Bespin 8,480 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I "tried" to watch the first Dracula movie with Bela Lugosi... and I stopped it... The "beauty shots" using a different lightning and pose, clumsily inserted between two long shots.... It killed me, after two or three times it occured in the first minutes of the movie... Maybe I just have to lower my expectations... these are old movies... not always very well made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: You're watching it together with Boris Karloff? You lucky bastard! He and I are old friends. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 @Bespin It's not the first Dracula movie, Bes, but I know what you mean. It does have a "filmed play" look about it, and for good reason. The 1979 version is, also, based on the same play. Also, it conforms to a 1930s aesthetic. Try its companion film, FRANKENSTEIN: it's much better. The shot where Karloff backs into Frankenstein's study, and then turns around, is one of the greatest shots in all of cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I "tried" to watch the first Dracula movie with Bela Lugosi... and I stopped it... The "beauty shots" using a different lightning and pose, clumsily inserted between two long shots.... It killed me, after two or three times it occured in the first minutes of the movie... Maybe I just have to lower my expectations... these are old movies... not always very well made... The first Dracula is experimental. Its a silent movie with sound essentially. It seems slow. The spanish film is better but the Dracula always looks like he is farting. Frankenstein is superior. The Invisible Man is a hoot. The Mummy is amazing. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Mean Girls A comedy classic that holds up 17 (!) years later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Dave had me watch it recently. I liked it okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,351 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 18 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's the worst of the three original Harry Palmer films, but, you're right: it's fun I enjoyed it and The Ipcress File, but found attempting to follow the welter of double-crosses, betrayals etc in Funeral In Berlin very tiresome. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I like all three original films (I have not seen any of the others), but THE I.P.C.R.E.S.S. FILE is a brilliant piece of work. The framing, the score, the laconic, world-weary performance, by Caine: it's just fantastic, and it's a very rewatchable film. Nothing in the series beats the "Oh, shit!" moment, when Palmer escapes, and finds himself... Well; spoilers, in case of those who are yet to savor its delights "Now, listen to me, Palmer. Listen to me". Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,351 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I once said of it 'Palmer's London isn't 'swinging', it's barely swaying'. I rather like that it's not the typical portrayal of the capital in the Sixties. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 You're right: GEORGIE GIRL, it is not Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riotengine 3 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Today, I watched Ready Or Not (2019). It's got a streak of black comedy through it with a nice Brian Tyler score. Samara Weaving is quite attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,424 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 The Machinist AKA the movie that almost made Christian Bale kill himself. In a way, I guess Christopher Nolan and Batman Begins literally saved his life. It's a great psychological thriller, well directed and with great performances. Roque Baños' score is clearly inspired by Bernard Herrmann's work on Hitchcock movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Ok, at 47 yo, I think I'm ready. I did it. I'm ready to discover the origins of horror! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Bespin said: Ok, at 47 yo, I think I'm ready. I did it. I'm ready to discover the origins of horror! Gadzooks! Good luck! No Bride of Frankenstein? Continuing through the long ago days of 2019: The Gentlemen That was a lot more subtle than I was expecting. (I was expecting zero subtle.) An entertaining film. A tremendous opportunity for Hugh Grant. Well done, sir. I might need to track down The Man From UNCLE now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I'll receive my Horror 21-DVD set tomorrow, my plan is to watch those first: Dracula (spanish version) (1931) Frankenstein (1931) The Mummy (1932) The invisible Man (1933) Bride of Frankenstein (1935) Werewolf in London (1935) Son of Frankenstein (1939) The Wolf man (1941) Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943) The Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954) Revenge of The Creature (1955) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Tallguy said: I might need to track down The Man From UNCLE now. Do so it's extremely fun, subtle and really underated too. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,424 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Never watched the 1930s/40s Mummy move, but from the ones I did watched: The Mummy (1999) > The Mummy (animated series) > The Mummy Returns (2001) >>> > Tomb of the Dragon Emperor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (abyss)>>>>>>>>>> The Mummy (2017). