BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It just looks to me like a Koray Savas film. Everything about it screams THIS IS MEANINGFUL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion (1981)My God, every movie I watch makes me fall in love with Italian cinema even more. What an intriguing, thought-provoking and masterfully shot this movie was. The subjects it touches upon are very familiar to us argentinians in particular as it is quite similar to what would happen here when the military took over power by force.Apart from that, it raises very legitimate issues regarding power and the abuse of that power. It feels extremly contemporary, there's a lot of stuff that I can relate to what's going on here right now, truly an eye-opener.I don't have much to say but I can say that the film left me thinking so much; I love films that can do that. Also I should remark how well-shot and acted this film was. The italians sure know how to shot a film.9/10I really like the score.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 12 Years A SlaveA good film, but it didn't move me as much as it seems to have moved some people. And it's definitely not the masterpiece a lot of people claim it to be.Like many movies on slavery (or maybe it's just a feeling I have), it suffers from being a tad too manichean: all white people are evil, treacherous, vile, sleazy... except Pitt's character (Pitt who, by a fortunate coincidence, is also producer of the film) and to some extent, Cumberbatch's character as well. And all black people are poor, abused victims... Of course, that was generally the case at that time, but I can't help but wish there was bit more subtlety to the approach.The cast is overall quite strong. Ejiofor really shines in his role. So do Fassbender, Paulson, Dano (who always seems to play the "pure douchebag" guy in those kind of films), Cumberbatch... No problem there.The score is unremarkable on the whole, but there are a few scenes where it was just goddamn atrocious (to be more specific, the scene on the boat and when they hang him) and a real nuisance. Oh, and the main theme reminded too much of the theme in Shame.In the end, the only really memorable scenes were the hanging, which I found to be extremely powerful and Patsey's whipping.. Apart from that, I don't think this film offers anything that could make it truly remarkable. It's well-executed for sure, but is it a transcending experience? I think not.7/10Now expecting Koko's "You're nuts" reaction.The theme in Shame is just a rip off of "Journey To The Line."As for your literal black vs. white interpretation, there were plenty of white people in the film that weren't "evil." Namely everyone in Solomon's own town that accepted him with respect and honor before he was kidnapped. He spends the majority of the film as a slave in the South, how much more subtle can you get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I heard some good things about this film from people who would normally give such things very harsh reviews. Makes me want to actually watch.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Not to mention the black people in the North are treated very much like civilians with respect. As Koray said, I don't think they could have been any more subtle with it.I normally don't like slavery movies, so I was disappointed when I heard McQueen was approaching the same topic. But this movie was great.I also think Fassbender should go home with gold for his performance, as should the film as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Namely everyone in Solomon's own town that accepted him with respect and honor before he was kidnapped.Yes, of course they were, but that was in the North. I was obviously talking about when he's a slave, in the South.I haven't read the book, so maybe the movie is very faithful regarding how the white people treated Northup . It still seems a bit caricatural to me. But anyway, that was not a big issue for me, just something I wanted to point out. Even disregarding that, I don't find the film to be mindblowing like you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Everything about it screams THIS IS MEANINGFUL!I haven't seen any of the clips or promo material and I want to see it. I'm hoping it is very meaningful and deeply involving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 You want to feel good about yourself after watching it. Like you went on a journey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 No. I want to be moved and enlightened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Namely everyone in Solomon's own town that accepted him with respect and honor before he was kidnapped.Yes, of course they were, but that was in the North. I was obviously talking about when he's a slave, in the South.I haven't read the book, so maybe the movie is very faithful regarding how the white people treated Northup . It still seems a bit caricatural to me. But anyway, that was not a big issue for me, just something I wanted to point out. Even disregarding that, I don't find the film to be mindblowing like you do.Mindblowing isn't the proper term. It gutted me, emotionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Did you throw up in your mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 No but I cried.Says something about audiences today when Django Unchained created more talk about slavery than this film did. Maybe it was the black man getting revenge angle that made it huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It was a QT films, and therefore filled with action, groovy dialogue and sex etc.That's what draws the audiences in more then an earnest attempt at depicting slavery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 12 YEARS A SLAVE did nothing for me. Unrelenting brutality - no spiritual or human insight, just one big art installation. Suffers from the same problems that HUNGER did. I'm with Alvar on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 What films of its type do "something" for you, promo?The Killing Fields? The Pianist? Amistad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,220 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Just watched The Wolf of Wall Street. The first two-and-a-half hours were so funny that I still feel I have a cramp in my liver. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 RIP Sid. Must watch this in his honor.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOFCT62C7YE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Aye. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 What films of its type do "something" for you, promo? The Killing Fields? The Pianist? Amistad? THE PIANIST yes. AMISTAD, BELOVED, AMAZING GRACE and GLORY, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Pianist is a great film. Haven't seen it in years. Wonder if there's a blu. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I,FrankensteinYou know for this type of film it wasn't bad. Kind of campy with lots of CGI but it worked well in IMAX 3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 You must be the only one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I've seen a lot worse in this type of movie categoryAlso most critics don't like these ultra geeky sci-fi fantasy movies, so the score is always low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Pianist is a great film. Haven't seen it in years. Wonder if there's a blu.I love how Polanski used space in that film. Basically, it gets more more compact in its scope as the main character gets more and more isolated. Very effective direction.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Pianist is also a bit boring and tame, especially for the likes of Polanski. Was he thinking 'Oscar' when he made it? He probably was.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Hitchcock's Foreign Correspondent. Wow what a big film with excellent production values. Really nice film. Delorean90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I found The Pianist as satisfying as Schindler's List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Pianist is also a bit boring and tame, especially for the likes of Polanski. Was he thinking 'Oscar' when he made it? He probably was.AlexDoes Koray love it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Koray = Oscar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Why would a director who's banned from the US make a film to win an Oscar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 To stick it up them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Why? The Academy isn't a 13 year old girl.His kind often don't last long in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The Pianist is also a bit boring and tame, especially for the likes of Polanski. Was he thinking 'Oscar' when he made it? He probably was.AlexDoes Koray love it?Possibly, but be warned it doesn't have wizards or laser beams in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I found The Pianist as satisfying as Schindler's List.Have seen the film once many years ago.Don't remember really anything but at the time I thought it was a very good film.But in my opinion: Fiennes + Spielberg + Williams > The Pianist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Schindler's is certainly the more impressive film of the two, but both resonated fairly equally with me when all is said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Also, Adrien Brody's performance is a helluva start to a career isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Wasn't that Predators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Also, Adrien Brody's performance is a helluva start to a career isn't it?I wonder why some people that get an Oscar disappear afterwards (disappear = don't play in big productions or productions with high artistic values).Some others I could think of besides Brody: Jessica Lange, Kim Basinger, Halle Berry etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Did The Pianist win Oscars did it? Thought it was a bit of a sleeper tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Brody won best actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 But Hooper drove the boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Also, Adrien Brody's performance is a helluva start to a career isn't it?I wonder why some people that get an Oscar disappear afterwards (disappear = don't play in big productions or productions with high artistic values).Some others I could think of besides Brody: Jessica Lange, Kim Basinger, Halle Berry etc.How can you even say that. After his Oscar he plays the village idiot in The Village, then one of the leads in King Kong. Did a bunch of minor W.A. films Predator Splice and a slew of films. He does big and small films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Did The Pianist win Oscars did it? Thought it was a bit of a sleeper tbh.Really? It won three Oscars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 So that's two holocaust movies recognised by the academy. No real surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 You're in an unusually good mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 You're in an unusually good mood.I think he meant "life is beautiful" makes 3 holocaust movies recognised by the Academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Hahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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