Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 It's like when I put up my harmless thoughts on Barry Lyndon, it provokes a stream of replies that are thinly veiled calls for disciplinary action by the moderators as if I was being abusive or something. This forum has been bitchier than normal lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 It's the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 ATT-I-CA! ATT-I-CA! ATT-I-CA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 37 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: It's like when I put up my harmless thoughts on Barry Lyndon, it provokes a stream of replies that are thinly veiled calls for disciplinary action by the moderators as if I was being abusive or something. This forum has been bitchier than normal lately. Fuck 'em, Jerry, it's only a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 So, as the joint finale of my Spielberg and Kubrick marathons: A.I. or Do Mechas Dream of Electric Bears? A bit confused, but not bad. The end is quite poetically bittersweet - the fake replica who was created to keep humans happy now gets a fake replica to be happy himself. That score! I'll need a listen or two to the whole thing on its own, but what I remember was wonderful. Soulful and beautiful without being overly sappy or boringly meandering. Sir Hilary Bray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Watched a few in the past month, recent forays include- Rollerball, Air Force One, Bridge of Spies, the '58 Dunkirk and culminating with Das Boot. The lattermost on Blu-ray. Far cry from when I had a VHS of it and the opening shot of the submarine approaching the camera was so murky (like my old Red October VHS) you were nonethewiser really if there was a sub there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 ...that's the 1975 ROLLERBALL, I sincerely hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 47 minutes ago, Holko said: So, as the joint finale of my Spielberg and Kubrick marathons: A.I. or Do Mechas Dream of Electric Bears? A bit confused, but not bad. The end is quite poetically bittersweet - the fake replica who was created to keep humans happy now gets a fake replica to be happy himself. That score! I'll need a listen or two to the whole thing on its own, but what I remember was wonderful. Soulful and beautiful without being overly sappy or boringly meandering. Bittersweet? I think the ending is horrifically dark. I mean, a masterpiece, but hoo boy that's a dark ending masquerading as (at least slightly) happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I think the ending is horrifically dark. In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: In what way? If you're thinking about the symbolic meaning, that humans in our search for meaning prefer coddling fantasies of eternity spent with an idealized, non-existent "parent" to reality. Don't forget that version of his mother is a complete fabrication, not what the actual woman was like at all. Our insistence on projecting parental titles onto deities comes to mind... Anyway, that movie is like a rich supper of possible interpretations. Lots to dig into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 9 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Sorry, but then you're an idiot as well. Well, let me rephrase that, only an idiot would think that I took "Did you watch it from behind the tele?" literally. The reason why my reply was longer than usual is because of the posts that followed and that suggested that I don't understand Kubrick's movies and must therefore watch them more than once. I wanted to make clear that my 'multiple viewing and changing my opinion on them' has nothing to do with 'getting' what the 2001: ASO or Eyes Wide Shut are about. I might even change my opinion and still don't know what they are mean. I love that (some) movies are prone to interpretation. In fact, I don't need answers. Whether we're talking movies or music, giving meaning and making things clear-cut are never a priority for me. I will always prefer 'ambiguity'. Storm in a tea cup anyway. But if it makes you feel any better, I'm currently on my hols with the family and last night I was taking some respite away from their noise by sitting in the lounge bar (the only place I can get some WiFi), and by the time I ventured onto JWFAN I was already pretty much hammered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 God, is this still going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 It's like one of Drax's ailments! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Your willy is no longer working right? Probably just the booze, give it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Surely you haven't forgotten the old bickerings and arguings about who killed who here? The golden era of JWFan, long before your Disco Stus, your Jurassic Sharks and even your BloodBoals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: If you're thinking about the symbolic meaning, that humans in our search for meaning prefer coddling fantasies of eternity spent with an idealized, non-existent "parent" to reality. Don't forget that version of his mother is a complete fabrication, not what the actual woman was like at all. Our insistence on projecting parental titles onto deities comes to mind... Anyway, that movie is like a rich supper of possible interpretations. Lots to dig into. I see whachu mean and agree, but I prefer to see the ending more intimately, in scope. Williams doesn't talk too much on the themes of the films he scores, but his interpretation of the ending is beautiful. If I remember correctly, David has the only dignified, dare I say "human", death in the film. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I used to be so healthy last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 42 minutes ago, Quintus said: Surely you haven't forgotten the old bickerings and arguings about who killed who here? The golden era of JWFan, long before your Disco Stus, your Jurassic Sharks and even your BloodBoals. Infidel! There's only one Jurassic Shark. Not two, nor zero, nor many. Only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 More than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I suppose that was a reaction to the gritty unglamorous turn Hollywood briefly took in the early 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I suppose that was a reaction to the gritty unglamorous turn Hollywood briefly took in the early 70s. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Richard said: ...that's the 1975 ROLLERBALL, I sincerely hope? It is yes. I've not watched the remake nor likely to. Any film with Shane Rimmer and Buck Rogers' Pamela Hensley isn't entirely bad. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Shane Rimmer has the most important line, in the film: "Game?! This was never meant to be a game!" Sir Hilary Bray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Games? Must we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Don't hurry, I'll just catch up on my reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 No I didn't borrow Laura's Mercedes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Hey, it's me. Sing your song at the beep. Beep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 When ya hear the beep, start talkin'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted September 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2018 One of several noteworthy realist british films én vogue between the late 50's and 60's, the dark psychological drama of 'The Whisperers' stands and falls with Dame Edith Evans portrayal of a delusional, sad old woman, and it's quite a performance. An impoverished elderly working class woman, abandoned years before by her no-good husband and son, lives in a world of paranoid delusions - hence, the whisperers of the title, who 'live' in the walls of her apartment - and while the crime story that reunites and separates her from her husband again is basically a contrivance, the awfully drab and rundown housings, filmed in b/w near Manchester, create a most haunting effect with Evans aimlessly wandering around the brickwalls. The story finds a touching resolution (alone again, Evans enters her flat and asks 'Are you there?', now with the added pathos that the whisperers again have to substitute for her human loss and now may have finally taken over). John Barry's somber, melancholy chamber score hits all the right moments. It's not an awfully important movie, but the images and Evans sad, spaced-out looks make it a very memorable one. Quintus, Sir Hilary Bray and Naïve Old Fart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Hey Pub, how many movies have you seen? I want to see if I can beat your record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 How would i know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Death on the nile 1978. Quite good, overall. My favourite actors were Mia Farrow, I.S. Johar and of course Angela Lansbury. She was just amazing, though Farrow in angry mode was great as well. I daresay I prefer Peter Ustinov to David Suchet and my suspicions regarding the identity of the killer turned out to be true, though I couldn't possibly have guessed how complicated the entire case turned out to be. The final twist is quite anti-climactic as well. This was my first Nino Rota score, though I already knew his gorgeous love theme from The Godfather. The score was mostly okay, if a little too bombastic, but he relied on the main theme too much and lots of scary moments weren't scored at all. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Solid, but doesn't hold a candle to Lumet's Orient Express. Right, @Richard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I found the 1978 movie more entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 59 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Solid, but doesn't hold a candle to Lumet's Orient Express. Right, @Richard? Right, @Stefancos! MOTOE is - pardon the pun - absolutely first class. From Richard Rodney Bennett's score, to Geoffrey Unsworth's lush cinematography, the film is a pure delight. I know that DOTN has its fans, and I'll be interested to see what our Ken does with it, but MOTOE is the dogs bollocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 The only way I could find Jacob's Ladder in my area was on laserdisc, so now I own a laserdisc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 It's worth it to see that broad get rammed up the butt and out the mouth by a snake creature with a horn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: It's worth it to see that broad get rammed up the butt and out the mouth by a snake creature with a horn. Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 8 hours ago, Richard said: Right, @Stefancos! MOTOE is - pardon the pun - absolutely first class. From Richard Rodney Bennett's score, to Geoffrey Unsworth's lush cinematography, the film is a pure delight. I know that DOTN has its fans, and I'll be interested to see what our Ken does with it, but MOTOE is the dogs bollocks! Right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I find both expansive, entertaining larks that do not differ from each other all too much (i prefer Rota's main theme, tbh). After that, the series fell on hard times. 'Evil under the Sun' is acceptable-if-threadbare, the later ones piss-poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Bram Stoker's Dracula Finally got to check this beast out. Coppola throws a lot on the senses, delivering a dreamy phantasmagoria of blood, sex, and monsters. It would be easy to dismiss the film for its messy storytelling, hammy performances and Keanu Reeves, but the film feigns a certain method to its madness. It's like the most vivid of nightmares, the kind that stays well with you after you've woken up. Shadows dance behind characters, Oldman's eyes haunt the skies from vast distances, lights shift from extreme ends of the spectrum against matte backdrops and miniatures, all within the same frame. Every trick in the book is pulled here. And no one could pretend this is subtle stuff, this is impressive, sincere old-school film-making. I think the last film that tried something of this scope on a production level was The Fellowship of the Ring. It's a glorious, over-the-top mess, that you can't tear your eyes away from! And I can't stress how vital Kilar's score is the whole thing. Screaming choirs, low double-octave piano tankering, eastern European fiddling, dreaming string cadences galore; it oozes the gothic eroticism that Coppola was trying to go for, and without the music, the film would not have been nearly half as effective. Oh, and Winona Ryder was quite the beauty, in her heyday. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Its beautifully realized grand guignol pulp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, KK said: Oh, and Winona Ryder was quite the beauty, in her heyday. That is all. I'll second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Ryder was a 10 out 10 in her day. She's still very beautiful now. Dixon Hill and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 She was too classy for that vulgar trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Isn't she a bit mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 She got done for shoplifting, but, at L.A. prices, I almost don't blame her. @Quintus is right: she's still blooming gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I think she robbed the store in New York City. Rascal! She needs to be locked up and shackled for her crimes. Around the time that shoplifting occurred, she was blacklisted and replaced by the first clone, Natalie Portman, who spawned Kiera Knightly and Rose Byrne. Always (1989) Directed by some guy I used to really admire. I still revisit his older stuff and return E.T. to the Green Planet for him even though he's turned to the dark side. This is a great film. It may be my favorite of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 16 hours ago, KK said: Bram Stoker's Dracula It's a glorious, over-the-top mess, that you can't tear your eyes away from! And I can't stress how vital Kilar's score is the whole thing. Screaming choirs, low double-octave piano tankering, eastern European fiddling, dreaming string cadences galore; it oozes the gothic eroticism that Coppola was trying to go for, and without the music, the film would not have been nearly half as effective. I know i will be stoned for this but, Tony Manero hairdo and all, i absolutely prefer the Badham/Langella/Williams reading. It has flashes of gaudiness as well, but the whole scenery has the necessary british reserve - and great matte work - , the score is sublimely over the top romantic (ESB drew heavily from it) and compared to the skimpy Hammer sets it looks ravishing. Coppola is artistically more bold, but that's not necessarily a recommendation. The movie lost me when Reeves arrived in Transylvania and suddenly the whole thing turned Mel Brooks, with excessive wolf howls and all. It's kind of fun to watch, but doesn't get me in a Dracula mood at all. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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