indy4 152 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 It's been a while since we've rated our Williams collection, and I'm ready to do it again. My ratings are out of 5 stars.Bachelor Flat: 3 (for what it is, it's good)None But the Brave: 2 (pretty boring, except for a few good parts)Lost in Space: 1.5 (great main themes, everything else is incredibly boring)John Goldfarb, Please Come Home!: 3 (it's fun, but nothing great)How to Steal a Million: 3.5 (my favorite score by Johnny, really exciting and beautiful)Penelope: 3 (it's fun, but nothing great)Guide for the Married Man: 3 (the main theme is really catchy, and there's a good amount of really cool stuff)The Reivers: 4 (beautiful score, I love the harmonica)The Cowboys: 4.5 (really exhilerating)The Poseidon Adventure: 2 (really boring, except for a few good moments)Images: 3.5 (JW's most unique score)The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing: 2.5 (some cool parts, but overall it drags a bit)Cinderella Liberty: 3 (took me a while to warm up to it, but it's a fun score)Earthquake: 3.5 (some really fun and cool passages, better than it sounds in the film)Jaws: 4 (love the swashbuckling stuff, and the main theme is incredibly effective)Thomas and the King: 4 (songs are for the most part really good)The Eiger Sanction: 4 (lots of really cool music here, love the mix of jazz and symphonic)Family Plot: 4 (one of JW's more imaginative scores, great use of chorus, harpsichord, and synths)The Missouri Breaks: 3 (nice love theme, but overall easy to forget)Midway: 2.5 (kinda boring, but the march and the "Men of Yorktown" theme are very good)Black Sunday: 4 (great at building tension, very effective when listened to as a whole)Star Wars: 4.5 (exhilerating and beautiful)Close Encounters of the Third Kind: 4 (some of it is hard to get through, but when it's good it is fantastic)The Fury: 4 (love the tension and horror)Jaws 2: 4 (possibly better than the first score, a really fun listen)Superman - The Movie: 4 (parts of it drag, but like CE3K, when it's good it is fantastic)Dracula: 4.5 (beautiful and haunting)1941: 4 (exhilerating, love "Swing, Swing, Swing")The Empire Strikes Back: 5 (JW's first masterpiece, fantastic)Raiders of the Lost Ark: 5 (another masterpiece, the Lost Ark theme is one of his best themes ever)Heartbeeps: 4 (beautiful, catchy, and fun)E.T.: 5 (another masterpiece, but probably the least awesome of the masterpieces because it drags a bit)Monsignor: 3 (good, but nothing incredibly noteworthy)Return of the Jedi: 4 (good, but there are moments where it drags)Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: 4 (great score, but a little overbearing at times)The River: 3.5 (good score)Amazing Stories: 3.5 (both episodes are good, as is the main theme)SpaceCamp: 4.5 (exhilerating and beautiful, if not the most original score)The Witches of Eastwick: 3 (good, but not incredibly memorable except for the "Dance of the Witches")Empire of the Sun: 3.5 (beautiful passages, but also some less memorable stuff)The Accidental Tourist: 3.5 (beautiful and delicate, but a bit too reliant on the same two themes)Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: 5 (another masterpiece)Born on the Fourth of July: 3.5 (beautiful)Always: 3 (when it's good it's beautiful, but there are a lot of boring parts)Home Alone: 4.5 (really fun, heartwarming score)Hook: 5 (another masterpiece, exhilerating)JFK: 4 (tension filled and exciting)Far and Away: 4.5 (gorgeous love theme)Home Alone 2: 4 (suffers from self plagiarism, but there's enough new material to make it enjoyable)Jurassic Park: 4 (the main theme can get a little tiring, but this score offers a lot of other material)Schindler's List: 3.5 (beautiful)Sabrina: 4 (gorgeous)Nixon: 3.5 (haunting and obsessed)The Lost World: 4.5 (superior to the original score)Seven Years in Tibet: 3 (haunting main theme)Amistad: 4 (some parts are so beautiful)Saving Private Ryan: 3.5 (some boring parts, but some truly beautiful stuff)Stepmom: 3 (good, but a little boring)The Phantom Menace: 4 (exhilerating, a great return to the saga)The Unfinished Journey: 3.5 (great highlights, but some self-plagiarism)Angela's Ashes: 4 (haunting and gorgeous main theme)The Patriot: 3 (good, but not great)A.I. Artificial Intelligence: 4.5 (the themes are so beautiful)Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone: 5 (another masterpiece)Attack of the Clones: 4 (a very different direction for the SW saga, but a great score)Minority Report: 3.5 (some moments are great, but some are boring)Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: 3.5 (again, lots of plagiarism, but also lots of great new stuff)Catch Me If You Can: 4 (one of JW's most unique scores, half jazz half symphonic)Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban: 5 (his most recent masterpiece)The Terminal: 4 (the love theme is one of his all time best)Revenge of the Sith: 4.5 (best SW score since Empire)War of the Worlds: 3 (good, but hard to listen to sometimes)Memoirs of a Geisha: 3.5 (good if you have the patience to sit through the entire score)Munich: 3 (good, but not great)Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: 3.5 (lots of fun to listen to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 6,637 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 "CE3K" - 100,000,000.Everything else - in-between 2, and 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Jaws, Star Wars, CE3K, Superman, TESB, Raiders, E.T., ROTJ, Temple of Doom, Last Crusade, Hook, Jurassic Park.^ The masterpieces.Everything else, 3-4 star goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I'm too lazy to copy & paste my entire list so I'll just point to the previous 2 threads that have my lists. Mine haven't changed. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15039&st=0&p=421216&hl=towering%20inferno&fromsearch=1entry421216http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18592&st=0&p=623150&hl=+rate%20+your%20+williams%20+scores&fromsearch=1entry623150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Hoyt 13 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Jaws, Star Wars, CE3K, Superman, TESB, Raiders, E.T., ROTJ, Temple of Doom, Last Crusade, Hook, Jurassic Park.^ The masterpieces.Everything else, 3-4 star goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,294 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 5 stars:Jane EyreJawsStar WarsClose Encounters of the Third KindSuperman - The MovieThe Empire Strikes BackRaiders of the Lost ArkSchindler's List4 stars:Family PlotBlack SundayThe Eiger SanctionThe FuryDraculaIndiana Jones and the Temple of DoomThe Witches of EastwickEmpire of the SunJFKFar and AwayJurassic ParkThe Lost World: Jurassic ParkSeven Years in TibetThe Phantom MenaceAngela's AshesA.I. Artificial IntelligenceCatch Me If You CanHarry Potter and the Prisoner of AzkabanRevenge of the SithWar of the WorldsMemoirs of a GeishaIndiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull3 stars:The Missouri BreaksJaws 2Midway1941E.T.Return of the JediThe Accidental TouristIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeBorn on the Fourth of JulyHookHome AloneHome Alone 2AmistadSaving Private RyanThe PatriotHarry Potter and the Sorcerer's StoneAttack of the ClonesMinority ReportHarry Potter and the Chamber of SecretsThe TerminalMunich2 stars:HeartbeepsMonsignorThe RiverSpaceCampNixonStepmom1 star:AlwaysSabrinaThe rest I don't know.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 3 stars:E.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,294 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I like the opening, the Yoda bit, finale and end credits. That's about it. Don't like the movie and never did (even when I was a kid). I'm serious.Having said that, I've never ever heard the original album.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Whether you like the movie or not doesn't really matter either way. There's things I'm not interested in or a fan of, but I can still appreciate greatness objectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,294 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Whether you like the movie or not doesn't really matter either way. There's things I'm not interested in or a fan of, but I can still appreciate greatness objectively.You see, the problem is, apart from the bits I mentioned, I can't really hear anything special in the rest of the underscore. Even if I detach myself from it completely. I often either turn it off or fall asleep. It's a fact. Can't do anything about it.What should I do? Give it 5 stars only because other people would do that? Hell, no! It's my personal list and it stays that way.(unless, of course, our dear moderators decide otherwise )Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (unless, of course, our dear moderators decide otherwise )KarolPerhaps you need correcting....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I know just the man for the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 My kids, sir, they didn't care for the score to E.T. at first. One of them actually stole a pack of matches, and tried to burn my CD. But I "corrected" them sir. And when my wife tried to prevent me from doing my duty, I "corrected" her. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I'm too lazy to copy & paste my entire list so I'll just point to the previous 2 threads that have my lists. Mine haven't changed. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15039&st=0&p=421216&hl=towering%20inferno&fromsearch=1entry421216http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18592&st=0&p=623150&hl=+rate%20+your%20+williams%20+scores&fromsearch=1entry623150use Mark's link to find my ratings, sorry Croc, but your rating of ET is a croc, a croc of shit. If you don't like the little underscoring in it then you don't like the underscoring in most JW films. That said Adventures on Earth trumps most everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 ★★★★★ E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Empire Of The Sun Schindler's List Saving Private Ryan A.I. Artificial Intelligence Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban Munich ★★★★ Cinderella Liberty Jaws Black Sunday Star Wars Superman: The Movie The Empire Strikes Back Heartbeeps Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom The Accidental Tourist Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade Hook Home Alone 2: Lost In New York Jurassic Park Rosewood ★★★—★★—★ Everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I guess I'll play along. Of course these ratings are just MY opinion only. You may or may not disagree with it.5 Stars:The Empire Strikes BackStar Wars4 Stars:The Phantom MenaceRevenge Of The SithHome AloneJurassic ParkE.T. The Extra TerrestrialHook3 Stars:Attack Of The ClonesHarry Potter (all 3)Witches Of EastwickHome Alone 2: Lost In New YorkThe Lost World: Jurassic ParkBlack SundaySchindler's List2 Stars:A.I. Artificial IntelligenceI'll probably get flack for A.I. but I honestly don't like it that much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 783 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 My kids, sir, they didn't care for the score to E.T. at first. One of them actually stole a pack of matches, and tried to burn my CD. But I "corrected" them sir. And when my wife tried to prevent me from doing my duty, I "corrected" her. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5,273 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I'm too lazy to grade every single work I own (which is about 200), but yeah...this Williams guy.....great composer! (seriously, though, I might do this if I get the sudden urge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,294 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 sorry Croc, but your rating of ET is a croc, a croc of shit.Somehow I knew you'll say that. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Joe loves E.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 104 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 The Cowboys ***Family Plot ***Jaws ****Midway ***Black Sunday ***1/2Star Wars *****Close Encounters of the Third Kind ****Jaws 2 ****Superman ****1/2The Empire Strikes Back ***** (First Place) Raiders of the Lost Ark *****ET *****Monsignor ****Return of the Jedi ****1/2Temple of Doom ***** (Second Place)Spacecamp ****Witches of Eastwick ***Empire of the Sun ****Last Crusade ****1/2Born on the Forth of July ***Home Alone *****Hook ****1/2JFK ***1/2Far and Away ****1/2Home Alone 2 ****Jurassic Park ***** (Third Place)Schindler’s List *****The Lost World ****1/2Seven Years in Tibet ***Amistad ***Saving Private Ryan ***Phantom Menace *****The Patriot ***AI ****1/2Sorcerer’s Stone ****1/2Attack of the Clones ****Minority Report ***1/2Chamber of Secrets ****Prisoner of Azkaban *****Terminal ***Revenge of the Sith ****1/2War of the Worlds **Memoirs of a Geisha ****Munich ***Kingdom of the Crystal Skull **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 0 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 By rating and roughly ranked in order of my personal preference (which fluctuates):5 stars (the masterpieces):The Empire Strikes BackReturn of the JediJurassic ParkHarry Potter and the Prisoner of AzkabanStar WarsIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeE.T.HookHarry Potter and the Sorcerer's StoneSabrina4 stars (anything short of an outright masterpiece):Empire of the SunRaiders of the Lost ArkIndiana Jones and the Temple of DoomAttack of the ClonesRevenge of the Sith3 stars (great scores - worth a listen once in a while):The Phantom MenaceHarry Potter and the Chamber of SecretsThe Lost World: Jurassic ParkIndiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull1-2 stars:I don't bother listening to Williams' scores I think would be ranked this low, but I have yet to listen to one bad enough to earn the rating. I didn't include any scores on my list that I don't own or haven't listed to all the way through.Also, a disclaimer - my love for a score can sometimes be influenced by my familiarity with it. Eventually, some of the scores you may consider a 5-star score that I rated lower may move up the list as I discover its intricacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant 1,093 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 About these collection lists, it always surprises me the absence of CE3K. Or if one has it, the low rank. People, please give it a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 349 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 About these collection lists, it always surprises me the absence of CE3K. Or if one has it, the low rank. People, please give it a change.Too true. Especially considering how influential Williams was on that film. Speaking of, Jay, almost done with your complete cue list for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 these lists are to long to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 6,637 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 3 stars:E.T. He may have a point, dude. Perhaps he's just grown out of it, as I have. Then again, I'd give "The River" 4 stars, and "The Accidental Tourist" 5 stars, so what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Quite a few people consider The Accidental Tourist a 5 star score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I listened to the FSM CD once and enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 6,637 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Quite a few people consider The Accidental Tourist a 5 star score.DAMN RIGHT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Just a quick detour, there is an interview out there somewhere where Kasdan talks about working with Williams and how he would never do it again because he had no input on the score. He basically said Williams watched a rough cut and went off for several months and Kasdan didn't see him again until the scoring sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,294 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Was that a bitter experience then?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 1,410 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 MY absolute 5 Star scores from Mr. Williams (in no particular order)JawsRaiders of the Lost ArkIndiana Jones and the Temple of DoomIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeE.T. the Extra TerrestrialStar WarsThe Empire Strikes Back-----The rest are all rather close, and although I do consider some of his others '5 Star Scores', those are my absolute favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,442 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Ah yes. Anyone who doesn't give ET or Jaws five stars is an idiot and their opinions are garbage. The classic JWFan thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 MY absolute 5 Star scores from Mr. Williams (in no particular order)JawsRaiders of the Lost ArkIndiana Jones and the Temple of DoomIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeE.T. the Extra TerrestrialStar WarsThe Empire Strikes BackThese types of lists are so boooooring (no offense to you ). E.T. is the only usual suspect that makes my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Yeah but you listen to Zimmer so....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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