What Is The Last Film You Watched? (Older Films)

[Jamie Dutton 7,663]

Yeah it's not the best finale by any means but they make up for it with a last-minute Sean Connery cameo and the Brian Adams song.

[Bayesian 1,448]

12 hours ago, Holko said:

Rewatched Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. What a strange, grotesque, ugly, needlessly overcomplicated, mean-spirited movie. No matter how hard the score tries to pretend it's innocent fun adventure.

No no no! RHPoT is a great movie! I have fond memories of that one, seeing it as a kid. Alan Rickman is terrific, Morgan Freeman too. And the score is such a classic! It’s hard to believe it was written in a near panic, or so I’ve been led to believe. 

[Jamie Dutton 7,663]

 

4K UHD Director's Cut. This is a 10/10 transfer. 

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,117]

No-one here has even mentioned Robin Hood flick with Patrick Bergin.

[CT-7567 115]

Well, I watched Evolution, from 2001, today.

The reason?

 

 

 

And simply because I found it on netflix while i was searching for Shrek.

 

Being honest, I thought that it would be much worse than it is. it´s gross, the comedy is ok at best, the characters aren´t good but not annoying(mostly), the threat is actually something creative, the effects aren´t that bad, it´s the definition of popcorn flick.

 

About the score in the movie, practically everything in the movie is more enjoyable because of it, but there are like, three times that are simply strange because of the director making Powell go to some directions. Like, when two strange animals attack two old people, we have music with the same tone of the waterpark theme from Ice Age, and when a alien dinosaur flies carrying a girl while other guys try to follow it, Powell practically does a faster version of a Avengers theme from a alternate reality.

And I´m not complaining, it makes even more funny how crazy he goes even if the music doesn´t really fits the whole context, watch this part

 

 

[Nick1Ø66 6,076]

4 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Isn't the climax of RH: POT just Rickman trying to have sex with Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio while Costner fights some guards?

All my teenage fantasies in one scene.

[Holko 10,750]

Strange way to spell rape.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,117]

That's what baddies do, so Robin Hood has to save his woman. Duh

[Quintus 5,494]

Gaston would have probably raped Belle.

[Naïve Old Fart 10,795]

7 hours ago, John Dutton said:

 

4K UHD Director's Cut. This is a 10/10 transfer. 

 

"YOU'RE AS CRAZY AS YOUR MAMA! Just goes to show it's in the genes. Have you any idea what you're getting yourself into Jimbo? The government's gonna jump all over you, and go 'Cock-a-doodle-do'. Good day to you, sir."

[Sweeping Strings 2,698]

10 hours ago, The Train Station said:

No-one here has even mentioned Robin Hood flick with Patrick Bergin.

Have never seen it ... would probs give it a watch if it was on telly, but it pretty much never is. 

As for Prince Of Thieves, I'm very fond of it ... a hearty slice of action adventure escapism. Costner's accent niggles a little, but as Robin is a mythical figure anyway it doesn't matter overly in the grand scheme of things. 

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,117]

Don't forget Robin and Marian with Connery and Hepburn!

[Edmilson 9,443]

That's the one with the John Barry score, right?

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,117]

[Tallguy 4,740]

12 hours ago, The Train Station said:

No-one here has even mentioned Robin Hood flick with Patrick Bergin.

This is just generally true.

[Davis 3,358]

4 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

a hearty slice of action adventure escapism.

Always loved this shot:

 

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,117]

[Tallguy 4,740]

I'm sure you can make a very good trailer from the film.

 

EDIT: And The Rocketeer was a WAY better film.

[Davis 3,358]

1 hour ago, The Train Station said:

That’s another one of my favourites. 
 

 

39 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

I'm sure you can make a very good trailer from the film.

I’d rather watch the film again. 

 

39 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

EDIT: And The Rocketeer was a WAY better film.

Why would you compare a comic book movie with an adventure movie? 

[Tallguy 4,740]

8 minutes ago, Davis said:

Why would you compare a comic book movie with an adventure movie? 

 

 

Because they came out about a week apart and Robin Hood annihilated The Rocketeer at the box office.

[Davis 3,358]

Rightfully so.
 

PS: I’m not criticizing The Rocketeer, it’s a fun fantasy film with a great Horner score. But you can’t compare it with a Robin Hood adventure film, with a sensational Kamen score. 

[Tallguy 4,740]

1 hour ago, Davis said:

Rightfully so.
 

