The Chronicles of Narnia (Netflix reboot)

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Jay 37,291]

Oooh yea, he'd do well with this.

 

What happened to him anyway?  Copernicus Star / Battle for Terra / Escape from Tomorrow were all so awesome, then he just kinda disappeared.  I know he scored that Penny Dreadful show for a while, but that wasn't really my thing.  When's he gonna do something cool again?

[mstrox 6,647]

The lion is jesus

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

12 minutes ago, mstrox said:

The lion is jesus

 

This is the water.
And this is the well.
Drink full and descend.
The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within.

[KK 3,307]

Newman and Narnia could be quite exciting. But he needs to be properly motivated.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

They should pay him loads of money!

[mrbellamy 6,272]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Oooh yea, he'd do well with this.

 

What happened to him anyway?  Copernicus Star / Battle for Terra / Escape from Tomorrow were all so awesome, then he just kinda disappeared.  I know he scored that Penny Dreadful show for a while, but that wasn't really my thing.  When's he gonna do something cool again?

 

His Nocturnal Animals score was good.

[Jay 37,291]

Oh yea, I still haven't seen that movie, I want to

[Naïve Old Fart 9,502]

On 27/04/2017 at 9:38 PM, Disco Stu said:

late-80s BBC television adaptation of The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe (still my favorite adaptation)

 

Agreed. It's rather sendid.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Looked rubbish!

[Naïve Old Fart 9,502]

So did most mid-to-late 80s BBC fantasy (THE TRIPODS, anyone?).

Sometimes, it's the ideas that make a piece shine, and not necessarily its execution.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I think the story is much better told in that version than in the Hollywood one.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

The Chronic

[Fancyarcher 350]

Last film? You should never trust a director to retire. 

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[mrbellamy 6,272]

2 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

The Chronic

 

WHAT

Cles of Narnia!

[Pieter Boelen 740]

This gives me hope! Joe Johnston generally has pretty good scores for his films.

[Jay 37,291]

Netflix Developing 'The Chronicles of Narnia' Films, TV Series

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

@Jay any chance of you being able to "fix" the title of this thread just so I can recognize it in the future. Or is that totally reliant on Bloodboal's return, if any?

[Jay 37,291]

Fixed

[Nick1Ø66 4,689]

So Narnia is Netflix's consolation prize for losing out to Amazon on Middle-Earth.

 

The same question will be asked that asked of every Narnia adaptation...how much of the religious imagery and themes will they keep?

I'm frankly looking forward to BBC's His Dark Materials more.

 

@Jay, given that the Joe Johnston flick is clearly off, maybe a more appropriate thread title to reflect the project's new home at @ Neflix? Perhaps something more in line with a title @BloodBoal would pick? e.g. "Netflix scoops up Narnia: Will there be porn?"

[Jay 37,291]

Wikipedia says Netflix is distributing Joe Johnston's film now.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Narnia_(film_series)#Crew

[Nick1Ø66 4,689]

Hmmmm.

 

It seems unlikely to me that there would be a theatrical adaptation continuing the prior film series, and a reboot, both done by Netflix. Has the Johnston film even started shooting? It's been in development hell forever. I bet there will be news of its cancellation any time now.

 

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The Narnia books have been adapted several times before, most recently by Disney for three films — 2005’s The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, 2008’s Prince Caspian, and 2010’s The Voyage of the Dawn Treader. A film version of the fourth book in the saga, The Silver Chair, was supposed to start filming this year under director Joe Johnston with Gordon producing, but it sounds like this deal is effectively overwriting that one.

 

 

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I’d prefer Blu-ray releases of the old BBC series.

[Nick Parker 3,040]

5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

I’d prefer Blu-ray releases of the old BBC series.

 

Were those the animated ones?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

31 minutes ago, Nick Parker said:

 

Were those the animated ones?

 

No!

[Jay 37,291]

Netflix Eying Greta Gerwig to Direct ‘The Chronicles of Narnia’ Movie

[Mr. Who 919]

Does this mean Desplat scoring? Would be great but I want HGW to return.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Right now, I think I'd single out Lewis as probably my favorite writer ever, but I did not enjoy the first Hollywood attempts at adapting the Narnia books.  Greta Gerwig does not strike me as the right person either.  At worst she actively undermines Lewis (I'm afraid this is also the most likely scenario).  At best.... well, I dunno really what the best case is here.  I like Gerwig's Little Women a lot actually.  She made some pretty big changes for that adaptation, but the changes were ones that struck me as very much honoring Louisa May Alcott in an honest and admirable way.  All I can hope is that she would afford Lewis the same honor. 

 

Past Lion/Witch/Wardrobe, I'm not sure the Narnia books are even adaptable.  It might take some 'big swing' creative choices.  It will definitely require somebody finally realizing that the Chronicles of Narnia are not an epic fantasy series, but something far more interesting and strange.  I'm interested to see what Gerwig does, if indeed she actually has this job.  I'm not seeing this story picked up by the 'respectable' industry outlets yet.  I'm just glad it's not (shudder) Benioff & Weiss or similar type of assholes.

