Sandor 354 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Today I was listening to John Williams' score for Heidi, and I find the main theme extremely "Goldsmithian", especially as it's arranged in the Main Title cue.What John Williams theme do you find most "Goldsmithian"? I know Jerry and John are very different composers, but where do you feel their creative output overlapped? Link to post Share on other sites
crocodile 5012 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The Lost World sounds kind of like Goldsmith to me.Karol Link to post Share on other sites
Datameister 1117 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I don't think I've ever heard a Williams theme that sounded "Goldsmithian" to me. As you said, they're very different composers. Each has (or had ) a pretty unique, recognizable musical voice. I haven't heard Heidi, though. Link to post Share on other sites
filmmusic 814 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I watched 2 days ago The Towering inferno (for the first time) and the love theme (or Susan's theme) reminded me a lot of Goldsmith's Russia house theme. Link to post Share on other sites
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10237 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I cant really think of any. Link to post Share on other sites
Sibelius6 975 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The Eiger Sanction main theme. Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckM 1 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Only one comes to mind, but Midway sounds a lot like Patton. Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2673 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Midway sounds very Williams, so does The Lost WorldI guess I'd agree with Eiger Sanction. I might mistake it for one of the thrillers Goldsmith scored in the 70's like Cassandra Crossing Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6387 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I'll buy Midway, Eiger and Lost World. Link to post Share on other sites
ChuckM 1 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Midway sounds very Williams.Agreed. It is definately a Williams score, but it does take a lot of cues from Patton. Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 4013 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 None. They both have very distinctive sounds.But Williams has sounded a bit like Herrmann on occasion. Like the main theme from WITCHES OF EASTWICK. And THE FURY. Link to post Share on other sites
crocodile 5012 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Goldsmithian doesn't necessarily has to mean that he's writing in his style. I picked TLW because it kind of reminds me of Goldsmith's more muscular adventure.Karol Link to post Share on other sites
Ollie 736 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yeah I kind of think some people are taking this the wrong way. I'd say Heartbeeps is a good candidate. There are a few cues from Munich that have a Goldsmith feel to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin 22 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 But Williams has sounded a bit like Herrmann on occasion. Like the main theme from WITCHES OF EASTWICK. And THE FURY.Hasn't every major or minor composer sounded like Herrmann in one score or another at one point in their career? Link to post Share on other sites
MSM 70 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 All the above mentioned ones. Monsignor also. Link to post Share on other sites
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10237 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Interesting I always though of Monsignor as Rota-esque. Stylistically it might not exactly be Goldsmith, but Images matches the weirdness levels of some of Jerry's more avant-garde work. Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2673 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 yes the main theme of Monsignor is Godfather inspiredbut everything else is pure Williams Link to post Share on other sites
publicist 3865 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 BLACK SUNDAY has Williams' most Goldsmithian action writing, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6387 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Ahh, Monsignor, JW's 1982 Razzie nominee for Worst Musical Score. Yes, the main theme sounds like a parody of the Godfather. I still don't know how I feel about that.I'd say Heartbeeps is a good candidate.Yes! Link to post Share on other sites
MSM 70 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 yes the main theme of Monsignor is Godfather inspiredbut everything else is pure WilliamsI thnik I don't mean Monsignor, but Visit to Sicily or something like that? Link to post Share on other sites
stewdog1 50 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 The Lost World sounds kind of like Goldsmith to me.KarolYes it does. Especially after listening to Capricorn One. Link to post Share on other sites
vwing 0 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I think the love theme from The Missouri Breaks sounds like a fairly typical Goldsmith love theme. That's the only one I can think of off the top of my head, but it really struck me when I heard it. Link to post Share on other sites
skyy38 21 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 None. They both have very distinctive sounds.But Williams has sounded a bit like Herrmann on occasion. Like the main theme from WITCHES OF EASTWICK. And THE FURY.THE FURY was even *mixed* with classic Bernard Hermann work in mind, like NORTH BY NORTHWEST. Link to post Share on other sites
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