BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Are you saying you recognize Steef in Robocop?Well, yes!The Robocop theme even sounds like the Dutch national anthem, if you changed all the notes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Yes!Dead or alive, you are coming with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Nah!Dutch or alive, you're coming with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 "I'll buy that for a Guilder!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Not as far as i know.What a cowardly little hypocrite bitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Nice cussing son, what's your name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The LOTR are only true to the books on a basic plot level: situation A leads to situation B. I don't think the same spirit is there...at all, apart perhaps the Shadow of the Past sequence, which remains the highlight of the whole movie trilogyThere's a ton of genuine Tolkien backstory alluded to in the films, some of it directly, some of it only indirectly (clearly if you know it). Stuff of the sort that I didn't pick up until repeated readings. And except for a few serious blunders in ROTK, most of the changes totally work. Faramir for example, while seemingly ruined from his saintly book representation, is ultimately pretty much the same character in the film, but with an arc that brings out the Denethor/Boromir/Faramir backstory. In the extended cut, that is; in the theatrical version, he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 https://youtu.be/8El6AC7JXus Classic. Has Drax seen this? He's going to be thrilled!I've seen this movie before!Yes, but have you ever noticed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Backstory for its own sake sometimes is more a sort of fan service that an acurate translation of the spirit of the book. And I'm particularly repulsed by those "trailer-like" sentences said by the charaters throughout the movies, like "If you want him, come and claim him" (which I suppose it's PJ understanding of what "If you want him, come and get him" would sound like in Middle Earth), "The age of man is over, the time of the orc has come" or "The Battle of Helm's Deep is over, the battle for middle earth is about to begin". Or when Eowyn slays the witch king, where PJ used only the very first sentence "I'm no man", just for the sake of the "fuck, yeah!" moment, when the dialogue in the book was absolutely terrific.This is not a matter of not using the dialogue from the books verbatim. But those examples couldn't be further away from the spirit of the book. And they clash violently with those moments that do convey the spirit of Tolkien.Added to this, I really dislike PJ's instincts as a filmmaker (we have disagreed about King Kong in the past), and I can't help but seeing these movies as being disappointingly average. As much as I respect your opinions and tastes, Marion, which I sincerely think are far more educated and cultivated than my own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 "If you want him, come and claim him" (which I suppose it's PJ understanding of what "If you want him, come and get him" would sound like in Middle Earth), "The age of man is over, the time of the orc has come" or "The Battle of Helm's Deep is over, the battle for middle earth is about to begin". Or when Eowyn slays the witch king, where PJ used only the very first sentence "I'm no man", just for the sake of the "fuck, yeah!" moment,I love every one of those lines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Eh, the book's full of similar lines like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Give 10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 It's been years since I read it, but that sort of grandiloquent prose is all over Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings (and it's one of the main reasons many are turned off by the book). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 His will was set, and only death would break it...Paler indeed than the moon ailing in some slow eclipse was the light of it now, wavering and blowing like a noisome exhalation of decay, a corpse-light, a light that illuminated nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 By Elbereth and Luthien the Fair,' said Frodo with a last effort, lifting his sword, 'you shall have neither the Ring nor me!' I mean come on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Evocative!But it only works as written dialogue, not when spoken aloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 The use of a couple of gay fairie names makes it feel or poetic like.I don't see why a version of that wouldn't have worked as dialogue, other than being really cheesy. But those scripts are full of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Frodo's declaration on Mount Doom as he decides to take the Ring for himself is another great example of a line that just wouldn't translate well to spoken dialogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Jacko, Boyens and Walsh had to streamline all that long-windedness for film, obviously. Otherwise the dialogue of those scenes would have added up into minutes and even hours.I like how they still largely preserved the weight and eloquence of those passages when they made the necessary changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Are you doddering old fools still lingering over this ancient trilogy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Star Wars is still months off, so it's this or Watchmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 No! Let's talk about Fury Road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yes! When is the Blu-ray out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 It's already out! And the movie looks glorious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Oooohhhh!!!! I wants it...i needs it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 The game's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Fuck you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Because! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Oh fuck cars back then were gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sweeping Strings 2,351 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 The game's better.The game IS great fun, in fairness ... unlike other 'open world' games, I don't have the sense of dread with it that I don't stand a hope in hell of ever finishing it or the bafflement at just what exactly I'm supposed to do next (I remember experiencing that with both one of the Just Cause and Far Cry games). Misery - had been years since I'd seen this. Definitely in the higher class of Stephen King adaptations, with terrific lead performances from James Caan and Kathy Bates, decent suspense and a nice streak of black humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I'd give Misery 5 out of 5. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 You're the films #1 fan? Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I wouldn't go that far, no. But I'd rather watch Misery again than Max Max again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I just prefer story and characters over empty incessant action I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Fury Road was full of all those you mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Nah, it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Awhile back I watched 28 Hotel Rooms on Amazon Prime.I liked its simplicity and direction. Almost a collection of short films featuring the same characters, the story chronicles how these two strangers meet and hook up and then develop a years long affair solely in hotel rooms on their business trips. I think there is only one scene that isn't in a room, but in the hotel restaurant at the beginning, and then only a couple of establishing shots of airports, etc. It creates this really claustrophobic feeling of just seeing similar room after room, which coincides with how their relationship blows up over time. No names, no other characters, just Man and Woman. Nice little film with good performances from Chris Messina and Marin Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol - Finally caught up with the series (well, almost). Was really looking forward to this one, having loved the third installment and being assured by some folks around here (mostly Steef) that GP was better than MI:III. Which left me . . . disappointed. Not hugely; GP was a good movie, and a fitting entry in the series, but I didn't find it nearly as intense and enjoyable as the third. Which was a little baffling, since I've considered B.B. to be just about as good a director as J.J. in most situations. (If this is the tiebreaker, J.J. will walk away with the award.) I'm not sure what about it rubbed me the wrong way. It just seemed a little more . . . forced than the last one. It came off as trying too hard at times. The team wasn't nearly as interesting and engaging as the one in MI:III, with the exception of Jeremy Renner, who's connection story took things up a notch. (Simon Pegg was his usual, unchanging, Peggish self, but Ving Rames's absence was a sore blow—though I really enjoyed his cameo at the end.) The action wasn't as memorable, nor was the storyline. A good, but not truly great, entry in the series. (*** out of ****) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Are you sure you're not talking about J.J. Abrams' film? The only thing that stood out was a Vatican sequence. The other stuff had very little to do with M:I series. It's just a wrong type of story.Two films that followed it were infinitely superior and brought back the fun of original concept.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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