#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Of course you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, Stefancos said: Of course you do! Well, it's not a terribly controversial stance. I'd say yours is far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Two of my favorite scores of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Of course they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Batman's great, but Batman Returns is even better. Once and idril 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 6 hours ago, BloodBoal said: The main themes of both movies are classics (BTTF moreso than Batman, I'd say, though). The scores... I think they're both good-to-great scores, but I wouldn't call them masterpieces. Especially the BTTF score, which relies too heavily on the main theme. Thank you! 1 hour ago, Rose Dawson said: Batman's great, but Batman Returns is even better. Batman Returns is a far better score, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Quote The theme will make its first appearance in from of the inaugural film in the new classic monster series, Alex Kurtzman’s The Mummy Danny Elfman and Brian Tyler, together again on The Mummy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I've appreciated Elfman's trend over the past few years to go small, since his "big"/"gothic" scores of late all have tended to sound a bit same-y. But what the hey, hope springs eternal. Let's hear a big ol' Elfman score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Danny Elfman and Brian Tyler, together again on The Mummy!!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted June 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2017 Great interview with Danny Elfman about his new Violin Concerto and other stuff, done by the ever-reliable Tim Greiving (our own @Maestro) http://www.kusc.org/culture/arts-alive-blog/danny-elfman-violin-concerto/ Disco Stu, Once and crocodile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, TownerFan said: Great interview with Danny Elfman about his new Violin Concerto and other stuff, done by the ever-reliable Tim Greiving (our own @Maestro) http://www.kusc.org/culture/arts-alive-blog/danny-elfman-violin-concerto/ Gosh, I loved that interview! I always enjoy Elfman's self-awareness and forthrightness. I hope his violin concerto is recorded (and released) sooner rather than later! Too long a wait for "Rabbit & Rogue." I loved when he said, "I wanted to break out of the pops concert!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Danny Elfman is the RON HOWARD of film composers. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: RON. HOWARD.????!!!!! Geez, man, just because Howard and Elfman are both redheads you mix them up?! Gingerist! Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: And prepare yourself to learn how Han got the Millenium Falcon, met Chewie, met Lando, made the Kessel Run, said "I have a bad feeling about this" the first time and started wearing only b&w clothes. All on the same day. And you didnt think they were gonna do this when the directors of the Lego Movie and 21 Jump Street were directing? It seems like Howard will respect the script as written more than the 2 sacked hacks will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Nick1066 said: Danny Elfman is the RON HOWARD of film composers. A step too far. No matter what you think of Elfman's abilities, he has a style that is all his own. Nothing anonymous or generic about him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I had somehow not heard of this before! Really cool: Danny Elfman and LA Film Festival announce judges for 'Rabbit and Rogue' competition (from January) Quote Elfman introduced the Rabbit and Rogue Project in June 2016 as an opportunity for up-and-coming filmmakers to use selections from his "Rabbit and Rogue" album as inspiration and a soundtrack for their short films. The competition, produced in partnership with the LA Film Festival and Indi.com, allows filmmakers to use selections from Elfman’s “Rabbit and Rogue” and compete for the opportunity to premiere their film at the 2017 LA Film Festival. The LA Film Festival just ended yesterday, so presumably this is done now. But you can watch all the short films here: http://indi.com/laffdannyelfmanproject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Yeah, I heard about it a couple of weeks ago. Interesting thing to do. Hope they continue the tradition. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Looks like he's back working with Tim Burton again http://filmmusicreporter.com/2017/10/04/danny-elfman-to-score-tim-burtons-dumbo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Yeah, it's been on his slate for a while, but never confirmed untill now. Pretty expected, though. I think my own news piece about the Berlin Philharmonic Piano Quartet was more unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 On 23/06/2017 at 9:10 PM, Nick1066 said: Danny Elfman is the RON HOWARD of film composers. Elfman used to be quirky and interesting. Now he's Hollywood's utility man who comes in to clean up other people's unfinished work... like Ron Howard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted October 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Thor said: Yeah, it's been on his slate for a while, but never confirmed untill now. Pretty expected, though. I think my own news piece about the Berlin Philharmonic Piano Quartet was more unexpected. I think the question mark was: "Was Elfman's skipping Miss Peregrine's really a scheduling issue, or was there a rift?" Glad to see Elfman back with Burton, and for circus music no less! idril, Once and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Karol JWMike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Interview about the concerts. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebaltin/2017/11/29/why-danny-elfman-gave-up-the-stage-to-become-one-of-hollywoods-most-successful-composers/#419dcc772b2d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idril 86 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I've had a slightly cynical view towards Elfman for a while now (though I loved him years ago), especially since I wasn't mad about his work on Ultron and I've found him to just be a little less inspired overall lately. It has kind of given me a more negative view of him than I feel was fair. I have been putting together some 'best of' playlists of great composers on Spotify lately and so was skimming through Elfman's discography listening to various tracks. God, there really are so many classics. Such inventive melodies and exciting arrangements and he does have a distinctive voice, even if I feel he hasn't used it strongly enough in recent years. Batman Returns is a wonderful score (better than the first), Black Beauty is just so gorgeous, The Wolfman to me is a masterful score and so is Alice in Wonderland. I don't always think he nails it. I actually think the further he deviates from Tim Burtonesque sounds, the weaker he is as a composer. I am actually just not a massive fan of his action/superhero soundtracks post-Batman. His Hulk soundtrack is kind of bland for me, particularly because I think Craig Armstrong did a tremendous job of capturing the Hulk in music in comparison. Terminator Salvation is a bore. Of course Spiderman is good but I don't think I am as big a fan of it as most people beyond the theme itself. Anyway just really putting down my thoughts as I pondered my evolving perceptions of Elfman as a composer. I guess I think he is a wonderful composer when he is magical and weird and dark, but he is overshadowed by others when it comes to composing other types of scores. Still, he deserves recognition amongst the greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I like "Alice" fine but the theme is just Black Beauty Mk. 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 On 01/12/2017 at 1:41 PM, idril said: Batman Returns is a wonderful score (better than the first), Black Beauty is just so gorgeous, I prefer the first one. The second is wonderful, mainly the first half. On 01/12/2017 at 1:41 PM, idril said: I guess I think he is a wonderful composer when he is magical and weird and dark, but he is overshadowed by others when it comes to composing other types of scores. Still, he deserves recognition amongst the greats. I do not think his stuff for movies like "American Hustle", "Tulip Fever" or "Girl on the Train" are bad. Scores for dramas, political thrillers or even romantic comedies are naturally the least adored. However some composers can capture the public's attention with these genres. Thomas Newman, James Horner, Georges Delerue and John Barry are some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Which theme? Alice has three. Elfman tends to be a mixed bag, that's true, but to say his old stuff is good and the new stuff is bad is a great oversimplification. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, crocodile said: Which theme? Alice has three. Karol The one that sounds like Black Beauty mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: The one that sounds like Black Beauty I don't know what you mean. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 This Sounds like this I'm not saying Alice is bad or that it's a 100% copy of Black Beauty (obviously it's not). I just don't ever listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I can't hear it, honestly. Karol Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 hours ago, James said: I do not think his stuff for movies like "American Hustle", "Tulip Fever" or "Girl on the Train" are bad. Scores for dramas, political thrillers or even romantic comedies is naturally the least adored. Exactly. But this is usually where Elfman shines these days. As I wrote over at the Elfman boards: Quote I’ve NOT cared particularly for CHARLOTTE’S WEB, HELLBOY 2, TERMINATOR: SALVATION, WANTED, THE WOLFMAN, REAL STEEL, DARK SHADOWS, FRANKENWEENIE, IRIS, HITCHCOCK, MIB3, MR PEABODY & SHERMAN, EPIC, OZ, AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON, GOOSEBUMPS, ALICE 2 and JUSTICE LEAGUE (although several of them have had great, individual tracks). On the other hand, I’ve REALLY cared for THE KINGDOM, MILK, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, TAKING WOODSTOCK, THE NEXT THREE DAYS, RESTLESS, PROMISED LAND, SILVER LININGS PLAYBOOK, THE UNKONWN KNOWN, THE END OF THE TOUR, THE CIRCLE and TULIP FEVER. That’s why I won’t allow myself to have any expectations for stuff like THE GRINCH and DUMBO, even though the “thematic palette” might seem right up Elfman’s alley — on paper. I don't give a monkey's toss about Elfman's big blockbuster scores anymore. I want more of the indie stuff, where he truly shines. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I'd say his best stuff tends to be written away from film. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2017 Once, James and Disco Stu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, crocodile said: I'd say his best stuff tends to be written away from film. Karol IMO, they're very hit and miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, crocodile said: I'd say his best stuff tends to be written away from film. Karol 3 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Rabbit & Rogue. Yep. Better than any film score he's done in the past 10 years that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idril 86 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 3 hours ago, crocodile said: Which theme? Alice has three. Elfman tends to be a mixed bag, that's true, but to say his old stuff is good and the new stuff is bad is a great oversimplification. Karol Yeah the main 'Alice' theme - I guess the one that sounds like Black Beauty! Although I do find them different enough that I can enjoy them both. But yeah I for one don't want to say 'old stuff good' and 'new stuff bad', no way. I just don't find myself wanting to re-listen to the newer stuff as much as his older material. For the most part, I don't find it as unique or interesting. And I do have some problems with his later superhero scores. 