rpvee 805 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Let's start a list of films that we each think had a better score than the film itself. I'm sure there are several! I'll start:The Governess - Edward ShearmurSeriously, I'd had the soundtrack to this movie long before I actually saw "The Governess" itself. I'm a huge fan of Ofra Haza, so hearing her heavenly voice combined with soft, soothing sounds from the Middle East (and the occasional calming bird call) made this soundtrack one of my favorite albums on my iPod. Then I finally got around to watching the film itself. In fact, I just finished it... and I feel like the score was actually much better than the film itself. The film was well made and well acted, but it was also a bit strange, and the fact that they only used Ofra's voice during the sexual/love scenes was embarrassing and pathetic, her voice deserves better use than that. Again, a well made film, just undeserving of the marvelous score composed for it.Here's a piece from the soundtrack, called "Salome" (excuse the relatively poor sound quality, the soundtrack isn't very well known so this is the best there is on Youtube at the moment): And here is how such a haunting and beautiful piece of music was used (warning: some slight nudity, but in an (attempted) artistic way). So post your thoughts on films with better soundtracks than the movie itself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Off the top of my head...TODthe prequelsThe Haunted Mansion (Mancina)ST:TMPHook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Lady in the WaterThe VillageBasically the entirety of M. Knight Shyamalan post-Unbreakable career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 The Lost World(Although I enjoy them) SW PrequelsX3Batman and RobinJP3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 The Lost WorldGood one, yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Conan The BarbarianStar Trek V, First Contact, InsurrectionTerminator SalvationJaws The Revenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Nearly every score Goldsmith ever wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Nearly every score Goldsmith ever wrote.With the exception of:"Planet Of The Apes","Patton","The Omen","The Wind And The Lion","Alien","Under Fire","Basic Instinct",for starters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Cutthroat Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Cutthroat IslandOr is that "Catthroat Island"?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Nearly every score Goldsmith ever wrote.With the exception of:"Planet Of The Apes","Patton","The Omen","The Wind And The Lion","Alien","Under Fire","Basic Instinct",for starters...That's why I said "nearly" I caught a bit of the traversty that was King Soloman's Mines on tv the other day. Awful, dire movie; but damn that action music was good.Jerry Goldsmith: The Christopher Lee of film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Nah, he was better than Lee. More versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you think "KSM's" is bad, try making it through the sequel without gnawing your hand off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Way too many.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Nearly every score Goldsmith ever wrote.With the exception of:"Planet Of The Apes","Patton","The Omen","The Wind And The Lion","Alien","Under Fire","Basic Instinct",for starters...Also 'The Sand Pebbles', 'Gremlins', 'The Ballad of Cable Hogue', and quite a few more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Add The Ghost and the Darkness to that list of goodies. But man, he scored a lot of stinkers, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 And Mulan. And The 13th Warrior. And... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Add The Ghost and the Darkness to that list of goodies. But man, he scored a lot of stinkers, too.Undoubtedly. I think it's mostly because he scored such a huge amount of movies that with that much work and this kind of industry, you're bound to get your fair share of crapola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Scores better than their films? Loads! Off the top of my head..."Hook","The Swarm","Jaws2","Jaws3D","King Kong"(1976),"King Kong"(2005),"The Lost World:JP","Gremlins","Raise The Titanic","Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade","Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull","Jane Eyre","Goodbye Mr. Chips","How To Steal A Million",That's enough to be going on with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 All the SW scores, except the first two.And pretty much everything Williams composed in the 00's. With very few exceptions.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Scores better than their films? Loads! Off the top of my head..."Hook","The Swarm","Jaws2","Jaws3D","King Kong"(1976),"King Kong"(2005),"The Lost World:JP","Gremlins","Raise The Titanic","Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade","Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull","Jane Eyre","Goodbye Mr. Chips","How To Steal A Million",That's enough to be going on with.What's wrong with 'Gremlins'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 No offence to you, Charlie, or anyone else who likes "Gremlins", but it's a film that I have never been able to connect with. To me, it's a bit like "Ghostbusters", in that all seems to be a joke that's gone way over my head. I will admit, though, that I really like "Gremlins II". