Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (James Mangold, June 30 2023)

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I can't believe we're still doing "reshoots mean a movie is in trouble" in 2022

[Jurassic Shark 12,024]

8 minutes ago, mstrox said:

This should not set off alarm bells for anyone (or at least not any more alarm bells than Harrison Ford doing another Indiana Jones movie in his 80s” does)

 

Well, the first movie came out in the 80s, so they've kind of come full circle. 

[mrbellamy 6,272]

We're further from Raiders now than Raiders was from the birth of Harrison Ford 

[Yavar Moradi 2,585]

2 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:

Maybe harrison wanted to include short round since he found the actor in a convention recently… and that bringed back old memories

This is exactly what “new ending to shoot” made me think of. This film was originally shot before that actor returned to acting. But if this is Ford’s last acting role it would be such a shame if Short Round didn’t show back up for an on-screen reunion.

 

Yavar

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

1 hour ago, Disco Stu said:

I can't believe we're still doing "reshoots mean a movie is in trouble" in 2022

The Terminal's ending was reshoot and that's everyone's favorite movie

[mstrox 6,643]

The original ending had Ford riding off into the sunset, but Mangold got so tired of the whiny chuds on the Internet that he filmed a new ending where Some Lady blows Indy up with a bazooka, puts his hat on, and says “I’m Indiana Jones now, and the real adventure is only beginning.”

[Naïve Old Fart 9,493]

16 minutes ago, mstrox said:

The original ending had Ford riding off into the sunset, but Mangold got so tired of the whiny chuds on the Internet that he filmed a new ending where Some Lady blows Indy up with a bazooka, puts his hat on, and says “I’m Indiana Jones now, and the real adventure is only beginning.”

... all the while having a talk with her daughter, about this amazing man called Indiana Jones, and whistling "We Have All The Time In The World".

[WampaRat 1,105]

2 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

This is exactly what “new ending to shoot” made me think of. This film was originally shot before that actor returned to acting. But if this is Ford’s last acting role it would be such a shame if Short Round didn’t show back up for an on-screen reunion.

 

Yavar

One can hope! I won’t be crushed if he doesn’t show. But it would be icing on the cake for sure. 

 

Regarding the skepticism this movie may earn from some before seeing it, I’m of a similar mind with the thoughts shared by one of the guys on “The Weekly Planet” podcast:

“I get why people are skeptical. Because of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Because of some of the things that happened with Star Wars. I get why people look at this and see the ‘floating head’ on the horse and go, ‘ I hate this.’ But I reserve the right to go into this with absolute blind optimism. And that is what I’m going to do.”

 

 

(They’re not industry insiders or anything. Just two Aussie pop culture geeks.I enjoy their stuff)

 

[Brando 1,856]

5 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:

Maybe harrison wanted to include short round since he found the actor in a convention recently… and that bringed back old memories

I will say, when I heard JW's comment about that last night, my heart did sink a little, but I didn't even consider this could be a possibility now. That would be amazing if you end up being right.

[Tom 4,633]

4 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

This is exactly what “new ending to shoot” made me think of. This film was originally shot before that actor returned to acting. But if this is Ford’s last acting role it would be such a shame if Short Round didn’t show back up for an on-screen reunion.

 

Yavar

Marion: Oh Indy, you are finally home from your grand adventure.

Short Round: Hey Lady! You call him Dr. Jones. 

Iris out.  

[TolkienSS 405]

Yeah, THIS is the reason for reshooting the ending, to include a Short Round cameo.

It couldn't possibly be because of the nuclear heat radiating from the Pandora's Box that is/was the alleged finale of this film.

[greenturnedblue 372]

Somehow, short round returned...

[Yavar Moradi 2,585]

1 hour ago, TolkienSS said:

Yeah, THIS is the reason for reshooting the ending, to include a Short Round cameo.

It couldn't possibly be because of the nuclear heat radiating from the Pandora's Box that is/was the alleged finale of this film.

