SCORE: The Lost World Jurassic Park (John Williams) - A Complete Score Analysis

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

@1:11-15. Is that the Carnivore Motif I hear?

Just wanted an excuse to bump this thread.

[JohnnyD 1,220]

I think it is. I have never noticed that until you pointed it out. Very clever subtlety, Maestro. Awesome.

[Incanus 5,713]

Ooh a good catch Mr Shark! It is going into my analysis!

[crocodile 7,973]

No, it's not. I liked it the way it was. It's a product of its time and should stay that way.

And Han shot first.

Karol

[Incanus 5,713]

No, it's not. I liked it the way it was. It's a product of its time and should stay that way.

And Han shot first.

Karol

Wait until you see the magnificent paragraphs I added willy nilly all over the analysis that were typed against a green screen in a backlot far away from the actual keyboard. You see I typed this analysis back in the day when modern keyboard technique wasn't advanced enough for some really cool things I can achieve with this new technology. In a way I had to wait for the technology to catch up to my original vision. This is in a way the version of the analysis I would have originally written had I had the means to do it.

[JohnnyD 1,220]

You know what I find really phenomenal about the entire musical sequence of Truck Stop? The moment when the two T-Rexs come out, that section of the music with the bells. It just captures a feeling of doom. On top of that, the moment they appear; their foot falls are signaled specifically by the music if you take away the sound effects. It is quoting both the Carnivore motif from the first film and the variation of it used in this film.

[Jay 37,249]

It's an awesome moment. I have no clue why Williams thought it wasn't OST worthy.

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

You know what I find really phenomenal about the entire musical sequence of Truck Stop? The moment when the two T-Rexs come out, that section of the music with the bells. It just captures a feeling of doom. On top of that, the moment they appear; their foot falls are signaled specifically by the music if you take away the sound effects. It is quoting both the Carnivore motif from the first film and the variation of it used in this film.

It's amazing, isn't it? I think you're the first person to ever mention that.

[JohnnyD 1,220]

Thank you very much; I am able to offer a lot of insight into the Maestro's music. There will eventually be an expanded release of John Williams' music to The Lost World: Jurassic Park. I am confident in that.

[Incanus 5,713]

A very interesting observation Johnny. Could you provide the time stamps for the Carnivore motifs in the section of the Truck Stop you mention?

And yes it is a brilliant bit of music most TLW score fans lament as missing from the OST. Since it was not an insert or added late in the scoring process it must be a conscious edit for the album which is a real head scratcher.

[JohnnyD 1,220]

In the cue, Truck Stop, a variation of the carnivore motif appears at 2:52-3:00, 2:59-3:06, and a build up with two extra notes at 3:07-3:18. Obviously, the full cue is unreleased, so I revisited the scene from the film itself for the exact timing in the cue.

[Incanus 5,713]

You can be sure that this analysis will most certainly receive an update after the John Williams Jurassic Park Collection is released. Which is just one day away!

 

Looking forward to both musical revelations from all the unreleased music and from Mike Matessino in the liner notes.

[Incanus 5,713]

OK revisions done to the whole analysis bringing it up to date with info found on the LLL release of the score and taking in consideration the actual unreleased music (not just mock-ups).

[Jay 37,249]

Wow sweet!

[Incanus 5,713]

I am still tinkering with it though as I always find something to revise. Internet film music analysis is never finished.  

[Luke Skywalker 1,792]

17 minutes ago, Incanus said:

I am still tinkering with it though as I always find something to revise. Internet film music analysis is never finished.  

 

You forgot the baby dinosaur motif in A neighbourhood visitor...

[Incanus 5,713]

I might add it if and when I actually can convince myself that it is there.  

[Luke Skywalker 1,792]

You think it is not?

 

Dont you think it's too coincidentical Williams uses similar music-instruments (than other baby references) for that scene while the rest of the cue is nothing like it?

[Incanus 5,713]

It's very much down to the beats of the scene what kind of dynamics such a single moment might have in the film. While the score does have specific textures that become thematic in themselves (e.g. the Compys) I am not quite convinced this San Diego moment counts as thematic per se.

 

EDIT: I made a small adjustment to the Neighbourhood Visitor as a concession just for you Mañuel.  

[Luke Skywalker 1,792]

4 hours ago, Incanus said:

It's very much down to the beats of the scene what kind of dynamics such a single moment might have in the film. While the score does have specific textures that become thematic in themselves (e.g. the Compys) I am not quite convinced this San Diego moment counts as thematic per se.

 

EDIT: I made a small adjustment to the Neighbourhood Visitor as a concession just for you Mañuel.  

Awesome!

 

 

[bollemanneke 3,334]

Hi Incannus, I'm slowly reading your (obviously) brilliant analysis and have a question about the hunt. You write that JW was dismayed that this marvellous cue went unused. Where did you hear that information? Can you elaborate/provide a quote?

[Incanus 5,713]

39 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

Hi Incannus, I'm slowly reading your (obviously) brilliant analysis and have a question about the hunt. You write that JW was dismayed that this marvellous cue went unused. Where did you hear that information? Can you elaborate/provide a quote?

Ah I forgot to mention the source in the analysis itself but it was Conrad Pope who mentioned this little bit of information on his Facebook page a number of years ago.

[bollemanneke 3,334]

Thank you! It's such a great piece.

[stravinsky 203]

Oh Incanus your work is fantastic. This is worthy of a book! Is there a similar breakdown of JP? 

[CuriousMan 16]

I've always liked how a handful of these cues are featured in the Making Of... featurette. (Unreleased included)