PS: I’m not criticizing The Rocketeer, it’s a fun fantasy film with a great Horner score. But you can’t compare it with a Robin Hood adventure film, with a sensational Kamen score. 

 

I think I can compare any film which is good with Robin Hood which is not. I can certainly compare it with The Mask of Zorro (which is good).

 

I would LOVE to have seen a great or even good Robin Hood film. And I'm sorry that Kamen never got to score one.

 

EDIT: @Davis - I appreciate your graciousness regarding The Rocketeer. I just really don't think RH:PoT is a good film.

 

If it's any consolation (or any measure of my credibility or lack thereof) I didn't like Terminator 2 very much and that's a far better film. (T2 is an amazing spectacle but somewhere Cameron just lost me. Mostly the ending.)

 

Ladies and Gentlemen: The Summer of 1991!

[Davis 3,358]

11 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

I appreciate your graciousness regarding The Rocketeer. I just really don't think RH:PoT is a good film.

 

It’s all good, my friend. You’re entitled to your opinion, and I respect it.
 

[Marian Schedenig 9,387]

1 hour ago, Tallguy said:

If it's any consolation (or any measure of my credibility or lack thereof) I didn't like Terminator 2 very much

 

And there I thought I was the only one!

[Naïve Old Fart 10,795]

Are you kidding?!

T2 is Cameron masturbating in public.

THE TERMINATOR is a great, gritty, lo-fi, low down and dirty flick that uses its budget (or rather lack of it) to full advantage, and is totally without pretensions.

T2 is just THE TERMINATOR writ large, offering nothing new, no progression from the first one, and no originality.

Yeah, the special effects are state of the art, but that's about all.

Nah. Stick with the first one, it's much better.

[Edmilson 9,443]

I like T2. Sure, the special effects are great for 1991, but it also has an amazing trio of heroes in Sarah and John Connor and Arnie's T-800. Plus a very memorable and creepy villain.

 

Wish I was alive in 1991 and old enough to have seen The Terminator before T2 so the plot twist of Arnold being the hero is a surprise to me.

 

11 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Cameron masturbating in public.

Now this image won't leave my mind. Thanks 

[Groovygoth666 1,057]

8 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Wish I was alive in 1991 and old enough to have seen The Terminator before T2 so the plot twist of Arnold being the hero is a surprise to me.

Except they spoiled the twist in the trailer - 

 

 

[Mr. Hooper 3,750]

1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

T2 is just THE TERMINATOR writ large, offering nothing new, no progression from the first one, and no originality.

Nothing new?

 

We are introduced to John Connor. We see Sarah Connor—who was an unwitting and forced participant in the first—take up the mission to make sure Skynet never happens, to save the human race. We get, as Edmilson pointed out, a cool and formidable, new kind of 'Terminator' to be the villain. And, in an early example of expectation subversion—but that works—we get to see a 'Terminator' be a protagonist in the story.

 

What more do you want?

[Tallguy 4,740]

1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

Wish I was alive in 1991 and old enough to have seen The Terminator before T2 so the plot twist of Arnold being the hero is a surprise to me.

It is one of the great losses to cinema that they didn't let that be a twist. Like Sixth Sense level. Cameron works so hard at every turn to make you think "This is going just like the last one." When Arnold says "Get down" it should have been the greatest mind blowing moment in movie history.

 

Like I said, there is much to love about T2. But it just doesn't sit for me. Never has. I mean, I love Sarah in that movie.

 

When my wife and I were watching The Sarah Connor Chronicles (SO GOOD!) we went back and watched The Terminator. And she thought it was fine. Not her favorite film, but OK. Then we tried to watch T2. She was SO bored. It was weird. I would never have called that in a million years. T2 Sarah is exactly the kind of heroine she adores.

 

I think it's probably the fact that I don't like the Old Yeller ending and I don't like that it messes up the first movies perfect loop.

 

Oh, and Cameron thinks he's being deep when he tries to tell us "Nuclear war is BAD!"

[Davis 3,358]

James Cameron made four amazing sci-fi classics:

The Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss and Terminator 2. He made a fun spy action thriller, True Lies and an epic historical drama, Titanic. He should’ve retired right after.

 

 

1 hour ago, Tallguy said:

When Arnold says "Get down" it should have been the greatest mind blowing moment in movie history.