Correct — it couldn’t possibly be, Mr. Sarcastic. That stupid bullshit rumor (based on nonexistent test screenings?) is only “alleged” by internet trolls wanting to throw a tantrum about something. It has zero basis in fact.

 

On the other hand those of us thinking it MIGHT be for a Short Round cameo aren’t asserting it as a fact, merely a potential (fool’s) hope based on a lovely pair of photos taken of the two actors reuniting not that long ago.

 

Those bullshit rumors centered on the whole damn plot of this thing; it’s not as if the ending was the only objectionable part right, in this imagined version of the film where Phoebe Waller-Bridge replaces Indy throughout history? 🙄 So they’d have to reshoot A LOT OF THE MOVIE. And that’s not what’s happening.

 

Yavar

[Alex 2,833]

Short Round is now Tall Round these days 

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

6 minutes ago, Alex said:

Short Round is now Tall Round these days 

Round

[mstrox 6,643]

Does any supplemental material explain what the H “Short Round” means?  Someone must have read the novelization.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

2 minutes ago, mstrox said:

Does any supplemental material explain what the H “Short Round” means?  Someone must have read the novelization.

He's short and round

[WampaRat 1,105]

26 minutes ago, mstrox said:

Does any supplemental material explain what the H “Short Round” means?  Someone must have read the novelization.

According to the Indiana Jones Wiki:

 

”The boy known as Short Round was born Wan Li on February 8, 1926. Orphaned during the Japanese bombing of Shanghai in 1932, Li picked up his alias as a pickpocket on the streets of his home town and attempted to rob the man he would later refer to as Dr. Jones.”

 

https://indianajones.fandom.com/wiki/Short_Round

[Edmilson 7,384]

Anyone who saw Everything Everywhere All at Once knows that Short Round is now a kickass martial arts master.

[Andy 4,079]

This was tweeted today. Make of it what you will. 
 

[Goldfinger 59]

Not to mention, Ford was injured and they had to delay production and eventually push forward with a double. Those scenes need to be finished and that's what reshoots are built into the schedule to accomplish. After editing is done, sometimes you have to "fill in the blanks."

[Brando 1,856]

39 minutes ago, Goldfinger said:

Not to mention, Ford was injured and they had to delay production and eventually push forward with a double. Those scenes need to be finished and that's what reshoots are built into the schedule to accomplish. After editing is done, sometimes you have to "fill in the blanks."

Impossible, that makes too much sense.

[Chen G. 3,943]

18 hours ago, Tom said:

Marion: Oh Indy, you are finally home from your grand adventure.

Short Round: Hey Lady! You call him Dr. Jones. 

Iris out.  

It’s Emeritus Jones by now…

[Bespin 8,475]

16 hours ago, mstrox said:

Does any supplemental material explain what the H “Short Round” means?  Someone must have read the novelization.

 

In French, they translated "Short Round" by "Demi-Lune", which means half moon. Anyway, it means a part or half of something, because he's just a kid I think.

[Andy 4,079]

Half-Moon. I like that.  Thanks for sharing that. 

[1977 1,743]

I wonder what the intention is behind the line (paraphrasing) "I've come to believe it's not what you believe, it's how hard you believe it." 

[WampaRat 1,105]

I kinda want to think it’s a line taken out of context. Or they spliced some dialogue together just for the trailer (not unheard of). 

[Jurassic Shark 12,024]

12 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

I wonder what the intention is behind the line (paraphrasing) "I've come to believe it's not what you believe, it's how hard you believe it." 

 

He's talking about Santa.

[Tom 4,633]

It is just a safe way of affirming non-empirical/quasi-religious beliefs without affirming as true specific propositions which given religions do affirm.  

[Brando 1,856]

It’s the key ingredient in a trailer

[TolkienSS 405]

On 13/12/2022 at 2:56 PM, Disco Stu said:

I can't believe we're still doing "reshoots mean a movie is in trouble" in 2022

 

Don't movies have a pre-approved budget anymore in 2022?

