Bespin 8,480 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Yesterday I watched My Friend Dahmer (2017). It's a movie based on a "comic" created by a high school classmate of Dahmer, published few years before, and based on cartoons he started at the time of events: I prepared myself to watch this movie by watching this documentary first: Fresh Meat - Jeffrey Dahmer (2021). What to say. Dahmer raped, murdered, and dismembered at least 17 men and boys in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, between 1978 and 1991. He was convicted of fifteen of the murders he had committed in Wisconsin and was sentenced to fifteen terms of life imprisonment on February 17, 1992. The movie relates the last high school years of Dahmer, between somewhat 1975 and 1978. If at the begining of the movie, it's clear that Ross Lynch "overplay" a bit... we quickly discover a tragic story about the "loneliest teenager in the world"... ignored not only by all his environment of the late 70s (e.g. other people of his age at school), but especially by all the adults around him (not only his parents, but the teachers, everyone). There's no question of abuse, it's a question of a teen being completely ignored. That's it. The watching of this movie leaved me with an horrible feeling of loneliness. It's a very intimate and slow movie, like I said, it's based on a story related by a classmate... After the movie, I watched some interviews Dahmer gave later, after he was put in jail. He always refused to blame anyone for his acts, the society, not even his parens, he always said he was the only one responsible for the wrong turn he took. And what a bad turn. Anyway, it is not a film that tries to make the character sympathetic to us, he is not, nor to excuse what he has become. But it’s a film about a specific era, a specific milieu... and how at puberty, everything can mix in the mind of a lonely teen. Next, I plan to watch the new Netflix series, which I think will obviously focus on the macabre parts... Well, it's Netflix. What's fascinates me in these true crime stories, it's okay... the killers were mad, really mad... but they got away with murder... only with the help of a completely incompetent milieu... Here I talk about the police, the justice system, often... witnesses, family members that often knew someting, but never talked... That's what's fascinating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 The Netflix miniseries is pretty good with an impressive Evan Peters playing Dahmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Geez, Louise, can't someone make a good movie about nice people, instead of fleecing the general public out of so much money, with murder, death, casual destruction, horror, violence, serial killers, slackers, misfits, disturbed children, endless MCU/DCEU, remakes, or rinsing heritage franchises? Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Things that are good are soon told about, but not much to listen to or watch; while things that are uncomfortable, palpitating, and even gruesome may make a good tale, and take a deal of telling anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 One of Dahmer's favourite movies was Return of the Jedi. That's great general public entertainment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,358 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 10 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Geez, Louise, can't someone make a good movie about nice people, instead of fleecing the general public out of so much money, with murder, death, casual destruction, horror, violence, serial killers, slackers, misfits, disturbed children, endless MCU/DCEU, remakes, or rinsing heritage franchises? The Guardian pondered if the Netflix Dahmer thing was the most exploitative piece of TV of 2022 so far and said it was 'almost queasily unwatchable'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 It's very watchable and it doesn't glorify Dahmer, creeps or serial killers! I guess most critics are still too much entranced by Strange Things 3 or Obi Wan. Sigh ... 18 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Geez, Louise, can't someone make a good movie about nice people, instead of fleecing the general public out of so much money, with murder, death, casual destruction, horror, violence, serial killers, slackers, misfits, disturbed children, endless MCU/DCEU, remakes, or rinsing heritage franchises? Well if this is what you want, then Modern Love is exactly what the doctor ordered. You can watch it on Prime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Horror movie of the day! Hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Hideous score! Naïve Old Fart and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Ewwwwwww. I'll watch Always a hundred times (and I have) before I watch Hook again. There are far worse Spielberg films than Always. I'm not sure that there are worse movies than Hook. Someday I'll force myself to watch The Post. I'm willing to bet my opinion won't change. (Tintin might be in the running.