too familiar with The League of Extraordinary Gentleman...are they comic book characters with super abilities?  If so, that kinda isn't what I meant.

 

Nah, he was just playing Alan Quartermaine.  Yes, he was surrounded by supernatural characters but he was just an old guy adventurer, the same as Indy.

 

I think people overestimate what people are willing to suspend their disbelief for. Yes, Ford is nearly 80 but the most popular films currently include talking trees, purple Spacemen bent on world destruction, and people with other superhuman powers.  If the script is good and the film is well done, people won't pick on Ford for his age.  If the film is crap like Crystal Skull was, well, then we'll get the same type of response.

 

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16 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

 

Danny Trejo is 76 doing action movies, I haven't seen them so don't know how believable he is lately. This was him at close to 70.

 

 

Obviously this stretches the definition of "believable" :lol: but he is one hard motherfucker for sure.


 

Machete looked Father Time in the face and said “Machete don’t age!”

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38 minutes ago, Goldfinger said:

 

Nah, he was just playing Alan Quartermaine.  Yes, he was surrounded by supernatural characters but he was just an old guy adventurer, the same as Indy.

 

I think people overestimate what people are willing to suspend their disbelief for. Yes, Ford is nearly 80 but the most popular films currently include talking trees, purple Spacemen bent on world destruction, and people with other superhuman powers.  If the script is good and the film is well done, people won't pick on Ford for his age.  If the film is crap like Crystal Skull was, well, then we'll get the same type of response.

 

 

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Mads Mikkelsen:

 

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“I’m very, very excited about it,” he replied. “I rewatched Raiders of the Lost Ark the other day, it is so well-done and so charming, and it’s such great storytelling. So yes, it’s a great honor to be part of that franchise that I grew up with…I’m in a lucky position where they let me read the script before. And yes, it was everything I wished it to be, so that was just great.”

 

https://www.slashfilm.com/indiana-jones-5-script-mads-mikkelsen/

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I'm not sure what else he could say.

 

After what happened to Shia LeBoeuf, I doubt anyone associated with Indy will ever utter any word about this franchise unless its effusive praise ever again.

 

Don't cross the Baseball Cap.

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On 5/4/2021 at 7:31 AM, Disco Stu said:

As someone who has been listening since before they were called Blank Check, when it was a Star Wars podcast, I’m only happy about how crazy popular their show has gotten

I just jumped on their Patreon! Love those guys

 

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On 5/4/2021 at 12:33 PM, Bellosh said:

 

good example.

 

but would it have worked if Willis was 80 in that Die Hard movie, like how it will be in this?

That would never work--he'll surely be bald by then.

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