[mstrox 6,643]

Yes, and scheduled reshoots are part of that budget on any movie with costs as high as this.

[Brando 1,856]

Looks like we will be finding out what happened to Mutt after all. Plus a new image!

https://ew.com/movies/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-james-mangold-2023-preview

[Bellosh 3,383]

If Mutt is alive (i think he is) then that means KOTCS's crappy plot of Indy being absent of most of Mutt's life until they meet leads to a very realistic possibility of not maintaining a relationship in Indy 5.  I mean, Indy wasn't a father of any kind.  Can't abandon the one that took care of you right?  Whoa....getting deep for an Indy film.

 

I'm hoping he is still alive.  I could honestly picture killing Mutt off could come off as a gag to most people, considering the character.

 

That said, Shia did fine in KOTCS.  Not his fault the character was butt.

[ThePenitentMan1 741]

3 hours ago, Brando said:

Looks like we will be finding out what happened to Mutt after all. Plus a new image!

https://ew.com/movies/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-james-mangold-2023-preview

 

The trailer didn't really do as much for me as I'd hoped it would.  Mangold's description here, though?  I'm suddenly starting to feel the hype welling up inside me again.

[TolkienSS 405]

Mutt is dead in the film. Yall know why.

[Bellosh 3,383]

You're the same person to post the rumour that got debunked. Go away.

[Bellosh 3,383]

Snooze me all you want, but the fact that you have SS in your username shows how stupid you are.  and every post of yours here reeks of a basement dwelling loser.

 

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that the SS truly doesn't mean what I think it does. But I still think you're incredibly dumb for even having it in the first place and an embarrassment on this forum.

[ThePenitentMan1 741]

5 hours ago, Bellosh said:

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that the SS truly doesn't mean what I think it does.

 

Steven Spielberg?

[Nick1Ø66 4,688]

7 hours ago, Bellosh said:

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that the SS truly doesn't mean what I think it does.

Oh rubbish. TolkienSS is no Nazi.

[Jurassic Shark 12,024]

Belloq (Bellosh?) worked for them...

[Nick1Ø66 4,688]

22 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Belloq (Bellosh?) worked for them...

 

Good point! Bellosh allied himself with the forces of evil WHO GIVES A DAMN WHAT HE THINKS.

 

@Bellosh we’re going to give you the benefit of the doubt that your name truly doesn’t mean what we think it does. 😜

[Brando 1,856]

HE KNOWS

[Jay 37,281]

Woah

[blondheim 1,157]

It’s all coming together now.

 

I might be more excited for Indy 5’s

score than I was for TROS. This is going to be a very special score. I really can’t wait, feels forever away.

 

But that’s okay. When Hook gets released in January, I’ll have something to hold me over

[Brando 1,856]

3 hours ago, blondheim said:

But that’s okay. When Hook gets released in January, I’ll have something to hold me over

Accurate

[JohnnyD 1,220]

4 hours ago, Brando said:

HE KNOWS

Holy crap! Please make this happen!

[Jurassic Shark 12,024]

Kathleen is gonna get pissed when Mangold too starts nagging about an iso score.

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

17 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

Oh rubbish. TolkienSS is no Nazi.

 

The SS suffix in usernames is an increasingly common dogwhistle in online spaces these days, as is the number 88 (I won't go into why, Google it if you want). 1988 happens to be my year of birth and I've had a few old accounts deleted because I had 88 in my username. 

[HunterTech 987]

It's precisely the kind of thing that wouldn't appear deceptive on the outset (especially as some here have already tried connecting it to Spielberg). If this particular guy is gonna get up in arms about the director of Don't Worry Darling saying it's an attack on an infamous political personality (plus the continually false "woke" spiel that keeps being repeated), then I don't blame anyone for thinking his username is a blatant attempt to see what he can get past the moderators.