Sandor 796 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Today I was listening to John Williams' score for Heidi, and I find the main theme extremely "Goldsmithian", especially as it's arranged in the Main Title cue.What John Williams theme do you find most "Goldsmithian"? I know Jerry and John are very different composers, but where do you feel their creative output overlapped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,974 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The Lost World sounds kind of like Goldsmith to me.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,034 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I don't think I've ever heard a Williams theme that sounded "Goldsmithian" to me. As you said, they're very different composers. Each has (or had ) a pretty unique, recognizable musical voice. I haven't heard Heidi, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,822 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I watched 2 days ago The Towering inferno (for the first time) and the love theme (or Susan's theme) reminded me a lot of Goldsmith's Russia house theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I cant really think of any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The Eiger Sanction main theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Only one comes to mind, but Midway sounds a lot like Patton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Midway sounds very Williams, so does The Lost WorldI guess I'd agree with Eiger Sanction. I might mistake it for one of the thrillers Goldsmith scored in the 70's like Cassandra Crossing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I'll buy Midway, Eiger and Lost World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Midway sounds very Williams.Agreed. It is definately a Williams score, but it does take a lot of cues from Patton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,452 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 None. They both have very distinctive sounds.But Williams has sounded a bit like Herrmann on occasion. Like the main theme from WITCHES OF EASTWICK. And THE FURY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,974 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Goldsmithian doesn't necessarily has to mean that he's writing in his style. I picked TLW because it kind of reminds me of Goldsmith's more muscular adventure.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yeah I kind of think some people are taking this the wrong way. I'd say Heartbeeps is a good candidate. There are a few cues from Munich that have a Goldsmith feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 22 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 But Williams has sounded a bit like Herrmann on occasion. Like the main theme from WITCHES OF EASTWICK. And THE FURY.Hasn't every major or minor composer sounded like Herrmann in one score or another at one point in their career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 All the above mentioned ones. Monsignor also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Interesting I always though of Monsignor as Rota-esque. Stylistically it might not exactly be Goldsmith, but Images matches the weirdness levels of some of Jerry's more avant-garde work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 yes the main theme of Monsignor is Godfather inspiredbut everything else is pure Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 BLACK SUNDAY has Williams' most Goldsmithian action writing, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Ahh, Monsignor, JW's 1982 Razzie nominee for Worst Musical Score. Yes, the main theme sounds like a parody of the Godfather. I still don't know how I feel about that.I'd say Heartbeeps is a good candidate.Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 yes the main theme of Monsignor is Godfather inspiredbut everything else is pure WilliamsI thnik I don't mean Monsignor, but Visit to Sicily or something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 The Lost World sounds kind of like Goldsmith to me.KarolYes it does. Especially after listening to Capricorn One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwing 0 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I think the love theme from The Missouri Breaks sounds like a fairly typical Goldsmith love theme. That's the only one I can think of off the top of my head, but it really struck me when I heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 None. They both have very distinctive sounds.But Williams has sounded a bit like Herrmann on occasion. Like the main theme from WITCHES OF EASTWICK. And THE FURY.THE FURY was even *mixed* with classic Bernard Hermann work in mind, like NORTH BY NORTHWEST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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