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 As I rewatch Hook being older... I realize it's more a movie for a grown up Peter Pan than for a young one. Several scenes from the begining of the movie are now very moving and yes, the music is always better and better. Then it remains a movie with a lot of technical problems, like the transitions (or the lack of) between some scenes and some very odd special effects (even for the time). But like I said... I was moved by it, like never I was before... and watching it for the first time in Blu-ray for me, was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 "Capataine Crochet" 3 hours ago, Bespin said: ...it remains a movie with a lot of technical problems, like the transitions (or the lack of) between some scenes and some very odd special effects (even for the time). Can you give us examples, Bes? 5 hours ago, Tallguy said: Someday I'll force myself to watch The Post. I'm willing to bet my opinion won't change. It won't I've seen THE POST several times since its release, and, frankly, it's well-made junk. It even dares to reference a far, far greater film, at the end. A very minor entry in Spielberg's oeuvre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Capitaine! The transition between the scenes where Robbins get kissed by Mermaids, then the next one where he's already out of the sea, being lifted in a giant Clam. Even the music seems to say: eew, ok, that was it! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 'Little Shop of Horrors' is a slaphappy musical of carefree abandon. It's so endearingly stupid and comic-strippy even i can enjoy it. Frank Oz directs people like the muppets he used to, but it works in the movie's favour. Steve Martin and Bill Murray have this great cameo pairing as sadistic dentist and masochist patient which reminded me that this decade (the 80's) spawned a number of great comedians (and comedies) unmatched before or since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Fort Tilden Oh, man! This is the debut movie from Sarah-Violet Bliss and Charles Rogers, who would go to to make the (great!) TV series Search Party as their next project. When viewed from that perspective this is a bit like a really raw "pilot" version of many of the tone and feel they were going for in that show, at least where that show begins (later seasons bare no resemblance to this movie whatsoever!) The film follows two entitled Brooklyn millennials over the course of a single day as they try to get from their apartment to the beach to meet some boys.... and nothing goes right. This is the kind of film that is not for everyone, that many will turn off because they find the two leads too unlikeable and annoying, but that is kind of the point! The movie pokes fun at their perceived entitlement, and their inability to make logical decisions if it gets in the way of their (immediate) goals - their lack of concrete long-term goals is one of the themes explored. I can understand why many would flick it off, but I was amused the whole time, made easy for me because the two leads - Bridey Elliot (Chris Elliot's daughter) and Clare McNulty (Chantall from Search Party) really give their all portraying these characters, and they have great comedic timing and line deliveries. The interpersonal drama can be a bit OTT, and I feel like that is what Bliss and Rogers reeled in when making Search Party, but the dark comedy that runs throughout was right up my alley. What really makes the film work though is the climax, which is so unexpected and unlike any climax I've seen in any similar movies, it really made the film overall worth recommending and something special, if extremely niche and quirky. Now that Search Party is over, I hope they make another film, I'd love to see a followup. Random side note, this one one of the first movies Orion Pictures released when they came back to life in the 2010s, it was quite the throw-back to see that classic logo footage play in front of the film! It's on Kanopy Glóin the Dark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, publicist said: 'Little Shop of Horrors' is a slaphappy musical of carefree abandon. It's so endearingly stupid and comic-strippy even i can enjoy it. Frank Oz directs people like the muppets he used to, but it works in the movie's favour. Steve Martin and Bill Murray have this great cameo pairing as sadistic dentist and masochist patient which reminded me that this decade (the 80's) spawned a number of great comedians (and comedies) unmatched before or since. And a score by Alan Menken, as I learned few days ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Bespin said: Capitaine! Touché Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Bespin said: And a score by Alan Menken, as I learned few days ago! I don't recall if it has an actual score (I suppose there must be some underscore at least), but the original stage musical and the film based on it were both written by Ashman and Menken. I actually played the album today (before reading Pub's post). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Platoon I saw this film once in college, and this was now my second time seeing it. I didn't remember anything about it though, so it might as well have been a first watch! I thought it was pretty interesting to frame Charlie Sheen's character as this rich kid who wasn't drafted but signed up to do his part, although that aspect didn't end up really having much impact; What was more interesting was seeing how the Lieutenant running the squad (Mark Moses) was pretty much checked out and the two Sargeants (Tom Berenger and Willem Dafoe) had two completely different ideas about how to runs things over there, and Sheen gets caught in the middle. Keith David, Foreset Whitaker, Kevin Dillon, John C McGinley, Johnny Depp, and Tony Todd all show up too. Overall though, I wasn't very impressed with the movie, it was just kind of a depressing and nasty slog. I'm sure the point was to display the horrors of war, especially the Vietnam War, but I didn't find it very compelling. Of course I am spoiled now by the post-Saving Private Ryan war movies