TolkienSS 407 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bespin said: It's this? Indy talks about "magic" in the trailer... after the Ark of the Covenant, the Sankara stones, the Holy Grail and the Aliens with big crystal skulls... a Dial to change the destiny... Harry Potter, where are you? I assume the similarity to the Antikythera mechanism is not a coincidence? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 48 minutes ago, Bespin said: An archeologist work: - "We found a CD-ROM Sir" - "A What?" Yavar Moradi, Ricard, Bespin and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I just hope the MacGuffin isn't arbitrary. It's no coincidence that in the two most beloved Indy films the MacGuffin is also integral to the movie thematically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Again, it won't be a catholic MacGuffin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 9 hours ago, Bespin said: Again, it won't be a catholic MacGuffin! That doesn't mean it can't be integral to the movie thematically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I understand your disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 743 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I just hope the MacGuffin isn't arbitrary. It's no coincidence that in the two most beloved Indy films the MacGuffin is also integral to the movie thematically. Were the Sankara Stones arbitrary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I think they are. But then I'd struggle to come up with much in the way of overarching universal themes for that movie for the stones to be integral to reinforcing. It's a fun adventure movie, don't get me wrong. ThePenitentMan1 and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Penna 3,684 Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 As a fun experiment I spent about half an hour to see what would happen if Indy's Very First Adventure had scored this. Please forgive the slightly rough edits https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w59JuR6jbeGw8OPkgqYYgNaQRxK2fySE/view (not sure how to embed, if even possible, sorry) Gurkensalat, Once, BrotherSound and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,826 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Why this looks worse than Crystal skull to me? Too much CGI I think. Anyway, if it wasn't for the John Williams score I wouldn't have any interest in seeing it. I don't like seeing aged heroes from films I loved in my childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Thor said: Dials are nothing new in the Indiana Jones universe. Anyone who's played THE FATE OF ATLANTIS know what they're all about. Indeed! 10 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: As a fun experiment I spent about half an hour to see what would happen if Indy's Very First Adventure had scored this. Please forgive the slightly rough edits https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w59JuR6jbeGw8OPkgqYYgNaQRxK2fySE/view (not sure how to embed, if even possible, sorry) Fantastic work on this! Exactly what I was thinking Last Crusade’s score has this joyous globe trotting feel about it (more than any other Indy score) that really cuts to the heart of Indiana Jones. We’ll spotted with great synced moments! Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van_Etten 111 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Why this looks worse than Crystal skull to me? Too much CGI I think. Anyway, if it wasn't for the John Williams score I wouldn't have any interest in seeing it. I don't like seeing aged heroes from films I loved in my childhood. Another factor I think this is the first Indiana shot digitally, with 4.5K Arri Alexa. And color grading looks weirdly "modern". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, toothless said: That's the official French title: Nice homage to Spielberg with "et" crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,711 Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 Nothing to see here. Just Indiana Jones piloting the Falcon. Brando, Bayesian, Gabriel Bezerra and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,480 Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 Navigating into "destiny", trying to fly casual! Nick1Ø66, Brando and Gabriel Bezerra 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 300 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: The German title, "Der Ruf des Schicksals", translates "dial" as "call", so the German translator probably only associated it with telephones… Same here in Brasil, The Call of Destiny, basically. Destiny calling Indy. Though something could be lost in translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, WampaRat said: Indeed! Thanks, Wamparat! I was just about to post an image from FATE OF ATLANTIS myself, since nobody gave any reaction whatsoever to my reference to that game's moon- and sundial elements. These young whippersnappers! Docteur Qui and WampaRat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, Thor said: Thanks, Wamparat! I was just about to post an image from FATE OF ATLANTIS myself, since nobody gave any reaction whatsoever to my reference to that game's moon- and sundial elements. These young whippersnappers! Man. I was never a gamer. But as a big Indy fan I would spend HOURS on that game. After watching some full walkthroughs of it online I realized I never made it that far. Only got to the hot air balloon over the desert 😄 Brando and Thor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, WampaRat said: Man. I was never a gamer. But as a big Indy fan I would spend HOURS on that game. After watching some full walkthroughs of it online I realized I never made it that far. Only got to the hot air balloon over the desert 😄 In the 90s, I was a big gamer. I played FATE OF ATLANTIS three times, I think -- along with any and all Lucasarts and Sierra point-and-click adventures. I had somehow hoped that more people would remember the sundial thing, but I think my age comes into play again (I know that Jay always "hates it" when I say I'm older than most