3 hours ago, James said: I do not think his stuff for movies like "American Hustle", "Tulip Fever" or "Girl on the Train" are bad. Scores for dramas, political thrillers or even romantic comedies is naturally the least adored. However some composers can capture the public's attention with these genres. Thomas Newman, James Horner, Georges Delerue and John Barry are some of them. Of course it is easier to stand out with a big action or sweeping epic kind of score than these more intimate thrillers or romances but you're absolutely right that some composers have excelled at it. Thomas Newman is the perfect example and John Barry of course for the romantic ones. I don't dislike Tulip Fever actually but I never re-listened to American Hustle or Girl on the Train. Is it bad that I kind of like Fifty Shades though (the first one)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 hour ago, idril said: Is it bad that I kind of like Fifty Shades though (the first one)? If you just like of the music, no problem. idril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I plan to see the third one when it comes to Foxtel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Varese just announced on Twitter that they'll be releasing Elfman's Good Will Hunting digitally on December 29. Can't imagine it will have any more than Music Box's CD (and probably won't include the Elliott Smith songs), but something to keep an eye on I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 Wasn't the CD by Music Box Records already complete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 As far as I know - it even included a bunch of stuff that wasn't on the original promo, from what I can tell. But new music or no, this will be a legal way to get the score (MBR's 1500 run is OOP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 Ah, nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, mstrox said: As far as I know - it even included a bunch of stuff that wasn't on the original promo, from what I can tell. That is correct. Not "a bunch of stuff", but some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2018 Elfman's new concert work, a Piano Quartet written for the Berlin Philharmonic piano quartet ensemble, premiered a few days ago. Here's a couple of short reviews: Quote The most interesting piece in the program was a new quartet by Grammy award-winning composer Danny Elfman. Elfman, famous for his work with director Tim Burton in such films as “The Nightmare Before Christmas,” “Batman” and “Edward Scissorhands,” wrote the piece specifically for the Berlin Philharmonic Piano Quartet, this being his first attempt at this style of music. As expected, the piece was uneven and dragged in spots, yet it was still very impressive, considering that it was his first try. In comparison to the other three pieces performed, Elfman’s had a much more modern sound, similar to many of the other works in his repertoire. The overall mood was macabre and haunting, varying repeatedly between epic and sweeping to small and intimate. In its grandest moments, the music was fast and filled with terrific flare, and when it became smaller and quieter, there was a distinct feeling of unease, as if there was something dark festering beneath the surface of the theme. http://dailycampus.com/stories/2018/2/16/berlin-philharmonic-piano-quartet-showcases-their-virtuosity-at-jorgensen Quote The group is touring with a new piano quartet, composed for them by American film composer Danny Elfman. Its five movements, most divided into film cue-size chunks separated by brief pauses, moved kaleidoscopically through many moods. The second movement (“Kinderspott”) was built on the universal childhood taunt “Nyah-nyah,” while the brief fourth movement (“Ruhig”) undulated smoothly. The influence of oOther composers’ influence shone through, too, with barbaric-edged Shostakovich in the third movement and folklike hemiola patterns, recalling Brahms or Dvorak, in the fandango-fast finale. https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/berlin-philharmonic-helps-dumbarton-marks-40th-anniversary/2018/02/11/d79b19d8-0f42-11e8-a68c-e9374188170e_story.html?utm_term=.968b27eb1019 And here's a new interview with Elfman about the piece: http://journalstar.com/entertainment/movies/film-score-master-danny-elfman-to-debut-his-latest-classical/article_cc7a7a6f-1081-56bc-843a-3c42a6e2a4a9.html The ensemble is touring the US right now and will perform Elfman's work in all concerts. In other great Elfman's concert music news, the composer recently signed an agreement with Faber Music for the publishing of his scores. The Violin Concerto written for Sandy Cameron and premiered last year in Prague is already available to rent: http://www.fabermusic.com/repertoire/concerto-for-violin- You can also see the full score for perusal: http://scorelibrary.fabermusic.com/Concerto-for-Violin-and-Orchestra-Eleven-Eleven-33014.aspx In film-related news, Elfman also scored Gus Van Sant's latest film Don't Worry He Won't Get Far On Foot, which premiered at the Berlin Film Festival a couple of days ago. crocodile, Naïve Old Fart and Once 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 These are the type of project he tends to excel at these days. Whoever releases those has my money already. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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