that are filmed in a different way. I'm sure this one had more of an impact to its 1986 audience than it had to me now. I doubt I'll ever watch it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 It had a big impact on me aged 16 in 2004, an age when movies like this are more apt to make an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Yea I was probably 19-21 when I saw it and thought it was good enough I eventually bought the blu ray After we finally watched the blu ray a few weeks ago, I put it on my "to sell" pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I'm watching Night at Museum: Secret of the Tomb for the first time. Halloween's lists... I understand I maybe should laugh at every scenes, instead, another part of my brain just remembered I purchased the score of this movie on CD... Alan Silvestri!!! Ah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,012 Posted September 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2022 Watched both Poltergeist and It Follows last night. Really enjoyed both. The expert execution of simple premise in the latter really impressed me. Karol Andy, Marian Schedenig and Bespin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Heat Hey, this movie is pretty good I had seen it once or twice before, but not in around 20 years or so, and I quite enjoyed revisiting it. It really holds up as quite the engaging crime thriller, but one of the best sound mixes I've ever had come out of my home sound system. Once all the gun violence happens outside the bank, I couldn't believe how loud and visceral the sound mix was, it was really quite impressive! I'd guess the entire movie leading up to that scene is at a lower over all volume, so this scene comes in to purposely be loud and in your face, and it's just great. The only part of the movie that stood out as being strange was a random scene where Waingro murders a prostitute, and somehow for some reason Pacino is called to the scene, like they would know her death would have anything to do with his case? Actually, they framed it as if he was already investigating some kind of serial killer of prostitutes so that's why he was called, but that was such a random aside that never gets mentioned again, it just ended up being a weird scene. It made me feel like it was the start of a deleted storyline and they just forgot to delete the first part too. Weird. Overall, one heck of a cool movei that fully justifies its almost 3 hour runtime...well, except that one scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 HEAT is a genuine classic, and among the greatest films in recent memory. Everything, from writing and performances, to editing, music, cinematography, and direction, are all first class. It's two hours and fifty minutes, but it doesn't feel like it. It's not a slog, by any standard. Rather, it's involving, and thrilling, and it generates a lot of sympathy for both sides (except, of course, for Waingro, because he's a scum-bag asshole). The ending, at LAX, is unbearably moving. A modern masterpiece. Brundlefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 The cinematography is really nice, that and the sound mix were my big takeaway from this viewing. And yea, it definitely doesn't feel like a 3 hour movie in the slightest, it's paced great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Fun fact: Mann redubbed the shootout sequence, but after hearing it, he decided that it didn't work. He preferred all the ambient sound from the original footage, so that's what we hear, in the film. Listening to it on a 5.1 system, you get all the wonderful reverb of the bullet hits. It's a masterful sequence to watch, and to listen to. Brundlefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 I had no idea my setup could sound this good until I put this blu ray on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 I always found Heat, and Michael Mann in general, to be pretty overrated, but I haven’t seen it in a long time. Maybe I should do a rewatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 IMO, Heat is significantly better than all his other movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Agreed, Jay. It's definitely his best film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,220 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Nah, it’s The Last of the Mohicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Jay said: Heat What did you think of the music/score? For some I think it's one of their favourite Goldenthal soundtracks (for both his own music and the stuff my Moby and others, I believe), but it's always been a bit of a nonentity to me, on CD and in the film. 2 hours ago, Jay said: I had no idea my setup could sound this good until I put this blu ray on! Have you watched Master and Commander on it? 13 hours ago, crocodile said: Watched both Poltergeist and It Follows last night. Really enjoyed both. The expert execution of simple premise in the latter really impressed me. Poltergeist, as I said before, ranks quite differently for me depending on which aspects of it I focus on, but if I pay extra attention to the score, the film as a whole is stunning. With all the dialled out music restored, it would be one of my top favourite LTP things. It Follows is indeed amazingly well made. I probably enjoyed it more the second time I watched it, because I could focus more on how it all works together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: What did you think of the music/score? For some I think it's one of their favourite Goldenthal soundtracks (for both his own music and the stuff my Moby and others, I believe), but it's always been a bit of a nonentity to me, on CD and in the film. Honestly, I didn't really like the score. At times I felt it really felt at-odds with what I was seeing on the screen, like it was scoring a cheesier version of the actual movie I was watching. It wasn't always like this throughout, though, just certain score cues. Well, I'm not entirely sure what was Goldenthal and what was needle-drops, tbh. 