Joe Brausam 214 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 So 2 things...1. My matrix is correct, right? The Prime 0 row IS correct.2. I need another set of eyes starting on the lat chord of the last stave of the second to last measure of the first system (whoosh!). I'm not really identifying that, Eb, B, D? It doesn't show up on my matrix as far as I can see, so I can't see this being part of a tetra/hexachord let alone a full set. Which leads me to think my matrix is wrong, but it's been right so far. Help?Here is the matrix/relevant music: http://www.multiupload.com/DC6D94VUMW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Go here and you need never worry about these things ever again!http://composertools.com/Tools/matrix/MatrixCalc.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 That is AMAZING. That can save a lot of time, thanks!Real nice to know I didn't screw up the matrix as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Glad to be of service! I recently used this matrix-calculator in my dissertation, and it was extremely useful! Saved a lot of time, and the potential of making mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 So 2 things...1. My matrix is correct, right? The Prime 0 row IS correct.2. I need another set of eyes starting on the lat chord of the last stave of the second to last measure of the first system (whoosh!). I'm not really identifying that, Eb, B, D?Those are the pitch classes of the first trichord of the prime series. If they sound together as a chord, then it's an aggregate of that trichord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 Great, thanks! For some reason that was really throwing me off, I wasn't sure whether it was really a trichord or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Great, thanks! For some reason that was really throwing me off, I wasn't sure whether it was really a trichord or not.Actually, wait a second - I think I could be wrong here:Take a look at your matrix again, and the row itself:I think what you've got is the first trichord of the third inversion of prime series 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 I think you may be right. Inversion 3 goes D, Eb, B, etc. All those pitches for I3 are accounted for in their respective trichords between that and the next measure, too.Thanks for that, I really don't know why it wasn't clicking with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 No problem. When are your brain juices are running dry, you often miss small details like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Webern did love his (0,1,4) set classes didn't he? They're everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 And Stravinsky didn't...Interesting thought though, when you think about it, you could see it as just two augmented scales. Each scale/hexachord a major second apart.Certainly gives the composition an Eastern European Klezmer feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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