Jay 37,355 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: ? Auto-correct butchered my post. Fixed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 Meet the Spartans Why? OH DEAR GOD, WHY?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Indeed! Why did you even start to watch? Why?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Indeed, why, indeed? and why, indeed, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Self flagilation? Atonement? Seeking a greater understanding of the suffering the Christ endured on the cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,358 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 ^Speaking of which, I heard during the week that Gibson confirmed plans for Passion 2 : The Christ Awakens (or whatever it'll be called). Have about as much interest in it as I did in The Passion Of The Christ - if I was into torture porn, there's plenty of it free on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 It will be called The Ressurection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 This time they are going after His followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,012 Posted September 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2016 Zodiac. Yeah, it is David Fincher's best film. No question about that. What I love about the film is how it never even tries to give you a katharsis or even form any traditional dramatic structure. And performances are all top notch. The Zodiac murders aren't even a central elements of this film (like Seven). It's just an excuse to explore different characters, the period and how mass media hysteria works. The Blu-ray picture transfer is gorgeous and the film has one of the 2000's very finest scores. Karol Koray Savas, publicist and Naïve Old Fart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Even though the attack on the couple on the hill happens in broad daylight, it still gives the creeps. A great film, with (as you say) a fantastic score. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Yeah, it is really unsettling scene. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 hours ago, crocodile said: Zodiac. Yeah, it is David Fincher's best film. No question about that. What I love about the film is how it never even tries to give you a katharsis or even form any traditional dramatic structure. That's why I never know what to do with it. Yes, the performances are great, and it's well made, but I still don't see the point of it all. Possibly my least favourite Fincher so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 To me it's kind of remake of All The President's Men (of which Fincher admits that it's one of his favorite movies). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 So it's a serial killer movie that isnt about the investigation to catch the serial killer? that's a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: That's why I never know what to do with it. Yes, the performances are great, and it's well made, but I still don't see the point of it all. Possibly my least favourite Fincher so far. I think it is about undoing the serial killer myth created by television and press. And also, in the same vein, undoing the film sub-genre that this myth helped to spawn (starting from Dirty Harry, for instance). As I said, it almost feels more about that than its central idea, if that makes sense. I applaud Fincher for his restraint and distance. And, at the same time, interesting characterizations. It wasn't the film I expected and that's a good thing. 11 minutes ago, Stefancos said: So it's a serial killer movie that isnt about the investigation to catch the serial killer? that's a bit weird. It is but the investigation goes nowhere. There are a lot dangling threads. Basically they decided not to dramatise the thing too much and only portray things that actually happened. Funnily enough, it makes a really strong film. Think Watchmen of the serial killer movies. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 14 minutes ago, Stefancos said: So it's a serial killer movie that isnt about the investigation to catch the serial killer? that's a bit weird. In much the same way that "WOTW", or "SIGNS" were not about an alien invasion of Earth, nor "SPY GAME" was about spying. I believe it called "cinema of the allegorical". 5 minutes ago, crocodile said: I think it is about undoing the serial killer myth created by television and press. And also, in the same vein, undoing the film sub-genre that this myth helped to spawn (starting from Dirty Harry, for instance). As I said, it almost feels more about that than its central idea, if that makes sense. I applaud Fincher for his restraint and distance. And, at the same time, interesting characterizations. It wasn't the film I expected and that's a good thing. Karol Yes. "ZODIAC" explores issues that come to fruition in "GONE GIRL". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 hours ago, crocodile said: I think it is about undoing the serial killer myth created by television and press. And also, in the same vein, undoing the film sub-genre that this myth helped to spawn (starting from Dirty Harry, for instance). As I said, it almost feels more about that than its central idea, if that makes sense. I applaud Fincher for his restraint and distance. And, at the same time, interesting characterizations. It wasn't the film I expected and that's a good thing. Well yes, and I appreciate the idea of making it about the non-progress of the investigation, but I just never have the feeling it works as a film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 So there are no scenes where the serial killer leaves tentalizing clues to his next victim? Of scenes where he calls one of the journalists and taunts him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 He does call a talk-show host... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: So there are no scenes where the serial killer leaves tentalizing clues to his next victim? Of scenes where he calls one of the journalists and taunts him? Zodiac was a real case and yeah all those things happened (and they inspired the plot of Dirty Harry, for instance). But, unlike most films, it doesn't really follow the thriller pattern. Probably because this case was never solved. It's more of a police procedural in a more literal fashion. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I love Zodiac so much. It's about the people who become obsessed with finding the killer more than it's about the murders themselves. It had easily my favorite Jake Gyllenhaal performance until Nightcrawler came out. Super cool movie. And yeah, the killer remains a mystery so by definition a movie about the Zodiac killer can't have a traditionally satisfying ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 We rewatched it recently, it holds up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jay said: We re-watched it recently, it holds up! Fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Did you watch the Director's Cut or the theatrical version? I missed it in theaters and have actually only ever seen the Director's Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I haven't seen Zodiac yet, but I may reach out to it this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 It's easily my favorite Fincher movie. The scene at the projectionist's house is terrific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Captain America: Civil War The action was impressive but it's too much of everything (and everyone) and nothing to really care about. Motivation or reaction of several characters was debatable. 3/10 Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Alexcremers said: Captain America: Civil War Motivation or reaction of several characters was debatable. 3/10 Alex Very much so. A step down after the rather excellent Winter Soldier I thought. Batman V Superman, flawed as it is is a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I agree. I could sorta go along with why Batman disliked Supes but in Civil War the disagreement felt forced so that comic geeks could see superheroes fighting each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Did you watch the Director's Cut or the theatrical version? I missed it in theaters and have actually only ever seen the Director's Cut. Theatrical cut is great and everything you need. Director's cut was unnecessary, but still fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Romão said: The scene at the projectionist's house is terrific Indeed! Awesome moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 See the theatrical cut of Zodiac in theaters and loved it. Recently saw the DC for the first time and the film holds up well. There isn't a huge difference between cuts, but the DC allows you to spend more time in its universe, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Lol...."universe" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 As if it's Star Wars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 The Zodiac cinematic universe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I love the World War 2 universe the most. The Longest Day, Cross of Iron, Downfall, etc. An awesome cinematic universe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Where Eagles Dare, Guns Of Navarone, The Battle Of Britain! Stirling viewing, sir! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Quintus said: I love the World War 2 universe the most. The Longest Day, Cross of Iron, Downfall, etc. An awesome cinematic universe! CROSS OF IRON is just brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 World War 2 cinematic universe > Vietnam. The place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Lee, have you watched THE BIG RED ONE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Quintus said: World War 2 cinematic universe > Vietnam. The place. You don't know man! You werent there! 4 minutes ago, Richard said: Lee, have you watched THE BIG RED ONE? He's been begging for years, but I won't send him pics of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Its THE BIG RED ONE not THE BIG RED ONE! Boys with toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 It's pretty big enough for most people, that's all I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 So what makes you think Lee is interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I'll spare him his blushes, but years and years of private messages on various formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Ah! The direct approach. I admire that from a man at JWfan. You don't really think you can have him, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 The Brexit made that impossible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,346 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 A beautiful mind. Stunning score, touching story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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