Nick Parker 2891 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, Pando said: A completely different, earlier version of Rey's Theme Also, you covered Blade Runner Blues on a CS80. You are welcome on this forum. Pando 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pando 127 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Also, you covered Blade Runner Blues on a CS80. You are welcome on this forum. Thanks, that was actually done with Deckard's Dream (self-built). Nick Parker 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Nick Parker 2891 Posted June 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2020 The original Scavenger cue shows a fascinating glimpse into the creative process behind this trilogy, and serves as a parallel to Attack of the Clones. At this point, Williams knew Rey would be the granddaughter of Palpatine but wanted to write material that would not give it away. However, Abrams clearly thought it was too subtle, and had William rewrite Rey's music to include the minor third interval, a clear and irrefutable link to Palpatine. This echoes the foreshadowing of the Republic's transition into the Empire at the end of the end of Attack of the Clones, which also featured a revised cue designed to telegraph where things were going...and who was behind that shift too? Our man Sheev, of course. Genius. BrotherSound, Holko, mstrox and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pando 127 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 ^ Or it could also be that Williams wasn't told about Rey's lineage at first and wrote this with Vader's theme all over it. JJ did a facepalm and had to tell him the full story. In any case, this is a piece of unknown Williams' music that very few people have heard before. Not sure if it was even recorded. Link to post Share on other sites
MikeH 634 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 On 6/23/2020 at 11:44 PM, Pando said: A completely different, earlier version of Rey's Theme Thanks Pando! What samples are you using for playback? Link to post Share on other sites
gkgyver 1613 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 On 6/24/2020 at 6:44 AM, Pando said: A completely different, earlier version of Rey's Theme For a major Star Wars theme, this sounds bad. Like a cue from Tintin. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19100 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 But that's the point, we don't know it's a "major Star Wars theme". It's a cue that scored a scene in the movie. We can't assume he would have taken the material here and used it as Rey's theme in subsequent scenes. Link to post Share on other sites
AC1 2658 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/24/2020 at 7:09 AM, Pando said: Thanks, that was actually done with Deckard's Dream (self-built). Did you use the Roland VP-03 for the strings? Link to post Share on other sites
BrotherSound 849 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I also shared this on the ‘Restored Isolated Score: Star Wars Saga’ thread, but since it’s a mockup, it seems appropriate to also share it here. There was music written in the original version of the cue 5M6 Inner City for a brief deleted scene from the original 1977 Star Wars of Darth Vader and an officer walking down a Death Star hallway. This scene would have been placed exactly where the Jabba scene ended up in the special edition of the movie. However, by the time the cue was recorded the scene was out and so the cue was revised to excise this section. Pando and Falco 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Pando 127 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Did you use the Roland VP-03 for the strings? No, just the Xils V+ VST (default Simple Strings patch), which is a pretty good Roland VP-330 emulation. The Blues was recorded live with Kurzweil Midiboard (with polyphonic aftertouch) as I played it impromptu for my friend shortly after I got my Deckard's built and running. I think I was among the first 3 to finish building it successfully back in December 2017. AC1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BrotherSound 849 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 For better context, I’ve added a few seconds before and after the music I mocked up written for the deleted Vader scene from Star Wars Episode IV. The rest of the unrecorded early version of the cue (5M6 Inner City) is identical to the final version 5M6R Inner City. Pando and Nemesis 2 Link to post Share on other sites
gkgyver 1613 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 12:50 AM, Jay said: But that's the point, we don't know it's a "major Star Wars theme". It's a cue that scored a scene in the movie. We can't assume he would have taken the material here and used it as Rey's theme in subsequent scenes. The post specifically said "earlier version of Reys theme". Link to post Share on other sites
Falco 2400 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 hours ago, gkgyver said: The post specifically said "earlier version of Reys theme". The poster made an assumption. He (most likely) didn't work on the production,. He's not John Williams, so he doesn't really know. Pando 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pando 127 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 1:32 PM, MikeH said: Thanks Pando! What samples are you using for playback? Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra (the old one, not the new BBC). It's got a wonderfully natural tone, as the samples were recorded at AIR Lyndhurst Hall. MikeH 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Giftheck 412 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I revisited this after the final Tomb Raider Suite came out. But I only put it online a few months ago. Mainly a few changes to choir, low instrumentation and the violins in the third part of the piece. I also did this using the original time signatures (which are, quite frankly, a bit bananas) Link to post Share on other sites
gkgyver 1613 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Why? What are the time signatures? After a long wait, I've finally downloaded Berlin Strings. The last string library I had was EWQL from 10 years ago. The difference in sound is incredible, and the smaller sections very handy for divisi. It's also the first time (you'll probably think I'm a caveman) I have a proper MIDI Keyboard with proper MIDI controllers. Just improvising with the various sounds is something I could spend hours on. There's nothing synth-y about it at all. It's as if you listen to actual players. I can't stress enough how much of a quantum leap (no pun intended) this is from 10 years ago. And how liberating it is to not worry about spending an excruciating amount of time on making something sound *just about* right. Nick Parker 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Parker 2891 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I remember there being shifts from 4/4 to 5/4 and back in the melody but I don't remember any others. That's quite an endorsement, @gkgyver! Link to post Share on other sites
Giftheck 412 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 hours ago, gkgyver said: Why? What are the time signatures? From Bear McCreary's site where he talks about the music of KOTM. 4/4, 5/4, 4/4, 5/4, 3/4. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Pando 127 Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 The Speeder Chase as was originally composed before it was cut up. karelm, ChrisAfonso and Bellosh 3 Link to post Share on other sites
karelm 1943 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Pando said: The Speeder Chase as was originally composed before it was cut up. That sounds excellent! What libs? Link to post Share on other sites
Pando 127 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 8/16/2020 at 4:42 PM, karelm said: That sounds excellent! What libs? Thanks! I'm using Spitfire Symphony Orchestra, Solo Strings, Studio Orchestra, together with SampleModeling Brass. karelm 1 Link to post Share on other sites
karelm 1943 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Pando said: Thanks! I'm using Spitfire Symphony Orchestra, Solo Strings, Studio Orchestra, together with SampleModeling Brass. Is Spitfire Symphony the same as Spitfire BBC Symphony? Link to post Share on other sites
Pando 127 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, karelm said: Is Spitfire Symphony the same as Spitfire BBC Symphony? No, BBCSO is their newer library but not as extensive and not sonically as good. Unlike the BBCSO, the older SSO was actually recorded at AIR Lyndhurst Hall, the same scoring hall where JW recorded Harry Potter. karelm 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BrotherSound 849 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Unused opening fanfare for Superman: The Movie (original 1M1): Falstaft, Pando and Loert 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1808 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 You guys are amazing with your mock-ups! Link to post Share on other sites
Laserschwert 194 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just for fun: Loert 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ragoz350 95 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I have already published them in another thread, but I will post them here too. Two unreleased cues from "Empire of the Sun". Synced mockups to picture can be viewed here and here. ragoz350 · EOTS Mockups Jay 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Giftheck 412 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 The correct thread this time. Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisAfonso 98 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Did this as a little exercise for mixing/balancing with some newly-acquired libraries (definitely room for improvement): Link to post Share on other sites
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