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Edmilson said: Never watched the 1930s/40s Mummy move, but from the ones I did watched: The Mummy (1999) > The Mummy (animated series) > The Mummy Returns (2001) >>> > Tomb of the Dragon Emperor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (abyss)>>>>>>>>>> The Mummy (2017). Put the abyss before Tomb of the Dragon Emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Bespin said: I'm ready to discover the origins of horror! These are good films, Bes, but "the origins of horror"? Think not. Check out NOSFERATU, THE GOLEM and THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: These are good films, Bes, but "the origins of horror"? Think not. Check out NOSFERATU, THE GOLEM and THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI. Sorry, I read some older posts of JWFAN a moment ago, and now I think I truly found the origins of horror! A24 and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 That was Richard's glory days. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 10 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Put the abyss before Tomb of the Dragon Emperor. Nah The Abyss is better than all of them Edmilson and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Sorry, I read some older posts of JWFAN a moment ago, and now I think I truly found the origins of horror! Wha'..?! Cheeky monkey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Oh wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 FRANKENSTEIN is better, and BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN is even better than FRANKENSTEIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Never liked ancient horror, not even as a kid. Too dated! Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 The films might be dated, but, when it comes to FRANKENSTEIN, and BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, the themes aren't dated, at all. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,351 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Any version of Dracula that's a shorter experience than the overlong dull plod of reading the novel (as I discovered last year) has gotta be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Beauty and the Beast (2017) Yep, still an unnecessary cash grab. The cast and crew can insist how reverential it is to the FAR superior 1991 animated film, but that just makes it look even worse. I probably would've looked more fondly on this film if Emma Watson could sing -- but she can't. And that kills the film for me since EVERYONE else can sing circles around Hermione Granger. The film is only worthwhile to hearing Alan Menken's exploration and expanding upon his themes from the 1991 film and Broadway version. The larger orchestra really makes "Transformations" sing compared to the 1991 recording. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt C said: Beauty and the Beast (2017) Yep, still an unnecessary cash grab. The cast and crew can insist how reverential it is to the FAR superior 1991 animated film, but that just makes it look even worse. I probably would've looked more fondly on this film if Emma Watson could sing -- but she can't. And that kills the film for me since EVERYONE else can sing circles around Hermione Granger. The film is only worthwhile to hearing Alan Menken's exploration and expanding upon his themes from the 1991 film and Broadway version. The larger orchestra really makes "Transformations" sing compared to the 1991 recording. And I love Evermore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 So basically, I agree with all the critics and fans (and @JoeinAR)... The English version of Dracula (1931) is experimental compared to his spanish version (filmed at the same time, in the same sets). But I still don't understand the hype about Bela Lugosi. And I just learned that he portrayed Dracula only... in two movies. So I really don't understand. Anyway, I just understood the hype about a real legend... Boris Karloff. I just saw the first Frankenstein... Oh yeah... wow!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Bespin said: I just saw the first Frankenstein... Oh yeah... wow!!! "The themes ... THE THEMES!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Bespin said: @JoeinAR). I just saw the first Frankenstein... Oh yeah... wow!!! Wait until you watch the sequel 9 hours ago, Bespin said: @JoeinAR) ...I just understood the hype about a real legend... Boris Karloff A true English gentleman 9 hours ago, Bespin said: @JoeinAR) But I still don't understand the hype about Bela Lugosi. And I just learned that he portrayed Dracula only... in two movies. So I really don't understand. Bela Lugosi's dead. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Bela Lugosi's dead. No one gives two sh*ts for Bela. (Although the more I've read about Lugosi the more I hate the movie Ed Wood. Even more so since it's an amazing movie.