And it was just that. At least to 10-year-old me watching it for the first time in the theatre. It was like the “I’m your father” moment in ESB or the waking up scene in The Matrix. 

[A24 4,662]

13 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Are you kidding?!

T2 is Cameron masturbating in public.

THE TERMINATOR is a great, gritty, lo-fi, low down and dirty flick that uses its budget (or rather lack of it) to full advantage, and is totally without pretensions.

T2 is just THE TERMINATOR writ large, offering nothing new, no progression from the first one, and no originality.

Yeah, the special effects are state of the art, but that's about all.

Nah. Stick with the first one, it's much better.

 

To me T2 is the work of a much better director. The visual language (or visual storytelling) is so perfect it makes T1 almost inarticulate (and more reminiscent to his style in Piranha II, lo-fi indeed!). Also, I find T-1000 way more frightening then cuddly bear Arnie. The movie does have a dip somewhere in the middle (long version of the film) when they are in Mexico and Arnie is working on his dad skills. I probably should stick to the Theatrical Cut.

 

I admit, T2 the only Cameron movie that still impresses me today. T1 is, of course, a classic. So is Aliens but the last time I watched it (the day after I watched Alien on Blu-ray - I just bought the trilogy Blu-ray box), I no longer found all that interesting. Movies have an expiration date and I feel I've reached that point with Aliens.

 

Never been a fan of The Abyss, that Arnold spy movie, Titanic, Avatar, ...

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,117]

His only decent flick was Piranha II.

[Naïve Old Fart 10,795]

PIRANHA II is not bad, and in the character of Anne Kimbrough, you have a proto-Ripley.

[A24 4,662]

1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

PIRANHA II is not bad ...

 

No wonder why you guys don't trust Rotten Tomatoes! It has one of the lowest scores from both critics and audiences in RT's history.

 

 

[Sweeping Strings 2,698]

Police Story - my local 'arthouse' cinema's action season continues with this pre-Hollywood Jackie Chan (star and director) number, in which the frequently winceworthy stuntwork makes it clear that H and S stood for Hospitalisation and Sutures here rather than Health and Safety. There's a decent amount of goofy comedy too, which I guess had to be as carefully choreographed as the action.

[Naïve Old Fart 10,795]

1 hour ago, A24 said:

No wonder why you guys don't trust Rotten Tomatoes! It has one of the lowest scores from both critics and audiences in RT's history.

Fuck Rotten Tomatoes, fuck critics, and fuck audiences.

I know what I like, and that's good enough for me. How dare any aggregate computer score dictate what I enjoy to watch, read, or listen to.

Critics have often got it wrong (CITIZEN KANE; THE WIZARD OF OZ; 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY - Pauline Kael hated that one; BLADE RUNNER).

If someone likes something, they like it, and no-one should try to tell them otherwise.

I mean no offence whatsoever to you, Alex; I just get mad when someone tells me what to like and what not to like. Stuff 'em.

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,117]

Their articulation and snark can be amusing, but they're generally an unreliable gauge in evaluating a film's quality.

[Tallguy 4,740]

13 hours ago, Davis said:

And it was just that. At least to 10-year-old me watching it for the first time in the theatre. It was like the “I’m your father” moment in ESB or the waking up scene in The Matrix. 

I envy you!

 

7 hours ago, A24 said:

So is Aliens but the last time I watched it (the day after I watched Alien on Blu-ray - I just bought the trilogy Blu-ray box), I no longer found all that interesting.

I admit I've been drawn into the "Aliens is not 1/10 the film that Alien is" camp. I watched both films for the very first time back to back on Aliens' opening night. (Watched Alien at home and then went to see Aliens in the greatest cinema I have ever been in.) Alien certainly has only increased in my estimation over the years.

 

We watched Aliens as a family a month or two ago (theatrical cut, thank you) and it freaking blew me away. The story, the characters, the design, and yes, the direction.

 

7 hours ago, A24 said:

Never been a fan of The Abyss, that Arnold spy movie, Titanic, Avatar, ...

True Lies has never taken up much space in my head. I haven't seen Titanic in 20 years. (I'm sure I will soon.) But I was obsessed with it when it came out. I cannot go near Avatar.

 

The Abyss is one of my top ten favorite movies of all time. This is peak Cameron. Especially the theatrical cut. It's all of Cameron's best and they had to trim all of his indulgences for time. (The extended cut has all of the signposts for T2.)

