crocodile 8,012 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Indiana Jones peaked in 1981. With every subsequent film the series just got worse and worse. I really don't want this movie at all regardless of who is doing it. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 For whatever reason, Raiders has always been my least favorite (at least until KOTCS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: I love when Williams gets to work with directors that he normally would never work with, even if it's for your normal franchise fare. To say Williams worked with Rian Johnson is a very broad interpretation of the word "with". Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, crocodile said: Indiana Jones peaked in 1981. With every subsequent film the series just got worse and worse. I really don't want this movie at all regardless of who is doing it. Karol I guess the original trilogy is just not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Not sure if this will be a good thing or not for Indy V, Part of me is excited for the change yet the other half of me is worried. If Williams does stay on to compose / conduct, I believe it would be just the 2nd time since Jaws 2 that he composed music for a Spielberg franchise without Spielberg directing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2020 His allegiance is to the Republic, to democracy! Unlucky Bastard, mstrox, The Illustrious Jerry and 3 others 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Probably for the best. Though I couldn't care less. Williams officially has an out of this franchise now. He might pitch in a new theme at most, a la Solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Perhaps Desplat will get another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 He stayed on for Star Wars, and apparently had strong feelings about some of the work on the Star Wars Story scores he didn't do. I wouldn't call it brand loyalty - I'd call it loyalty to his legacy of music. I would still bet on a Williams score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, KK said: Probably for the best. Though I couldn't care less. Williams officially has an out of this franchise now. He might pitch in a new theme at most, a la Solo. Fixed it for ya... KK and Unlucky Bastard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted February 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2020 43 minutes ago, gkgyver said: To say Williams worked with Rian Johnson is a very broad interpretation of the word "with". That's not how I remember it being reported. Smeltington, Jurassic Shark, Unlucky Bastard and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Indiana Jones peaked in 1981. With every subsequent film the series just got worse and worse. I really don't want this movie at all regardless of who is doing it. Karol The trilogy blows anything from the MCU away though. crumbs, Chen G., Bellosh and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Let it die peacefully (or so i wrote when it was first announced). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 In the scheme of things, Spielberg bailing is probably beneficial to this film - remembering very well here that he's been sick of the whole affair for DECADES. Not only that, but Stevie's exciting movie mojo is already sitting pretty in the care home, where it's been enjoying bed baths for the past ten years. He's not fit for high adventure any more. You can forgot John "stale" Williams too; the most damaging thing about this change is yet more delay in its actual production. Indiana Jones is a legendary trilogy from a bygone golden era in American blockbuster cinema. It shouldn't be remembered as the time cursed cobble job it's becoming. It's undignified. Just let it RIP. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Di$ney will hook the corpse on an iron lung, no matter what. That much is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 This "All the other ones suck after Raiders" schtick has been spamming the internet since KOTCS came out. I call bullshit. The entire trilogy has always been solid. mstrox and Fabulin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Millennials and zoomers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,835 Posted February 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2020 Well maybe this means Spielberg will tackle another project (Edgardo Mortara?) and we’ll get a new, more interesting score from JW. The Illustrious Jerry, Not Mr. Big, Quintus and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: This "All the other ones suck after Raiders" schtick has been spamming the internet since KOTCS came out. I call bullshit. The entire trilogy has always been solid. Solid? Sure. But they still get worse each time. Temple is an entertaining film for the most part but it feels annoyingly overcooked and Crusade is too watered-down and "polite" (which is even worse). Neither of them hits the tone quite right. Not all the time anyway. I'm not exactly sure whether Crystal Skull is as bad as it reputation suggests but it is nevertheless a much more significant dip in quality. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Wow, going from the "core 5" of the series to potentially just Ford. No Lucas, no Spielberg directing, no Khan editing, potentially no Williams scoring? My feeling is that Kennedy and Spielberg will still encourage JW to stay onboard. Not like he has anything else on his plate and they will probably want musical continuity to offset the change in direction. Just my two cents. Plus Spielberg would want another JW Indy score as much as any of us, even if he doesn't have the passion to direct the film it's associated with. Even when Spielberg handed off Jurassic to Trevorrow, they still tried to get Williams to score it (but I think the JP series is in a different category for Williams than Indy). Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Muad'Dib said: Good for Steven. He can focus on doing something he actuallys wants to. Plus he can focus on something that isn't guarenteed to suck, being: a) a film in a series that ended two entries prior and b) an action film where the hero is fucking 80! To me, its the last nail in the coffin of this abomination, and we're all better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, crocodile said: Solid? Sure. But they still get worse each time. Temple is an entertaining film for the most part but it feels annoyingly overcooked and Crusade is too watered-down and "polite" (which is even worse). Neither of them hits the tone quite right. Not all the time anyway. I'm not exactly sure whether Crystal Skull is as bad as it reputation suggests but it is nevertheless a much more significant dip in quality. Karol This is such a weird argument. As if to suggest that all film's of a given series need to be of the exact same quality as the original in order to somehow be considered as being good overall. I must admit in all my years of reading the internet, I've never encountered such a strange method of appraisal in relation to film or TV media. Meanwhile, you're always so eager to blow your load all over whatever the latest arbitrarily issued superhero package is to be emblazoned across theatres and then fawn all over it in internet text fields as if it's some grand third phase of a ring cycle the likes of which hasn't been seen since the epic poems of Homer. Double standards, Karol! Tsk tsk. Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Fabulin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, Quintus said: This is such a weird argument. As if to suggest that all film's of a given series need to be of the exact same quality as the original in order to somehow be considered as being good overall. I must admit in all my years of reading the internet, I've never encountered such a strange method of appraisal in relation to film or TV media. Meanwhile, you're always so eager to blow your load all over whatever the latest arbitrarily issued superhero package is to be emblazoned across theatres and then fawn all over it in internet text fields as if it's some grand third phase of a ring cycle the likes of which haven't been seen since the epic poems of Homer. Double standards, Karol! Tsk tsk. They are more interesting to me because they connect something that was important to me growing up. Comics came before movies. In contrast, I watched my first Indy film at the age of 15 so I don't have strong emotional connection to it save for the music. Just doesn't interest me, sorry. As for the first paragraph, I never said that. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Aye, double standard, that's what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Quintus said: Aye, double standard, that's what I said. Since the two things have nothing to do with each other and I criticise most superhero films anyway your point doesn't stand. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Well yeah you do, but don't you criticise literally everything you see anyway? By that I mean you always find something to moan about even as everyone else unanimously loves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 To croc’s credit, the Marvel flicks are remarkably consistent...in their blandness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Did the mouse house boot Spielberg off this because of his daughter? Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Quintus said: Well yeah you do, but don't you criticise literally everything you see anyway? By that I mean you always find something to moan about even as everyone else often unanimously loves it. I can't be criticising everything and "blowing my load off over stuff" both at the same time. Which one is it then? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, KK said: To croc’s credit, the Marvel flicks are remarkably consistent...in their blandness... It'd be arrogant of me to categorically agree as I have seen less than half of them and therefore I am not qualified to make such a sweeping determination. Same as I won't declare Under the Dome to be outright terrible either, as I only saw the first few episodes. For all I know the full thing might have been the TV equivalent of 2001: A Space Odyssey, so I play it safe. 10 minutes ago, crocodile said: I can't be criticising everything and "blowing my load off over stuff" both at the same time. Which one is it then? Karol You're unfamiliar with cry wanking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 993 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 It still weirds me out that despite the amount of crazy stuff that happens, people still consider the MCU bland. Like I get why some would say that by account on how strictly formula it is, but it's just fascinating that it'd turn out that way. As for Beltrami possibly getting the gig: did we forget Gods of Egypt exist? Or is his track record too inconsistent to trust that it could be the template he follows for Indy? I definitely would rather Williams and/or maybe Powell, but that's something I'd like to hear others talk about. Also: so Elfman is exempt from his current crop of additional composers, but Beltrami gets the RCP jokes in reskinned form? He only ever works with the same 3/4 people, for Christ sake! Does this only apply when the composer puts out stuff you don't like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I don't much stock in the "bland" label. Its more the winking-at-the-audience humour that gets me. It destroys that which movies mean to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Quintus said: You're unfamiliar with cry wanking? Since you're desperately trying to dodge the question, I will just assume you have nothing to add. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 These days only Phoebe Waller-Bridge can get away with winking at the audience. And fuck me does she own that shit. Before her? Wayne Campbell. These are the camera winking titans the Marvel guys and gals are up against. 5 minutes ago, crocodile said: Since you're desperately trying to dodge the question, I will just assume you have nothing to add. Karol Yeah Croc, that must be it. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Her involvement in the new Bond film is currently the saving grace I’m betting on. She’s brilliant! Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Yeah I saw that. What a boon for Bond! I'm actually interested in seeing this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jay said: Did the mouse house boot Spielberg off this because of his daughter? I missed it, what did his daughter do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jay said: Did the mouse house boot Spielberg off this because of his daughter? Is Disney run by puritanical Christians? A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just release it under the Buena Vista banner and everything will be fine. The double crossing babe can even go topless and Indy will get to say one "fuck". Works fine in Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: I missed it, what did his daughter do? https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/31627-steven-spielbergs-daughter-is-an-aspiring-porn-star/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: I missed it, what did his daughter do? At the moment just solo stuff and sadly no anal gape as of yet. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 The Logan approach is actually perfect for Indy's character. It's exactly how an older version of the character should be portrayed, similar to Eastwood in Unforgiven or any of those great Bogart film noir movies. That's really what Indy 4 should've been given the time period. Fabulin and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I still need to see Logan and I really wanted to an all. I'm not even into X-Men either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 It's a great film, however I thought the ending was a teensy bit rushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, crumbs said: The Logan approach is actually perfect for Indy's character. It's exactly how an older version of the character should be portrayed, similar to Eastwood in Unforgiven or any of those great Bogart film noir movies. That's really what Indy 4 should've been given the time period. Jones In cinemas 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Quintus said: I still need to see Logan and I really wanted to an all. I'm not even into X-Men either. It’s basically “The Last of Us”, but not as good. I enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I like the bIt where he kills everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jay said: https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/31627-steven-spielbergs-daughter-is-an-aspiring-porn-star/ OMG LOL I had to google image her and all I can say is "yikes". I take it she's adopted? I'm on my work laptop so don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole in my searches LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Do you see any family resemblance here? Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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