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: Have you watched Master and Commander on it? Hmm, no, I don't think so, but I betcha that's a great one; I love that movie! And I have it on blu, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay said: 3 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Have you watched Master and Commander on it? Hmm, no, I don't think so, but I betcha that's a great one; I love that movie! And I have it on blu, too. The entire opening is a feast for a good sound system. And unless you REALLY turn it down, the first cannon blast will shake your house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: What did you think of the music/score? For some I think it's one of their favourite Goldenthal soundtracks (for both his own music and the stuff my Moby and others, I believe), but it's always been a bit of a nonentity to me, on CD and in the film. Don't you think this is particularly terrific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, Romão said: Don't you think this is particularly terrific? Not particularly terrific, no. Still better than what I remembered (or rather: didn't remember) though. I might give the album another (virtual) spin after all. Oddly enough much of this sounds to me like a mix of Michael Nyman and Bernard Herrmann filtered through Goldenthal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Big Trouble Oh man, this movie is TWENTY YEARS OLD now! It's a classic mad-cap romp, with Tim Allen, Renee Russo, Stanley Tucci, Tom Sizemore, Johnny Knoxville, Dennis Farina, Janeane Garofalo, Patrick Warburton, Zooey Deschanel, Ben Foster, Heavy D, Omar Epps, Andy Richter, Sofia Vergara, Jason Lee, DJ Qualls.... how did every role in this little movie get filled with big names?! And they're ALL funny in this! The whole movie is completely entertaining from start to finish, and James Newton Howard's score is really fun! Anybody else here like this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I'm currently watching for the first time... Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children. Yes, Halloween list... But I surprise myself to laugh Diabolically when watching it... Tim Burton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I'm ready for the real Batman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,365 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bespin said: I'm ready for the real Batman! The one that couldn't turn his head. Bespin and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,524 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Aww! BAMBI Wha hey! GREMLINS 2 Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 30/9/2022 at 3:45 PM, Jay said: Big Trouble Oh man, this movie is TWENTY YEARS OLD now! It's a classic mad-cap romp, with Tim Allen, Renee Russo, Stanley Tucci, Tom Sizemore, Johnny Knoxville, Dennis Farina, Janeane Garofalo, Patrick Warburton, Zooey Deschanel, Ben Foster, Heavy D, Omar Epps, Andy Richter, Sofia Vergara, Jason Lee, DJ Qualls.... how did every role in this little movie get filled with big names?! And they're ALL funny in this! The whole movie is completely entertaining from start to finish, and James Newton Howard's score is really fun! Anybody else here like this one? One of my favorites. The whole cast is really great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 30/09/2022 at 3:45 PM, Jay said: Anybody else here like this one? Never seen it. It didn't grab my attention at the time. But now it's probably the kind of movie I wish they were still making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 It definitely wasn't a big hit, and got little marketing since it had the unfortunate timing of having a plot involving a bomb in an airport and originally scheduled to release shortly after 9/11. Doesn't seem have developed a cult following at all in the years following, which is a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,827 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I've started my Halloween month of horror films. Dawn of the dead (1978) I fell asleep after 45 minutes. 7.8 at imdb for this??? Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Pathetic! Make you a coffee at least! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,126 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I adore Dawn of the Dead. There’s something new to appreciate every viewing. I love the message that they get everything they could want, and they’re still unhappy. They throw a nice convention in Pittsburgh where you visit all the filming locations such as the airport. So yes, I’ve been to the mall several times. I got to watch the film in 3D, with lots of cast members, in the mall theater, which is where the JC Penny store the protagonists occupied used to be located. Trippy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 6 hours ago, filmmusic said: I've started my Halloween month of horror films. Dawn of the dead (1978) I fell asleep after 45 minutes. 7.8 at imdb for this??? You should have watched this one instead: Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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