 

3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

PIRANHA II is not bad, and in the character of Anne Kimbrough, you have a proto-Ripley.

Interesting...

[Mr. Hooper 3,750]

When I hear people taking a dump on 'Aliens', I'm all like, "What the hell more do you want out of an action movie?" It just reeks of smugness to me... "You know that movie you all like? Well I don't like it!"

 

Why not instead say, yes, it's a terrific achievement, but it's not my cup of tea.

[Davis 3,358]

35 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

I'm all like, "What the hell more do you want out of an action movie?"

Besides, calling ALIENS an action movie is like calling THE THING a horror movie. They are so much more just to be typecast in one genre. ALIENS is sci-fi, drama, action, horror, thriller. 

[Meredith McKay 7,071]

32 minutes ago, Davis said:

Besides, calling ALIENS an action movie is like calling THE THING a horror movie. They are so much more just to be typecast in one genre. ALIENS is sci-fi, drama, action, horror, thriller. 

Aliens is in one genre: It's a Sci-fi horror action thriller drama.

[A24 4,662]

7 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Fuck Rotten Tomatoes, fuck critics, and fuck audiences.

I know what I like, and that's good enough for me. How dare any aggregate computer score dictate what I enjoy to watch, read, or listen to.

Critics have often got it wrong (CITIZEN KANE; THE WIZARD OF OZ; 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY - Pauline Kael hated that one; BLADE RUNNER).

If someone likes something, they like it, and no-one should try to tell them otherwise.

I mean no offence whatsoever to you, Alex; I just get mad when someone tells me what to like and what not to like. Stuff 'em.

 

But surely you don't think Piranha II, a film with a 5% score on RT, is going to be the next Citizen Kane or Space Odyssey? And do you actually like Citizen Kane? Be honest, Richard! 

 

Anyway, my point here is that sometimes some critics (they are human too) and audiences need more than one viewing in order to come to a better judgement. Indeed, this happened to CK, 2001 and Blade Runner, but time has rectified this.  

 

9 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

PIRANHA II is not bad, and in the character of Anne Kimbrough, you have a proto-Ripley.

 

BTW, what do you mean by proto-Ripley? 

[Meredith McKay 7,071]

Quote

 

The prefix "proto-" comes from the Greek word prôtos, which means "first". It's used to indicate something is original, primary, earliest, or primitive.

 

 

[Mr. Hooper 3,750]

3 hours ago, Davis said:

Besides, calling ALIENS an action movie is like calling THE THING a horror movie. They are so much more just to be typecast in one genre. ALIENS is sci-fi, drama, action, horror, thriller. 

Sure, but when broken down for a comparison, 'Alien' is usually referred to as the "suspense" one, and 'Aliens' ("This time it's war.") the "action" one, where it primarily operates.

[Glóin the Dark 1,366]

The main purpose of consulting critics' reviews is not to be told what one should like, but to obtain some insight into how much promise there is with any particular unseen film. There are so many available films that one has to apply some sort of filter in the selection process, and seeking reports from people who have already seen a film (and, in particular, people who have a fair amount of experience of the medium and knowledge of the repertoire) is one of the most natural things to do in that regard. Of course, someone who finds little or no correlation between their own tastes and those of critics (in general) will do well to disregard them.

 

Rotten Tomatoes can sometimes be useful as a hub which can be used to survey a range of different responses to a given film, but I don't find the Tomatometer itself particularly informative. Binarising each review and then calculating a percentage of fresh ones feels a bit like doing a calculation in which the inputs are all rounded off to the nearest whole number but the final answer is given to several decimal places. A film can get a score above 90% with most reviewers willing to call it "good" but none of them deeming it "great".

[Davis 3,358]

Detachment (2011, dir.: Tony Kaye) 10/10

[A24 4,662]

 

Quote

The prefix "proto-" comes from the Greek word prôtos, which means "first". It's used to indicate something is original, primary, earliest, or primitive.

 

 

So in 1982, and 3 years after Alien, Cameron's Piranha II: The Spawning presented us with a proto-Ripley? Hmm, am I the only one who finds this curious? I would think describing her as a Ripley knock-off would be more accurate. 

 

 

 

[Davis 3,358]

Or a Rip(ley)-off.

[A24 4,662]

 

Will the real Ripley stand up, please!

 

 

Alien (1979)

The Fog (1980)

Piranha II (1982)

 

 

 

 

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,117]

Ooh I like the one in the middle