Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 The Rocketeer was a much better film. Those two films were obviously Disney's attempt to cash in on the success of Batman AKA the comic book movie. Bizarre choices, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 The Rocketeer was a much better film.Hmmm.. Don't agree.At least Dick Tracy is much more beautiful aesthetically.I know much of it is by design but Dick Tracy has to be one of the ugliest movies I've ever seen. My eyes can't bear to look at it.You must be joking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 It needs a remake. Something more dark and gritty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Dick Tracy did what Sin City does but then in color and without CGI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Elfman was a perfect fit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,175 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Dick TracyAnd I love Pacino's performance, although from what I understand it's from that moment on that every performance of his became a caricature? I think it's obvious that's they wanted Pacino to be their equivalent of Jack Nicholson as The Joker. But whereas Nicholson being over the top and insane was ridiculously entertaining, Pacino was just annoying. All he does is yell.Thats all Pacino has been doing since Scarface!No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,304 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 DriveI didn't like it. The opening getaway was a nicely done sequence, and then the setup of the rest of the story after that was pretty good for a while too. Then it just kept going and going and nothing was happening. And then finally stuff starting happening, and I didn't like it.For half the film Gosling is just a Hollywood stuntman, who happens to drive criminals around sometime for money. Then halfway through he's this fully trained fighting murderer who has all these skills and can murder without it worrying him at all. So he's basically emotionally detatched from the world, except when he decides he likes the girl, or when he feels the need to bash a guy's face into pulp long after he's averted the dangerous situation he's in?The plot is meaningless, it's just the same old criminals and double crossing stuff from a hundred movies. So you like or don't like the movie based on its style, and I didn't care for it. The slow parts were too slow, and the action parts were not exciting or cool or interesting.Tons of people love this movie but I guess its just not for me. Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I love Drive, it has a certain ambience, and the driver with his mysterious behavior kept me hooked. I thought it was a highly original crime film.There are also a couple of 80's styled songs that made me buy the dull Martinez score album, simply to have those tunes. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I was a big fan of Drive too, but it's not a movie I can watch repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I love Drive, it has a certain ambience, and the driver with his mysterious behavior kept me hooked. I thought it was a highly original crime film.There are also a couple of 80's styled songs that made me buy the dull Martinez score album, simply to have those tunes.Meh, Ant-Man is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,304 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Definitely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Oranges are better than apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Only if you're Dutch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Belgian fries are better than croquettes from Holland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Steef likes to take them out of the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Those look more like Bitterballen to me, which I'm having right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Bah, mayo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Heerlijk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Smerig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I was a big fan of Drive too, but it's not a movie I can watch repeatedly.I was really enthralled with it the first time I saw it, but I watched again with a friend soon after and it didn't hold up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Do you also know why or do you prefer not to think about it like TPG?Also, what did your friend think of it? Did he by any chance not like it all that much? I once heard that we always look a bit through that other person's eyes when we're not watching a movie alone.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 DriveI didn't like it. The opening getaway was a nicely done sequence, and then the setup of the rest of the story after that was pretty good for a while too. Then it just kept going and going and nothing was happening. And then finally stuff starting happening, and I didn't like it.For half the film Gosling is just a Hollywood stuntman, who happens to drive criminals around sometime for money. Then halfway through he's this fully trained fighting murderer who has all these skills and can murder without it worrying him at all. So he's basically emotionally detatched from the world, except when he decides he likes the girl, or when he feels the need to bash a guy's face into pulp long after he's averted the dangerous situation he's in?The plot is meaningless, it's just the same old criminals and double crossing stuff from a hundred movies. So you like or don't like the movie based on its style, and I didn't care for it. The slow parts were too slow, and the action parts were not exciting or cool or interesting.Tons of people love this movie but I guess its just not for me.I agree with you completely. The movie's a triumph of style over substance, and forgettable. The score was kinda cool though.--Fruitvale StationIt's too idealized in its portrayal of Oscar Grant. There's nothing wrong with emphasizing the man trying to turn around his life, but the director overplays his hand and glosses over the man's faults. Not to mention it doesn't dwell on the aftermath of the incident and the judicial system. The movie feels manipulative and pulls its punches.Michael B. Jordan and Octavia Spencer were great though. I'd like to see them play son and mother in a lighter project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Do you also know why or do you prefer not to think about it like TPG?Also, what did your friend think of it? Did he by any chance not like it all that much? I once heard that we always look a bit through that other person's eyes when we're not watching a movie alone.AlexI probably posted about it here at the time. I think a lot of the tension didn't work on the second viewing. I still love the opening sequence, and I like the western archetypes and story structure. I still want to see Only God Forgives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,304 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Yes, the opening sequence was just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Elfman was a perfect fit too. It's one of my favourite Elfman scores. Doubt he'd have it in him today to do another one like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Do you also know why or do you prefer not to think about it like TPG?Also, what did your friend think of it? Did he by any chance not like it all that much? I once heard that we always look a bit through that other person's eyes when we're not watching a movie alone.AlexI probably posted about it here at the time. I think a lot of the tension didn't work on the second viewing. I still love the opening sequence, and I like the western archetypes and story structure. I still want to see Only God Forgives.Similar kind of movie, I'm afraid. I remember fans of Refn loved it, but many critics who were into Drive, were disappointed this time. It's even more about style than Drive. I've never seen a Refn film more than once. I kinda like Valhalla Rising. That movie feels like a dream or a violent Terrence Malick film.