everyone else in this place, because he's almost my age, but it more often than not comes into play). WampaRat and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 OK. Brando and Smeltington 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 There are several people who post regularly that are 5-15 years older than you Thor, but yes I'd say the majority of current regulars are in their 20s and 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Ahem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: There are several people who post regularly that are 5-15 years older than you Thor, Yeah, I cling on to them like moths to a light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Move into the light. There is peace and serenity, in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,651 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Thor said: Yeah, I cling on to them like moths to a light. reminds me of a Norm joke: mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaaackified 81 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Gabriel Bezerra said: Same here in Brasil, The Call of Destiny, basically. Destiny calling Indy. Though something could be lost in translation. The name in Hong Kong roughly translated to The Clock of Destiny Gabriel Bezerra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Damien F said: I'm a little concerned Indy will die at the end of this. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing childhood heros dying in newer movies but it definitely has been a trend since about TFA. Not possible, since The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles are canon and an even older Indiana Jones in his 90s is present. What would be brilliant though is if Indy as played by Harrison Ford loses an eye in this. Yavar Bellosh and IheartMelissaBenoist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smeltington 1,440 Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: OK. He comes back to us now, at the turn of the tide. mstrox, Jurassic Shark and Brando 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartMelissaBenoist 34 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Not possible, since The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles are canon and an even older Indiana Jones in his 90s is present. What would be brilliant though is if Indy as played by Harrison Ford loses an eye in this. Yavar Yay, George Hall! Sucks he wasn't anywhere on the Young Indy DVDs. Well at least we still have "Remember WENN" streaming now, he was even better in RW. And the older Harrison gets, the more he does look like Old Indy. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 7 hours ago, crocodile said: This looks a bit like that cipher disc from Uncharted 3 game. Karol You beat me to it! I hope this movie isn't as much of a disaster as that game was. I want it to be an Uncharted 2 or 4 and not an Uncharted 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Uncharted, Schmuntarted. Look at our INDIANA JONES AND THE FATE OF ATLANTIS refence, young ones. Brando and WampaRat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I really liked Uncharted 3... The only game of the franchise I wasn't a fan of is the 1st one. Just like Mass Effect, the first game of the series was the one that aged more poorly. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I definitely wouldn't call Uncharted 3 a disaster. It's a slight step down from 2, slightly running out of steam towards the end, but still really enjoyable. And yes, I also think the first one is the weakest. It has all the ingredients but the greatness isn't there yet. Karol Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 300 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Not possible, since The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles are canon and an even older Indiana Jones in his 90s is present. What would be brilliant though is if Indy as played by Harrison Ford loses an eye in this. Yavar Sadly, I believe these aren't really canon anymore. If I recall, everything exclusively in the "Adventures of Young Indiana Jones" rerelease is canon. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Uncharted 3 was fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, crocodile said: I definitely wouldn't call Uncharted 3 a disaster. It's a slight step down from 2, slightly running out of steam towards the end, but still really enjoyable. And yes, I also think the first one is the weakest. It has all the ingredients but the greatness isn't there yet. I loved UC3. The first one may be the weakest, but I think that also comes with the chronology. They were mostly very successful in improving the gameplay and narrative formulas with every new game, so naturally the first one isn't as good as those that built on it. The only thing that really bothers me in UC1 is that it's way too easy to jump into nothing during the climbing sequences, because the directional hints were not really perfected yet. Also, UC3 has the best score in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 43 minutes ago, Gabriel Bezerra said: Sadly, I believe these aren't really canon anymore. If I recall, everything exclusively in the "Adventures of Young Indiana Jones" rerelease is canon. Whoever declared that? The filming of Young Indy was overseen by George Lucas himself, and I don’t believe he (or Disney later) ever declared the framing stories as “non-canon”, even if they opted to go with the edited-down-for-VHS-home-video versions, for pacing or whatever. It’s like like George Lucas ever rethought Indy surviving into old age…. As far as I’ve heard? Yavar Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Didn't Disney suddenly decide a bunch of Star Wars books, games and other stories were no longer cannon? Why would they respect Indiana Jones any more than that? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Thor said: (I know that Jay always "hates it" when I say I'm older than most everyone else in this place, because he's almost my age, but it more often than not comes into play). What? I have no idea what you're talking about here. Why do you think I think this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2022 Edmilson, LSH, Yavar Moradi and 7 others 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gabriel Bezerra 300 Posted December 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2022 Indy 5 Trailer.mp4 Here's my go at it, couldn't isolate properly, but it is what it is. 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: Whoever declared that? The filming of Young Indy was overseen by George Lucas himself, and I don’t believe he (or Disney later) ever declared the framing stories as “non-canon”, even if they opted to go with the edited-down-for-VHS-home-video versions, for pacing or whatever. It’s like like George Lucas ever rethought Indy surviving into old age…. As far as I’ve heard? Yavar I don't think he rethought it, I think he just got rid of possibly chaining himself to a destination. Old Indy had a daughter instead of Mutt, and the VHS had new dates for events, I can't provide a statement, but those were made to be the canon version of the episodes, and the lack of Old Indy is alarming. Lucas is very much the retcon king, but it's not him writing anymore, so Mangold can at least put Indy in that direction. Tom, Cerebral Cortex, Docteur Qui and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, Anthony said: Didn't Disney suddenly decide a bunch of Star Wars books, games and other stories were no longer cannon? Why would they respect Indiana Jones any more than that? uh… because just like with Star Trek, most of the books, games, and other side stories were never canon to begin with? They maintained continuity within themselves to a degree, but long before Disney came into the picture George Lucas himself contradicted a lot of them with the Prequel trilogy and the Clone Wars! Filmed stuff is different and clearly on a more concrete level — and it’s always been that way. Yavar Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Urgh. Indy on the horse looks like CG trash. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: uh… because just like with Star Trek, most of the books, games, and other side stories were never canon to begin with? They maintained continuity within themselves to a degree, but long before Disney came into the picture George Lucas himself contradicted a lot of them with the Prequel trilogy and the Clone Wars! Filmed stuff is different and clearly on a more concrete level — and it’s always been that way. Yavar On paper yeah, in practise though there was a lot of cross pollination between the films and the old Expanded Universe. The tier system was really more of a safety net so the films didn’t have to be slaves to pre-written canon, something that was reversed to great detriment post-Disney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,416 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Yound Indy was also referenced in KOTCS (rode with Pancho Villa) I don't think they will kill Indy in this movie. The essence of Indiana Jones is that there's always another adventure. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 As far as I can tell, there doesn’t seem to be much in the trailer from what I could guess to be from the final third of the film. No hint of a big final set piece, only the train stuff at the beginning and the Tuk Tuk chase. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, DarthDementous said: On paper yeah, in practise though there was a lot of cross pollination between the films and the old Expanded Universe. The tier system was really more of a safety net so the films didn’t have to be slaves to pre-written canon, something that was reversed to great detriment post-Disney There still is cross pollination with the old Expanded Universe — just look at Timothy Zahn’s Grand Admiral Thrawn, who was in some animated Star Wars and seems poised to appear in live action for Ahsoka! NOTHING new happened with the Disney takeover — they only continued doing what Lucas did before them on the prequels: ignore any of the complicated/convoluted/labyrinthine book series unless there was an element they particularly liked. And anyone who expected them to do anything else was being insanely unrealistic and unreasonable. Yavar mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: There still is cross pollination with the old Expanded Universe — just look at Timothy Zahn’s Grand Admiral Thrawn, who was in some animated Star Wars and seems poised to appear in live action for Ahsoka! NOTHING new happened with the Disney takeover — they only continued doing what Lucas did before them on the prequels: ignore any of the complicated/convoluted/labyrinthine book series unless there was an element they particularly liked. And anyone who expected them to do anything else was being insanely unrealistic and unreasonable. Yavar Thrawn was so popular that Timothy Zahn has written several new novels since the Disney takeover that fleshes out Thrawn's backstory (slightly altered from the original story he'd worked out) and fits into the new continuity. Under the old Heir to the Empire storyline, nobody knew Thrawn even existed until he returned from the Unknown Regions to take command of the remnants of the Empire about four years after the Battle of Endor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,651 Posted December 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Cerebral Cortex said: What a crazily perfect diplomatic answer to a trap question (well, a trap for a Hollywood director). Gabriel Bezerra, Yavar Moradi and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tom said: What a crazily perfect diplomatic answer to a trap question (well, a trap for a Hollywood director). I like how Mangold cuts through the crap in terms of online bullshit. Probably for the best here since a new Indiana Jones film invites a lot of that kind of stuff (especially coming off the heels of the nauseating ST discourse) Edmilson, Yavar Moradi, Cerebral Cortex and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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