 

 

On 03/10/2018 at 6:15 PM, Disco Stu said:

I’d prefer Blu-ray releases of the old BBC series.

 

This is still my opinion!

[Mr. Who 919]

Greta Gerwig is apparently directing at least 2 Narnia movies so given her history of working with Desplat, I think the odds are good that he will score the new Narnia movies!

 

This would be a great scoring assignment!

 

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1675791292620500994

[Faleel 5,340]

Kinda funny if he does, seeing as he scored Golden Compass.

[Mr. Who 919]

33 minutes ago, Signals said:

Kinda funny if he does, seeing as he scored Golden Compass.

Golden Compass isn’t bad I thought, it’s His Dark Materials.

 

I love his HP scores so I think he’d be a great fit for Narnia.

[Knight of Ren 786]

I hope they do a proper adaptation of all the books, because while I really like the ones they did, it was such a shame they suddenly stopped doing them, adaptin only 3 of the 7 books. I hope this time they can get it right (and I'm hoping something similar for the Percy Jackson TV show adaptation in Disney+).

 

As for the music, I think Desplat would be a great fit, and I could see it happen if Gerwig is involved, but otherwise, I don't really see him as a composer who would work for Netflix in this kind of adaptations, but who knows, since he has already lent his hand in other sagas like Dark Materials or Harry Potter (both of which I loved).

[JNHFan2000 2,944]

If Desplat would be doing this, and I don't mean it in a mean way because I like Desplat, but I wouldn't be surprised if he would get replaced again.

Because it doesn't seem like producers/directors these days want the Harry Potter/Golden Compass Desplat anymore.

The last time he wrote a great action score was Valerian and that's 6 years ago.

 

But I would love it if Desplat would get the chance to do multiple fantasy films where he can build on his own themes. 

[1977 1,743]

I'd be fine with them leaving TLTWATW, PC and VOTDT as is and doing only the remaining ones, using the existing films as vague backstory, as Superman Returns did with the Donner film. We don't need everything rebooted. Most of the returning characters, for example in THAHB, would be much older anyway so recasting is fine. If Neeson wants to continue as Aslan, great, but if not, there's enough actors that can do the voice justice.

[mstrox 6,647]

Andy Serkis should do a mo-cap Aslan

 

The three movies are pretty bad, especially the third, though I’m not much a fan of the books either.  I personally think that if they’re going to do this though, they should adapt everything - go all the way. 

[JNHFan2000 2,944]

Wouldn't these books work better as a series, like Game Of Thrones.

 

I've read 4 of the books and they're pretty extensive

[Richard Penna 3,673]

I liked the first movie but I haven't read the books so I don't know whether a series would've done a better job.

 

I don't think we should be pining for HGW/Desplat/whoever to return. These reboots are a good opportunity for other/new composers to try something bigger scale and generally make a new iteration of the story.

[1977 1,743]

I'm pretty sure Netflix will insist on removing every last bit of Christian allegory from these stories.

[iamleyeti 114]

OK. I absolutely adore Desplat. And his score for The Golden Compass. And his work with Gerwig. So please, please be true!!!

[Yavar Moradi 2,590]

5 hours ago, JTWfan77 said:

I'm pretty sure Netflix will insist on removing every last bit of Christian allegory from these stories.

I’m an atheist fan of these books and that’s utter nonsense. They’re going to remove Aslan? Literally the entire plot of the first book is clear Christian allegory. How can they possibly retain any aspect of the basic plot and have it NOT be Christian allegory? Do you even know these books?

 

Yavar

[HunterTech 987]

Hey, maybe wait for them to actually confirm these things before we let speculation dictate how we look at this venture going forward.

[A. A. Ron 1,739]

I was raised on these books because they were Christian and now that I'm no longer religious, I don't see how anyone who isn't could really could get anything out of them. Different strokes I guess. I'd love to buy expanded soundtracks for Caspian and Dawn Treader though.

[Yavar Moradi 2,590]

2 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

I was raised on these books because they were Christian and now that I'm no longer religious, I don't see how anyone who isn't could really could get anything out of them.

Um…good stories?

 

Yavar

[1977 1,743]

7 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Do you even know these books?

 

What an idiotic statement. Of course I do, I read them when I was eleven years old. As a Christian, I'm pretty sure I recognise Christian allegory better than any atheist, whatever that is.

[A. A. Ron 1,739]

4 hours ago, JTWfan77 said:

 

What an idiotic statement. Of course I do, I read them when I was eleven years old. As a Christian, I'm pretty sure I recognise Christian allegory better than any atheist, whatever that is.

As an atheist, I know that you’re wrong. I still pick up on Christian messages in fiction that my parents don’t even notice and then they’re always amazed by how “deep” it is.

[mstrox 6,647]

I’m an atheist who went to church every Sunday for like twenty years at my parent’s behest, so I know enough about the material to roll my eyes at the Narnia books and movies.

