Bayesian 1,359 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Glad to hear it was a good performance. And it looks like the philharmonie plays in a very remarkable hall, architecturally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Yeah it’s a great venue ! see here more a more in depth look https://decouvrir.philharmoniedeparis.fr/en/philharmonie Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Again a tremendous concert ! The simpsons as encore was also funny hahaha Yavar Moradi and Ollie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Could this family outing have what it takes for Danny Elfman to write a fun wacky score again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Does anyone know the deal with the OST version of the Main Title for Sleepy Hollow and why it's so different from the film version? Is it an earlier version? An arrangement specifically made for the OST? It's weird because I have the session leak, which has two versions of the main title, but neither are the OST version. I would really love for someone like a Matessino to do a proper specialty label release of this score. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 There's been a sheet music leak too, which indicates there's a 1M3R, maybe somebody can read it and help figure it out? This is as far as I got with a sheet/session/OST comparison back in the day https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FRehMLuLM8lGCaUNESIyUkTnASM3-B-Q_607Ol1aXdM/edit?usp=sharing Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jay said: There's been a sheet music leak too, which indicates there's a 1M3R, maybe somebody can read it and help figure it out? This is as far as I got with a sheet/session/OST comparison back in the day https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FRehMLuLM8lGCaUNESIyUkTnASM3-B-Q_607Ol1aXdM/edit?usp=sharing It's such a shame that Burton-Elfman collabs have just stopped coming out of specialty labels. It's just these 5, right? Mars Attacks: LLL 2009 Batman: LLL 2010/14 Batman Returns: LLL 2010/14 Planet of the Apes: LLL 2012 Edward Scissorhands: Intrada 2015 The Burton box is better than nothing, but still. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,322 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2019 Seriously, we need a nice specialty label Beetlejuice, Nightmare Before Christmas, and Sleepy Hollow, not to mention a properly completely Mars Attacks Yavar Moradi, ChrisAfonso and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I know the Burton box is an expensive paperweight, but is there anything really missing from Nightmare Before Christmas? He even arranged that one chronologically, if I recall. NBC is going to be the toughest one to release, presumably, because Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 Makes no difference if anything is missing or not. That wonderful scores deserves to be sold as a comprehensive specialty-lable-quality 2CD set with everyone in one nice package. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS was released in a "2CD package", although a great deal of the material on CD 2 was re-interpretations. Fun for curiousity's sake, but nothing more. The OST is all you ever need. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 As someone who hasn't listened to Sleepy Hollow in years, I would _love_ a special release of that one, and y'all know how I usually am with ol' C n' C'. I didn't think about it 'til y'all mentioned it, but it just feels right. What would a Nightmare Before Christmas album really need? There's a nice little Oogie Boogie cue in the movie unreleased, but it's like 40 seconds at most. I'm a huge sucker for demos and junk like that, which I think were released in the Burton box...I just don't know what would be exciting about a Nightmare Before Christmas release....unless...Mattesino gets Marilyn Manson to do covers of the whole score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 There's a bunch of score in the film that wasn't on the OST, plus the box set released all the songs without vocals which is cool too, cause you can combine them with the score cues to make an entire score album Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jay said: There's a bunch of score in the film that wasn't on the OST, plus the box set released all the songs without vocals which is cool too, cause you can combine them with the score cues to make an entire score album Hella cool! I remember doing the old phasing trick to try and get an instrumental Oogie Boogie's Song back in high school...not very fun. Did the box set put out any of the unreleased material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Did the box set put out any of the unreleased material? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jay said: What? When the album came out back in Anno Domini '93, there was music in the film that was unreleased. Were any of these unreleased tracks subsequently released on the Burton box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 The Elfman/Burton boxset is complete, as far as Nightmare Before Christmas goes, as far as we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I see. It's hard to imagine that score really having any alternates after the foundation was made with the songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 Yea, probably not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I bought the Elfman box because of that complete Nightmare Before Christmas. It’s perfect! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Jay said: There's a bunch of score in the film that wasn't on the OST, plus the box set released all the songs without vocals which is cool too, cause you can combine them with the score cues to make an entire score album No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 I wasn't talking to you Thor. Please allow every one to voice their opinion. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Am I the only one who doesn’t consider Nightmare to be his magnum opus or whatever? It’s great and essential and among my favorite Elfman works but I really don’t listen to it that much. Maybe because I didn’t like the movie much as a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 I don't listen to it that much either. I've listened to Batman, Returns, Mission: Impossible, Scissorhands, and Mars Attacks the most from Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Am I the only one who doesn’t consider Nightmare to be his magnum opus or whatever? No, same here. EDWARD is. But NIGHTMARE is my personal favourite of the two, and ultimately my favourite Elfman in general; the one that got me into this composer in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I was obsessed with the movie as a kid. One of the first scores I was aware of. Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 19 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Am I the only one who doesn’t consider Nightmare to be his magnum opus or whatever? It’s great and essential and among my favorite Elfman works but I really don’t listen to it that much. Maybe because I didn’t like the movie much as a kid. I don’t even have the score in my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 A new Elfman concert work, "Percussion Quartet" is premiering today, October 10th Quote A new Percussion Quartet composed by Danny Elfman for Grammy Award Winning Third Coast Percussion Ensemble. Premieres at the Philip Glass Days & Nights Festival. Big Sur, CA. Oct 10, 2019 https://www.dannyelfman.com/new-commissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 Damn he's decided to do a bunch of concert works late in his career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Damn he's decided to do a bunch of concert works late in his career! When John Williams was the same age as Elfman is now, he composed Saving Private Ryan. Think of the dozens of scores and concert works he's written since! Of course.... not every composer is John Williams Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Yes, I read about the percussion concerto on his Instagram account a few weeks ago. Looking forward to it; the glimpses I've heard sound like the marimba and xylophone stuff he did in the Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,675 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 1:45 PM, Disco Stu said: Does anyone know the deal with the OST version of the Main Title for Sleepy Hollow and why it's so different from the film version? Is it an earlier version? An arrangement specifically made for the OST? It's weird because I have the session leak, which has two versions of the main title, but neither are the OST version. I would really love for someone like a Matessino to do a proper specialty label release of this score. Must just be an alternate omitted from the sessions. Maybe it was a last minute change, recorded at a later stage? Neither the main titles nor the subsequent cue 'Walk Through Sleepy Hollow' matches the film. When I heard 'Main titles parts 1 and 2' from the box I actually assumed they'd somehow screwed up the versions and editing. Given that they're like that in the sessions too, it must be a genuinely alternate recording, with the actual film takes still not out there. Definitely needs a proper expanded treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Cover and tracklist for Elfman's Dolittle OST, which will include a song by Sia: 1. Original – Sia (3:34) 2. Opening (2:39) 3. Wonder (2:44) 4. Chess Match (2:17) 5. Revelry (1:16) 6. Lunchtime (0:39) 7. He’s Back (3:09) 8. Teamwork (1:46) 9. Betsy Chase (2:39) 10. Investigation (3:09) 11. The Voyage Begins (2:01) 12. Remembering Lily (0:53) 13. The Getaway (3:11) 14. Well Done Everybody (1:34) 15. Monteverde (5:03) 16. Pep Talk (3:14) 17. Onward (3:57) 18. The Dragon (3:48) 19. The Extraction (2:10) 20. We Belong Together (1:51) 21. Save The Queen (2:42) 22. Revelation (1:39) 23. Victory (2:20) 24. Dragon Indigestion (0:37) Seems like the kind of score he can write on his sleep, but anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Edmilson said: Seems like the kind of score he can write on his sleep, but anyway. Yes. I haven't cared for a mainstream, Hollywood blockbuster-type score from Elfman in decades, and I doubt this will be the exception to the rule. As I've said many times before, his strength these days lies in the indie or smaller films. But obviously, I'm checking this out. You never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Can we have another concerto instead, please? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Can we have another concerto instead, please? Karol I'm game! The violin concerto was wonderful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Just listened to "Opening" from the Dolittle score. Sounds exactly like Dumbo/Grinch/Oz/Alice. Which I don't think is exactly a good thing. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 From his fantasies scores this decade I mean, the last decade, I really like the first Alice in Wonderland. The movie is horrid, but I love Alice's Theme. His other scores, like Oz, The Grinch, Alice Through the Glass, Dumbo, etc., haven't caught my attention, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Well, his concert work has been terrific. But it has been a long time since a new Elfman score has grabbed me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Alice/Wolfman was a fantastic combo in 2010, but not much has gotten my attention since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I feel like I'm repeating myself endlessly, but there have been some great Elfman scores in his post-Serenada Schizophrana period, which is where I put a delineation (it's often been very Philipp Glass-ian since then): THE KINGDOM, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE, THE NEXT THREE DAYS, RESTLESS, PROMISED LAND, THE UNKNOWN KNOWN, THE CIRCLE, the violin concerto. All absolutely brilliant! But rarely in the big blockbuster scores. There are the occasional highlight pieces here too, in scores like ALICE IN WONDERLAND, THE WOLFMAN, REAL STEEL, DUMBO....but you'll have to search for it. This is why I really want to urge Elfman to stop doing these big movies -- despite his desire to have a versatile slate -- and focus on the smaller films, where his inspiration seems to flow effortlessly. Or do more concert works. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Big movies = big money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Big movies = big money It's not like he needs it. Elfman has said he does this kind of "mix" between big movies and smaller movies for the variety, but I seriously think he finds plenty of variety even within the smaller or indie films, enough to keep his musical exploration need occupied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I’ve honestly not ever heard of any of those 7 movies you listed. Small-time-dramatic Elfman just doesn’t sound pleasing to me. I thought I’d be happy with Justice League because of the rumors he included the OG Batman & Superman themes. But those were only 2-3 cues, and the rest was a mashup of the Age of Ultron theme. God, that score had so much potential. What a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thor said: It's not like he needs it. Well, that depends entirely on his consumption! If he's gotten used to a certain way of luxury life, it could be hard to leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 In other news, Elfman (and presumably an orchestra) is playing Coachella this year. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dead-mans-party-danny-elfman-set-to-be-the-breakout-star-of-coachella-2020-182626545.html Fargo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, mstrox said: In other news, Elfman (and presumably an orchestra) is playing Coachella this year. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dead-mans-party-danny-elfman-set-to-be-the-breakout-star-of-coachella-2020-182626545.html Indeed he is. The news made its rounds in social media (including Elfman's own Instagram and Facebook feeds) a few days ago. I would have loved to attend, but there's no way. Obviously, I'm extremely curious about what Boingo songs he'll play, and if he'll get his ol' band mates on stage. The film music section seems weird -- what kind of ensemble are we talking about here? 19 minutes ago, Fargo said: I’ve honestly not ever heard of any of those 7 movies you listed. Small-time-dramatic Elfman just doesn’t sound pleasing to me. I thought I’d be happy with Justice League because of the rumors he included the OG Batman & Superman themes. But those were only 2-3 cues, and the rest was a mashup of the Age of Ultron theme. God, that score had so much potential. What a waste. Well, if you're so displeased with his blockbuster/superhero output (a feeling I share, btw), I urge you to check out the titles I mentioned. Even if they "don't sound pleasing to you". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Playing the devil's advocate here, there's some stuff in Elfman's JL that I like. Some of the emotional material on Home and A New Hope were pretty good, reminded me of his Spidey scores that I like so much. And there's some funny action music on Tunnel Fight and Final Battle. It's not a masterpiece or anything, but far from the worse score ever made, like some weird Snyder fanboys thought to be. I probably liked more than Age of Ultron, although on that movie he was having to fill the gaps by Brian Tyler. Maybe if he was the composer on Ultron since the beginning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I don't even want to talk about JUSTICE LEAGUE. Superhero stuff = Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 It's a meh score, just that. Nothing as horrible as Snyder fanatics think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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