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 21/09/2021 at 3:18 PM, Sweeping Strings said: Any version of Dracula that's a shorter experience than the overlong dull plod of reading the novel (as I discovered last year) has gotta be a good thing. The Powers of Darkness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 10 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Bela Lugosi's dead. 3 hours ago, Tallguy said: No one gives two sh*ts for Bela. (Although the more I've read about Lugosi the more I hate the movie Ed Wood. Even more so since it's an amazing movie.) Perhaps you are too young to get the joke? On 21/09/2021 at 2:18 PM, Sweeping Strings said: Any version of Dracula that's a shorter experience than the overlong dull plod of reading the novel (as I discovered last year) has gotta be a good thing. BLACKULA? DRACULA 2000? LOVE AT FIRST BITE? These are better than the novel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 The Frankenstein makeup has stood the test of time. But it looked its very best in the original Frankenstein. It is film genius. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Perhaps you are too young to get the joke? Nope. Bauhaus, right? But it's hard for me to hear the name Bela Lugosi OR Boris Karloff without quoting Ed Wood in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Karloff? Sidekick? FUCK YOU!!! Karloff does not deserve to smell my shit! That Limey cocksucker can rot in hell, for all I care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I'm in a horror marathon. The Forsaken... inexplicably it went off my gaydar when it came out in 2004. Awwwww... And with Simon Rex... I'm kidding, that's an underrated movie, in the lignée of The Lost Boys. Very interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Has anyone made an edited version of Raiders of the Lost Ark that completely removes Indiana Jones? Since everything would’ve been fine without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I'm in a horror marathon. The Forsaken... inexplicably it went off my gaydar when it came out in 2004. Awwwww... And with Simon Rex... I'm kidding, that's an underrated movie, in the lignée of The Lost Boys. Very interesting! It's a SFYW movie Safe For Your Wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Has anyone made an edited version of Raiders of the Lost Ark that completely removes Indiana Jones? Since everything would’ve been fine without him. Well... Marion would have most likely died at the hands of the Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 The Mummy was fun, but a big long. 5ft 11 of grrrrrrr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,351 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 16 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: BLACKULA? DRACULA 2000? LOVE AT FIRST BITE? These are better than the novel? Can't say I've seen those. Isn't Dracula : Dead And Loving It also regarded as not being one of Mel Brooks' better efforts? Get Carter - London 'wide-boy' Jack Carter (Michael Caine) goes to Newcastle to investigate the death of his brother, and is soon caught up in a very murky web indeed. Somewhat of a gritty crime classic, with the on-location filming providing substantial evidence that it really was 'grim up North' (well, in the early Seventies anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Tallguy said: Well... Marion would have most likely died at the hands of the Nazis. Alright, so we're looking for a version without Indy's theme and without Marion's theme post The Medallion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 14 hours ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Has anyone made an edited version of Raiders of the Lost Ark that completely removes Indiana Jones? Since everything would’ve been fine without him. ...except that they would have never have found The Ark of the Covenant, because Belloq's staff was too long. The film needed Indy, and the medallion, to find the correct location of the Well of the Souls. 3 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: Get Carter - London 'wide-boy' Jack Carter (Michael Caine) goes to Newcastle to investigate the death of his brother, and is soon caught up in a very murky web indeed. Somewhat of a gritty crime classic, with the on-location filming providing substantial evidence that it really was 'grim up North' (well, in the early Seventies anyway). Hell, yeah!!! This is one of Caine's finest, and most nuanced, performances. Sweep, I'm surprised that you didn't mention Roy Budd's superb score. Ps, it's still grim, up north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,514 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: ...except that they would have never have found The Ark of the Covenant, because Belloq's staff was too long. The film needed Indy, and the medallion, to find the correct location of the Well of the Souls. Nope, they were digging all over the place, sooner or later they'd have looked in that building too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 You don't know that. Fact is, they'd been out there, for months, and hadn't found, shit. Indy comes along, and finds it, in five minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,351 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Hell, yeah!!! This is one of Caine's finest, and most nuanced, performances. Sweep, I'm surprised that you didn't mention Roy Budd's superb score. Ps, it's still grim, up north Dammit, after posting I honestly did think 'Ah crap, shoulda mentioned Roy Budd'. I think the film's most important message that just because you're on the trail of your brother's killers it doesn't mean you shouldn't get laid about as often as Bond does in the course of one of his missions, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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