Thor 7,493 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 12/25/2020 at 12:11 PM, Richard Penna said: He's as bad as Giacchino with persistence with his track names. Only Elfman would put The Final Confrontation in a family drama If memory serves, these tracks were not named by Elfman himself. I don't even know if the original promo had track names. I believe it was Christian Clemmensen or Ryan Keaveney or someone who named the tracks based on Elfman's frequent track names. Hence "Final Confrontation", "Weepy Donuts", "Jack's Lament", "Beautiful Day", "Promise" etc. Or "Anywhere....But Here", which is an in-joke fan reference to Elfman's score for that movie. But great score, overall. I should have played it this Christmas, but never got around to it. As for collection -- which seems to be where the discussion was going -- I have everything by him that is available in some form or another since the dawn of time. One of these days, I want to do another journey through his music - from beginning to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Which label would be likeliest to work on and release Family Man? Maybe Intrada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 19 hours ago, Thor said: But great score, overall. I should have played it this Christmas, but never got around to it. You still have time. After all, Christmas lasts until Easter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 Most composers have a big peak early-ish in their career where seemingly every score is great, and then after the peak there seems to be the random highlights in a sea of mediocrity or same-sounding-ness where the highlights being different for every fan. I guess Elfman is so different really, I love practically everything he did from '88 to '96 or so and then only a few things after really engage me: Wanted, Alice in Wonderland, Hithchcock, Through The Looking Glass would be my personal post-peak favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I'd say 96 to 05 is really the 'meddling' middle part of his career, with a few exceptions. But then from 2005 and the Serenada Schizophrana, he seems to have found inspiration, especially in the indie/non-mainstream films. The blockbusters/mainstream stuff seems completely bereft of inspiration (for the most part) since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thor said: The blockbusters/mainstream stuff seems completely bereft of inspiration (for the most part) since then. I'm sure money was a good inspiration for those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 We were talking about FAMILY MAN earlier. Here's my ol' CD-R of that, with custom design by Jim Titus (before he hit it big). Makes me long for a proper, commercial release: Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 The track numbers being inside their own little boxes reminds me of early 80s and 90s CDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Apologies if this was shared elsewhere. I can’t believe it flew under my radar in 2005 at the height of my score collecting in high school. I thought Elfman’s Scissorhands Ballet was only available in a few “sketches” he’s composed. But I came across this yesterday. It’s a nice adaptation of Elfman’s work and mannerisms. Anyone see the actual production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 I haven't seen the production, no, but I got the CD when it was released. Haven't played it very often, though, as I'm not that keen on the arrangements or the original music. Seems rather cold and detached and....I don't know, grating at times. If I remember correctly, Elfman was not personally involved in this. Matthew Bourne also used Herrmann's music in his stage adaptation of THE RED SHOES fairly recently. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LewWho95 14 Posted April 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2021 I relistened to Elfman's Justice League score in full a few days ago. If I'm honest, it's not as bad as people make it out to be (and even then I think most just dislike it because it doesn't use most of Zimmer's themes). It's actually quite good IMO. There's a lot of stuff that works. Steppenwolf's theme is amazing, the usage of the 89 Batman theme are great, Flash's theme is great, the orchestral version of the Wonder Woman theme is really good etc. It's a pretty decent score. I think it has a lot more going on musically than Holkenborg's score for the Snyder cut and is ultimately a better listen. Ollie, Edmilson and Matt C 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Elfman wrote some music for a Scissorhands ballet which did not come to fruition (demos are on the curios disc in the giant Burton/Elfman box). This other one didn’t involve Elfman. I have it and it’s fine but I don’t revisit it much. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenae 41 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I thought I would post this here, someone might find it of interest. Danny Elfman picked his top 5 composers of all time in a fairly recent poll: Bernard Herrmann, Philip Glass, Igor Stravinsky, Sergei Prokofiev and Dmitri Shostakovich. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Bit of a stretch to call Stravinsky a film composer, regardless of his influence on the medium and how often his music was used in film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenae 41 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I didn't say film composers, this is a list of his overall top 5 composers of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Aenae said: I didn't say film composers, this is a list of his overall top 5 composers of all time. I apologize, I misread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Aenae said: I thought I would post this here, someone might find it of interest. Danny Elfman picked his top 5 composers of all time in a fairly recent poll: Bernard Herrmann, Philip Glass, Igor Stravinsky, Sergei Prokofiev and Dmitri Shostakovich. Two Jews and three Russians. Where is the diversity!? 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Not a terribly surprising selection from Elfman. He's often gone on record to state his admiration for the Russians. Herrmann has obviously been a huge influence all his life, and Glass too, especially from the Serenada Schizophrana onwards. The only one missing, really, is Nino Rota. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 10/10/2019 at 12:51 PM, Disco Stu said: A new Elfman concert work, "Percussion Quartet" is premiering today, October 10th https://www.dannyelfman.com/new-commissions There is now a video of Elfman's Percussion Quartet you can rent for $5 or buy for $20 https://vimeo.com/ondemand/tcpliveinbigsur Tom Guernsey and Omen II 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Any good? @Thor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee 247 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 That's his percussion quartet. His percussion concerto is now due to premiere in 2022 (along with his cello concerto and another piece for the National Youth Orchestra). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 Ahhhhhh I see! Fixed my post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Right. The percussion quartet is nice. Percussion is Elfman's main instrument, so that's a great start. And then he gets to play around with various, Glass-inspired movements. It's the type of Elfman I prefer these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Couldn't find any thread, so it'll go here: Danny Elfman on Why He Was ‘Terribly Unhappy’ with How the ‘Batman’ Score Was Used Quote “I was terribly unhappy with the dub in ‘Batman’,” said Elfman, for whom the film marked his 10th score. “They did it in the old-school way where you do the score and turn it into the ‘professionals’ who turn the nobs and dub it in. And dubbing had gotten really wonky in those years. We recorded [multi-channel recording on] three channels — right, center, left — and basically, they took the center channel out of the music completely.” Elfman said that the dub was the result of trying to put more emphasis on the sound effects in the movie. “It didn’t have any care put into it. I’ve had many scores play in big action scenes that really propelled the scene. And in the end of the [‘Batman’] dub, I realized I could have had the orchestra play anything. I could have scored the film with some percussion, a harmonica and a banjo because all you hear are some percussion hits in big moments, but you can’t really hear what the orchestra is doing,” he said. But Elfman said that the experience provided him with a key lesson for dealing with music in Hollywood films. “That was my first lesson in how so-called professionals can take a score and the soundtrack to a movie and just do their thing in a very noncommittal way that is easiest for them; plunk it off to the side and just get the dialogue.” mstrox and MikeH 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Ask John Williams about sound effects level in movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 In other Elfman news, he seems to be in the process of tattooing his whole body. https://www.instagram.com/p/CORPJdABq4h/?igshid=2va2lgo76wn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Someone should make him aware of how many expanded soundtracks he could have bought for those money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Jews don't tattoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Thought this would be a good spot to share this. Very devoted fan creating a “Burton-verse” video game. Pretty impressive. Fantastic modeling. Music taps into an Elfman-feel. But doesn’t really lean into it:/ I’d say for copy right reasons they didn’t use the theme. But they mimicked everything else. Why not go whole hog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Little pieces are still missing, but I'm proud of my Danny Elfman collection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 The cello concerto is set to have its (Austrian? European? I'm never sure what EA is supposed to signify) premiere at the Wiener Konzerthaus next March: https://konzerthaus.at/konzert/eventid/59191 The programme also includes Korngold's Sursum Corda (the origin of his Robin Hood theme) and Stravinskys Firebird suite. Looks very much like something Mauceri would devise, but he doesn't seem to be associated with it. ChrisAfonso and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: The cello concerto is set to have its (Austrian? European? I'm never sure what EA is supposed to signify) premiere at the Wiener Konzerthaus next March: https://konzerthaus.at/konzert/eventid/59191 The programme also includes Korngold's Sursum Corda (the origin of his Robin Hood theme) and Stravinskys Firebird suite. Looks very much like something Mauceri would devise, but he doesn't seem to be associated with it. Fantastic news and cool program! The conductor is David Robertson, who is quite fond of film repertoire (especially JW). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Just purchased Fifty Shades of Grey score... I guess I'm becoming a fan boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 It's a good score! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Hourlong interview with Danny Elfman on the WTF podcast Interview starts at 12 minutes 25 seconds Also since I don't see it posted here his album Big Mess comes out June 11 Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Hourlong interview with Danny Elfman on the WTF podcast Interview starts at 12 minutes 25 seconds Also since I don't see it posted here his album Big Mess comes out June 11 Yeah, the BIG MESS album has its own thread. mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 That thread is a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Just purchased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenae 41 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I missed this, Danny Elfman apparently named his top 3 soundtracks of all time in an interview. I'm a bit surprised that Bernard Herrmann wasn't in his top 3 given that he is Elfman's favourite film composer: If you could choose a soundtrack for your life, which one would you choose? Elfman: "It would have to be like a tie bewteen Nino Rota's Fellini Casanova and The Godfather, and Ennio Morricone's Once Upon a Time in America. Some where in there. You'd think that Bernard Herrmann would be in the top of the list, because he's still my favorite composer. But just as actual listening soundtracks, those are my favorites. Because there's a difference between what I think is the best soundtrack in a movie and listening to a soundtrack album. If I had to take a soundtrack with me to a desert island, it would be those three." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I clutch my heart everytime someone names ONCE UPON A TIME AMERICA. Morricone wrote MANY a masterpiece; this ain't one of them. Maybe Elfman meant.to say OITW? GerateWohl and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenae 41 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Of Elfman's top 3 soundtracks of all time, I like Casanova by far the best. I think that's one of Rota's best. The Godfather is pretty good, but I don't care for that score on its own and always thought it was overrated. It isn't a favourite Rota score of mine. I do prefer Once Upon a Time in America over The Godfather, but I don't consider it to be Morricone's best work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Aenae said: I missed this, Danny Elfman apparently named his top 3 soundtracks of all time in an interview. I'm a bit surprised that Bernard Herrmann wasn't in his top 3 given that he is Elfman's favourite film composer. Yes, me too. I think I pointed it out back when this was published (in this thread or another, can't remember). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,356 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I am also not sure if I would like a Bernard Hermann score to be the soundtrack of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 C'mon, you'd love it! GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted June 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2021 Very nice and long interview with Danny: crocodile, GerateWohl, Once and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,356 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: C'mon, you'd love it! With my lockdown syndrom I expect to hear that shower music anyway everytime I leave the house. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 10 hours ago, bruce marshall said: I clutch my heart everytime someone names ONCE UPON A TIME AMERICA. Morricone wrote MANY a masterpiece; this ain't one of them. Maybe Elfman meant.to say OITW? Maybe he meant Once Upon a Time in the West? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Whether you agree or not, plenty of people think AMERICA is one of Morricone's best. It would hardly be a contrarian position for Elfman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,055 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: Maybe he meant Once Upon a Time in the West? Or The Untouchables? Because that's Morricone's best score. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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