Edmilson 1711 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Williams first Malick score, containing a reflexive, wistful version of Raider's March for solo violin. Sounds good. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Just like Mutter wanted! Link to post Share on other sites
Fabulin 2482 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Indiana Jones 4: Mutt Indiana Jones 5: Mutter Indiana Jones 6: Muttest Smeltington 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Man 7211 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 David Lynch should direct. It'll just be an elderly Indy sitting in the museum talking to a monkey and someone sweeping the floor for two hours. mstrox and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Docteur Qui 761 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Hopefully Mangold returns some of the fun, pulpy blood and guts of the first two films instead of the sanitised slapstick of Crusade and Crystal Skull. Link to post Share on other sites
Fabulin 2482 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Docteur Qui said: Hopefully Mangold returns some of the fun, pulpy blood and guts of the first two films instead of the sanitised slapstick of Crusade and Crystal Skull. Mouse Reich investors will demand a family-friendly adventure. Forget it! Docteur Qui 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Docteur Qui 761 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Fabulin said: Mouse Reich investors will demand a family-friendly adventure. Forget it! indeed, I forgot that the Mouse is now Indy’s owner Link to post Share on other sites
AC1 2533 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Indy on a tractor! The Big Man 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Naïve Old Fart 4691 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Just now, Alexcremers said: Indy on a tractor! Aren't the films meant to be fantasy? He could his "tractor beam" The Big Man 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 5087 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Made the Cornfield Run in less than 12 laps. Link to post Share on other sites
Incanus 5260 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Indiana Jones and the Field of Dreams Tagline: If you put in a museum, he will come (cue Raiders March) 15 hours ago, Fabulin said: Indiana Jones 4: Mutt Indiana Jones 5: Mutter Indiana Jones 6: Muttest I am sure Williams would be keen to score Indy 5 if Mutter is involved. Also they could reveal Indy's mom as the McGuffin in number 5 (as bit of clever German word play on the title). Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 If Mutter requests a JW score, he cannot say no. Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 5087 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 He's only after seeing her mutt, that's why. Edmilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 You wordsmith! Link to post Share on other sites
Bayesian 624 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 No one seems to have an issue with Spielberg no longer directing, but I do. His unique, visually magical stamp was what made Indy 4 enjoyable. If Mangold is as journeyman a director as people here are saying, that bodes real poorly for the film. Not Mr. Big and Molly Weasley 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Indy 4 was enjoyable? Huh, I didn't notice that. Link to post Share on other sites
Edmilson 1711 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 It was as enjoyable as a car accident. Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 8381 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Bayesian said: No one seems to have an issue with Spielberg no longer directing, but I do. His unique, visually magical stamp was what made Indy 4 enjoyable.  Really? Maybe the first act, when he still had some semblance of interest in the movie he was making, but everything from "Peru" onwards (ie, the Universal Studios backlot, because Steven didn't want to leave the USA) is as flat and visually uninteresting as the output from any pedestrian director.  It's very clear his heart wasn't in the film and I think he reached the same conclusion here. Holko and Edmilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Naïve Old Fart 4691 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Spielberg. Lucas. Ford. Blanchett. Allen. Hurt. Broadbent. Winstone. Williams. Kahn. Kaminski. Such a fucking waste of talent. Kill it, now. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 You forgot Shia. Link to post Share on other sites
Naïve Old Fart 4691 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, Quintus said: He's only after seeing her mutt, that's why. You always were a cunning linguist. Quintus 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Naïve Old Fart 4691 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 No...I didn't Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 He must have been a real talented hack in order to get the role. Link to post Share on other sites
Naïve Old Fart 4691 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Back in 2007, he was "the next big thing". Shame it never worked out, for him. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Back in 2007, he was "the next big thing". Shame it never worked out, for him.  He ruined his own career with his stupid behaviour. Sad. Link to post Share on other sites
Edmilson 1711 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Back in 2007, he was "the next big thing". Shame it never worked out, for him.  He is sort of like Robert Pattinson: star of dumb blockbusters on the 2000s, rediscovered as an indie darling on the late 2010s.  But, despite the critical hit that was Honey Boy, Pattinson did achieved more success on the indie cinema than most of his colleagues of silly kids movies of the late 2000s: Shia, Zac Efron, the werewolf kid from Twilight, and probably even Radcliffe and the missing guy who was Ron Weasley... Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Man 7211 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Don't ask. Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 5087 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: You always were a cunning linguist.  This is the shit right here. More like this please. Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Man 7211 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Sounds like cunnilingios Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 8381 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 This really is a fantastic opening sequence. Haven't watched it in years but it has that classic Spielberg blocking and editing. You can tell this was shot during the first few days of production when Spielberg was still invested in recapturing the magic. Â Â You also get the first hints that something is off with the cinematography. Such ugly green/unnatural colour in what should be an earthy, natural-looking sequence. I'd love to see this re-graded in Slocombe's style, with the sky actually blue. Â Overall it captures the late 50's vibe nicely though; shame about everything that followed. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 You get the first hints that something is off when Indy survives in the fridge. Edmilson and Molly Weasley 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Holko 5345 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 You get the first hints that something is off when an Indy movie squeamishly and overprotectively looks away from people being shot. How much greater is it when Indy's blood sputters up on the truck windshield in Desert Chase and he has to be nursed by Marion on the ship instead of being an untouchable rubber dummy brushing of every fall? crumbs and Edmilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 8381 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 This is one of the ugliest, worst graded shots I've seen in a modern Hollywood movie. Was Spielberg paying any attention to what Kaminski and his colourist were doing in the grading suite? Â Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Quintus 5087 Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, crumbs said: This really is a fantastic opening sequence. Haven't watched it in years but it has that classic Spielberg blocking and editing. You can tell this was shot during the first few days of production when Spielberg was still invested in recapturing the magic. Â Â You also get the first hints that something is off with the cinematography. Such ugly green/unnatural colour in what should be an earthy, natural-looking sequence. I'd love to see this re-graded in Slocombe's style, with the sky actually blue. Â Overall it captures the late 50's vibe nicely though; shame about everything that followed. Â It does capture some of the Indiana Jones essence, but I don't like how they couldn't be bothered to even think up a separate "bottled" opening sequence which would have been in keeping with the Indiana Jones movie tradition. This one just leads directly into the main plot, adding to the overriding sense of laziness which pervades the entire movie. crumbs, Edmilson and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Sweeping Strings 858 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 The punch-up with the Russian heavy who is then carried off by the army ants is probably Crystal Skull's sole example of a sequence with the spirit of the first 3 films.  crumbs 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Edmilson 1711 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I don't know, still thought that scene was pretty bad. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 1801 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Let’s get Taika Waititi in, he’s directing everything these days Link to post Share on other sites
Fabulin 2482 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Jones Jones Rabbit? Link to post Share on other sites
JTWfan77 809 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, crumbs said: You also get the first hints that something is off when the movie's iconic mountain silhouette opening turns out to be a prairie dog mound. Â Fixed! Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 It's all they could afford. Do you know how expensive mountains are nowadays?!? Link to post Share on other sites
Smeltington 688 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Do you know how expensive a small pile of dirt is nowadays?? Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6287 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Not to mention prairie dogs. Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Man 7211 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 5 hours ago, crumbs said: This is one of the ugliest, worst graded shots I've seen in a modern Hollywood movie. Was Spielberg paying any attention to what Kaminski and his colourist were doing in the grading suite? Â Â That magenta sky wtf Link to post Share on other sites
Koray Savas 1772 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: He ruined his own career with his stupid behaviour. Sad. I much prefer his career now, actually making quality films and acting, rather than his early blockbuster years. So I’d say he ended up in a better position. This is also just plain and simple genius:  Bofur01 1 Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 8381 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Smeltington said: Do you know how expensive a small pile of dirt is nowadays?? Â They couldn't get clearance from PETD to do that shot practically. Link to post Share on other sites
gkgyver 1564 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Koray Savas said: I much prefer his career now, actually making quality films and acting, rather than his early blockbuster years. So I’d say he ended up in a better position. This is also just plain and simple genius:   This is the kind of frivolous, pointless and useless bullshit that at the end of the day makes people ask "where does all the money go?"  "Quality acting". Ugh Jurassic Shark 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrbellamy 4348 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I got out a kick out of some of the viral shia-te he was doing ("DO IT!!!") but American Honey is the best thing he's done so far. Generally he's lucky he got out of the blockbuster game early. He wasn't doing anything worthwhile anyway.  15 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: The punch-up with the Russian heavy who is then carried off by the army ants is probably Crystal Skull's sole example of a sequence with the spirit of the first 3 films.   I prefer the motorcycle chase. It's not a classic setpiece but gets the job done.   The greaser vs jocks standoff is on the verge of "too cute" but the brawl at 0:38 is well-choreographed. I just like that. The way the crowd flows together, it looks pretty real.  I love how fast the motorcycle feels at 1:18. I can't think of many examples where a director authentically captured the speed of a vehicle like that, for some reason this just sticks out to me as faster than usual for a typical movie chase. It's a cool shot and the direction/editing has some zip throughout.  And "If you wanna be a good archaeologist, you gotta get out of the library" as Indy rides off on the back of a motorcycle isn't a bad David Koepp punchline. In general I like that the sequence plays up that he's kind of a boring old man now without embarrassing him too much. It's something different, maybe a little forced but it works. They try to do the "Indiana Jones is just an old professor!" shtick again in the quicksand scene and it falls infinitely flatter.  That's about as far as I go in appreciation of #4...not much I admire after that. Obviously "The Jungle Chase" is Williams's best try at a bangin musical cue, he mostly lands it. Also there's one simple but weirdly dynamic shot when Indy and Mutt first arrive in Peru and Mutt's playing with his knife, the camera goes through like three pivots at once that are entirely motivated by the framing of Mutt and Indy and yet also completely unnecessary. I remember watching that and being like "Only Spielberg would do this." It's harder to find him in there as it keeps going. Holko and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 8381 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I think he just lost interest halfway through production and started phoning it in. The opening titles with the Elvis song, warehouse sequence, Nuke Town and motorcycle chase were all shot in the first few weeks of principal.  The first major dialogue scene (between Indy and Spalko) is bizarre though, both the stilted direction and weird performances. I guess SS and HF were both rusty on the first few days. Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 5087 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 And the dialogue between Indy and Spalko there is woeful. Cerebral Cortex and crumbs 2 Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Man 7211 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Especially those wubbleyoos. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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