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Watching Taken. Why is Liam Neeson hurting all these people in the movie? What did they do to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Great fun, that one. The sequel is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Apparently both sequels are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 In the first Taken, Liam looked like he could take on all these bad guys without much effort and looking good in the process.In the second Taken, Liam was disinterested, and by the time he had ended his revenge mission looked more than a little tired.Don't think I'll watch the second sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Star Wars V: The Empire Strikes Back. First, the positive things. I still find C3-PO hilarious and actually care about his fate. The same goes for Han Solo, it was so sad how they tortured and froze him. I'm starting to like Leia too, though to a lesser extent, she clearly has some thinking to do regarding who she fancies. Darth Vader was charismatic enough, though I knew all about the 'I am your father' scene already thanks to reading the 'how to post a spoiler' part in the FAQ section of this forum. The score was still not really my thing, though the imperial march is a very effective theme and I'm wondering why Williams didn't write that theme for the previous episode. The end credits suite sounded unlike the rest of the score, like The Throne Room did in episode 4. I'm definitely going to listen to the entire score. Lando's entrance featured good music too, and the surround sound was amazing.Then, the negatives. I'm sorry, but I just cannot care about Luke. He seems to be able to communicate with everyone using some (or the?) Force and Ben keeps communicating with him from someplace or another and then Yoda apparently overhears their conversations too. All he does is complain that he learned too much from Yoda already and he really needs to save his friends even though you can't even call the relationship between him and the rest a true friendship. Speaking of Yoda, he was great. Next week the next episode I will watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The score was still not really my thing, though the imperial march is a very effective theme and I'm wondering why Williams didn't write that theme for the previous episode. The end credits suite sounded unlike the rest of the score, like The Throne Room did in episode 4. I'm definitely going to listen to the entire score. Lando's entrance featured good music too, and the surround sound was amazing.You will need to leave JWFan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 May the force be with me in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 John Williams didnt write The Imperial March in Star Wars because he wrote a different theme for them, which is used there.Star Wars didnt require a omnipresent march like TESB did. which is a film about The Empire kicking ass and taking names.The end credit music really isnt very different from the actual film score. I dont know why anyone would think that. It features the 3 themes most featured in the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Wondering why Williams didn't write The Imperial March three years earlier is like worrying why we don't find our soul mates in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,175 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Wondering why Williams didn't write The Imperial March three years earlier is like worrying why we don't find our soul mates in high school.He should have written it for the shark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 For Jane Eyre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 He really should have just written all of his music for Mr. Chips and gotten it out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Isn't the Imperial March supposed to represent Darth Vader and/or his schemes? He was already bad and making schemes in A New Hope, wasn't he?As for the end credits, I was only able to listen to the first part so my comment wasn't representative, but it sounded very cheerful to me.PS: using the IM for Jane Eyre gives that girl a totally new dimension, lol. It could have worked had she decided to corrupt her pupils! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,304 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 You have a lot to learn about composing and the director/composer relationship.Wondering why a theme some composer wrote for one film for one director was not written for another film 3 years earlier for another directory is pretty silly thinking!Star Wars was essentially an expensive independent film by a young writer/director given great chances due to the success of American Graffiti. No one knew it was the start of any kind of franchise, let alone a $4 billion franchise. It was a sci-fi film from a viosonary director who thought it should have a classic score until convinced otherwise. The score written perfectly fits the relatively small scope of the film.It turned out to be a massive hit and when taking the small story that was there and creating a sequel for it, it was decided to expand the role of Darth Vader and this expansion shows in the music. Due to the face that Vader is hunting Luke the entire movie and the imperial fleet is squashing the Rebellion the entire movie, it makes sense to have a big grandiose march for this film. It wouldn't have been appropriate for Star Wars in 1977.That film doesn't need it. Williams wrote a perfectly acceptable theme for the imperials that is used effectively in many scenes. When you think about it, there aren't nearly as many scenes showing just the Imperials in SW and there are in TESB. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Jay you don't know anything. He should have written it before he wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I'm surprised the LSO was willing to work with a composer unversatile enough to make such a faux pas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 And why has Across the Stars been abandonded in ANH and ESB? Didn't Williams know that Vader was probably thinking of Padme at any given moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 If only...Senator Amidala were here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Star Wars, a small indie movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Was it a studio tentpole or some B-grade crap Fox got conned into allocating $10 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 There were no tentpoles back then. Just movies they took a chance on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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