[Yavar Moradi 2,590]

On 4/7/2023 at 2:29 AM, JTWfan77 said:

What an idiotic statement.

 

Thanks, the feeling is mutual!  

 

On 4/7/2023 at 2:29 AM, JTWfan77 said:

Of course I do, I read them when I was eleven years old.

 

If that was the last time you read them, that explains a whole lot! Despite being an atheist, these are some of my favorite books since childhood. I was first read them out loud when I was 6-7 years old, by my (very religious) English teacher grandmother. I am sure she re-read my favorite ones (like Voyage of the Dawn Treader) to me. I then read them all several more times when I was a pre-teen, and one more reading as a teenager. And THEN, as an adult, I read all seven books to my wife out loud, to help her go to sleep at night (she suffers from insomnia). And a couple years after that she wanted me to read them all to her again, except for the final book The Last Battle (which I totally understand, because it's the weirdest of the seven by far, with some of the most awkward religious stuff -- my wife is also an atheist -- and also just some stuff that really hasn't aged well).

 

I've either read (or been read to) The Last Battle, my least favorite book in the series, four times at this point. The other books I've all read at least seven times each... and my absolute favorites I've read more times than that.

 

On 4/7/2023 at 2:29 AM, JTWfan77 said:

As a Christian, I'm pretty sure I recognise Christian allegory better than any atheist, whatever that is.

 

You don't know... what an atheist IS?  Are you really THAT sheltered (or maybe just delusional and don't believe they exist)? It's very simple: we are people who simply don't believe in deities. We believe the universe can and does exist without being created by some all-powerful being. Simple!

 

Since you're apparently so ignorant about athiests, I guess I'll educate you more: Many of us were unfortunately raised religious. I can't say I ever *really* believed in God, but I was a dutiful son to my very religious parents and always attended church (Roman Catholic, every Sunday) for many years, until at some point not long after my Confirmation, I just decided I was tired of going through the motions and buying into a belief system which did absolutely nothing for me. I didn't need the community, or want to be a part of it just because I went through the motions of believing in Sky Father Watching Us from Above. But I studied religion plenty. I dutifully attended Sunday school for many years, as well as being involved in religious youth groups and such. I read the Bible, and let me tell you... there's nothing quite as effective at turning one atheist as actually reading that bloody thing. Even in higher education there are a lot of Religious Studies people who are atheist, because they find religion fascinating from an anthropological standpoint. And I guarantee you those folks know a lot more about Christianity than the average Christian.

 

So tell me, since you're such an expert on Christian allegory, how you would adapt The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, if you were a godless Hollywood producer and you wanted to render that story without any Christian allegory? Not have Aslan 

Spoiler

give his life for Edmund’s sin and then get resurrected after??

(Like, the main crux of the story?)
 

On 4/7/2023 at 7:08 AM, A. A. Ron said:

As an atheist, I know that you’re wrong. I still pick up on Christian messages in fiction that my parents don’t even notice and then they’re always amazed by how “deep” it is.

 

Agreed. The vast majority of religious people I know are dutiful believers who don't really question their faith. Remember how "doubting Thomas" was shamed by Jesus, for needing proof of the resurrection. Most religious Christians want to be the GOOD disciples, who never question/challenge things. Which also means they can't dig too deep into it, because then a lot of uncomfortable questions start coming up.

 

5 hours ago, mstrox said:

I’m an atheist who went to church every Sunday for like twenty years at my parent’s behest, so I know enough about the material to roll my eyes at the Narnia books and movies.

 

Do you roll your eyes at all of them collectively, or are there just certain parts (i.e. Aslan giving a lecture or something) which you find cringey? I guess there are a few parts of them which make me roll my eyes... but if anything my wife (who wasn't really raised Christian... her mother was more into astrology which she also regards as nonsense) became a bigger fan of the Narnia books and movies than I am. Maybe because she can look at them more as an anthropologist might, not having any of the unpleasant associations with Christianity that I do from being brought up in it.

 

To me, the Narnia books are just good storytelling, and I guess I prefer Lewis's allegorical version of Christianity to actual Christianity, because he kinda sands off a lot of the worst parts. He makes Aslan's sacrifice more acceptable to me than Jesus's, somehow, by putting it in the context of "magic". I think I have such a problem with the Bible and Christianity because believers see it all as True, rather than Fantasy. And while C.S. Lewis wrote The Chronicles of Narnia as "truth" no doubt, from his perspective... as an athiest I can still enjoy those books as Fantasy adventures.

 

I have some religious friends who really love the His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman, a staunch atheist. Many of them can recognize the atheism at the very core of those novels, but they still enjoy them as Fantasy adventures. What's much more bizarre to me was a female friend of mine in high school who confided in me that she was a big fan of Ayn Rand's writing and loved reading her books... even though she profoundly disagreed with Rand's outlook and even morality! Have a hard time wrapping my mind around that one.

 

Yavar

[Romão 2,274]

I'm a Christian who vastly prefers His Dark Materials to the Narnia books, so like @Yavar Moradi said, it's really hard to generalize these things