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I swear we already had a thread with the exact same title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Yeah and the better thread would be movies better than the scores composed for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Stargate (1994) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I swear we already had a thread with the exact same title."All this has happened before, and all of it will happen again."Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Stargate (1994)That movie wasn't that bad. Neither was ID4 in my opinion. Out of Arnold's filmography I'd pick Godzilla and CoN:VoDT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 almost anything Goldsmith did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 1941 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmw331 2 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Brian Tyler's Timeline is exponentially better than the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 If anything Gremlins 2 qualifies as a score that is much better than the film, not Gremlins.Alfred Newman's The Greatest Story Ever Told and Miklos Rozsa's King of Kings are tow scores much better than what ended up on film. I'd even add Dimitri Tiomkin's score to The Alamo as well.But yeah Goldsmith scored his share of stinkers, because he did so much work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 It would be a crime if no one mentioned Alien 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Again, Legends of the Fall, Final Fantasy the Spirit Within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Loved the film, my favorite ang lee movie, but I'd say Hulk by Elfman makes that film so much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Brian Tyler's Timeline is exponentially better than the movieSo is Goldsmith's original score for that film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 If anything Gremlins 2 qualifies as a score that is much better than the film, not Gremlins.I love Gremlins 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 1941WHAT????!!!! It would be a crime if someone mentioned Alien 3.Sorted. If anything Gremlins 2 qualifies as a score that is much better than the film, not Gremlins.I love Gremlins 2.As do I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibug 0 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Swarm comes to my mind. I've never seen the film, but I heard a lot of negative comment on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 You should watch it just once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmw331 2 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Brian Tyler's Timeline is exponentially better than the movieSo is Goldsmith's original score for that film.Yeah, I gotta listen to that soon. One of the few Goldsmith scores I haven't heard. That and LLL's Trek V to name a big one that comes to mind. Trek's on my desk, opened of course, but I guess I'm just waiting for a special day to listen to it....and I've had it since Christmas!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 22 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Tron: Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauben 0 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Some John Barry Bond scores like Moonraker, You Only Live Twice.The Prince of Tides from James Newton Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 If I've seen a bad movie, I've seen and HEARD a bad movie so the score gets thrown out with the movie, AFAIC.No 50/50-it's ALL or *nothing*.....You don't hear people say "Damn, that was the S-------------T movie I've ever seen! I'm gonna get the soundtrack tomorrow!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 a bad movie can have good acting, good camerawork good special effects, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 You don't hear people say "Damn, that was the S-------------T movie I've ever seen! I'm gonna get the soundtrack tomorrow!!!!!True, but sometimes one is fortunate enough to be forced to give the score another chance, apart from the contagious horribleness of the film, which can lead to the realization that the score is actually great. Case in point for me personally: Hook. I know some people love the film, but I think it's just cringe-worthy. As a result, the score irritated me at first blush, and it was only with subsequent listens (after allowing the memory of the film to fade) that I realized it's a true masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 22 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Robot Jox: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I'd throw Quantum of Solace into the list.I found the film confusing, boring, with a completely scare-free villain and truly appalling direction. But I love Arnold's score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I found the villain rather repugnant, actually.Arnold's score is outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 If I've seen a bad movie, I've seen and HEARD a bad movie so the score gets thrown out with the movie, AFAIC.No 50/50-it's ALL or *nothing*.....You don't hear people say "Damn, that was the S-------------T movie I've ever seen! I'm gonna get the soundtrack tomorrow!!!!!Completely disagree with you. I've seen plenty of shitty movies, where I noticed the score was good and bought it. You don't have to like the film to like the score it was written for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 60-75% of my collection features music from films I'll never watch again. There have been many films I thought were bad but the music captivated me. If the movie sucks I'll try and pay attention to the music, that way my experience will have some positives, I may have wasted $7.00 on crappy film but I've got a new soundtrack to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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