filmmusic 2,337 Posted December 9, 2024 Share Posted December 9, 2024 8 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: OHMSS - annual festive season rewatch, a welcome chance to wallow in its magnificence yet again. Lazenby accepting the multi-picture deal that was apparently on the table rather than bailing is one of the great Bond 'what ifs'. I have seen it once, but while I liked it, I found it a bit long for a James Bond film.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,744 Posted December 9, 2024 Share Posted December 9, 2024 8 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: OHMSS - annual festive season rewatch, a welcome chance to wallow in its magnificence yet again. Lazenby accepting the multi-picture deal that was apparently on the table rather than bailing is one of the great Bond 'what ifs'. One thing's for sure; if he had accepted that deal, we wouldn't have gotten the utter crapfest that was DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,083 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 Oh come on. Diamonds Are Forever is one of my favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,648 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 Connery looked a bit fat in that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,083 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,648 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 Davis and filmmusic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,337 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 9 minutes ago, John Dutton said: I get goosebumps every time in the main title sequence, with those swirling strings! Davis and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,083 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 Back when Elfman had talent. Jamie Dutton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,648 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 The good old days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,688 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 16 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: One thing's for sure; if he had accepted that deal, we wouldn't have gotten the utter crapfest that was DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER. I've been told that the best way to see DAF is as a sort of camp black comedy. Dunno about that, it's not all bad though. @filmmusic - for a Bond to run longer than a couple of hours then was relatively rare (I think of the ones before OHMSS, only Thunderball did), but it's happened since ... the only one of Craig's 5 that comes to less than about 2 hrs 20 mins is Quantum Of Solace, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,744 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 Although I have taken to QUANTUM OF SOLACE, it's too short. A little more characterization, and a little less fast cutting would have gone a long way. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,309 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 11 hours ago, filmmusic said: I get goosebumps every time in the main title sequence, with those swirling strings! Me too. Batman and Batman Returns are Danny Elfman’s magnum opus. What a damn shame he and Burton didn’t do a third film, I’m sure Elfman would’ve written yet another amazing Batman score. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,725 Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 4 minutes ago, Davis said: Me too. Batman and Batman Returns are Danny Elfman’s magnum opus. What a damn shame he and Burton didn’t do a third film, I’m sure Elfman would’ve written yet another amazing Batman score. Well...he did. Karol Davis and Edmilson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,688 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 22 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Although I have taken to QUANTUM OF SOLACE, it's too short. A little more characterization, and a little less fast cutting would have gone a long way. It's definitely too 'Bournefluenced', both in the ways you describe and 'your allies are actually your enemies' plotting. The Bournes are their own thing, and should've been left as such (and some of those involved expressed distaste for some aspects of Bond, so curious that the Bond franchise should then want to emulate them). Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,337 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 Maybe a bit overrated to get 7.5 at imdb, but still enjoyable. (though I still don't understand how the stock market works ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,744 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 What a scumbag. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,651 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 People love this one but I don't get much out of it. It's just 90 minutes of watching someone in a grieving state of mind. 5/10 Naïve Old Fart, Davis and filmmusic 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,744 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 Personally, I like all three. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 23 minutes ago, A24 said: People love this one but I don't get much out of it. It's just 90 minutes of watching someone in a grieving state of mind. 5/10 It's about music and Binoche. What's not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,362 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 The music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 It's Preisner's best score. What do you want, Star Wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,337 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 49 minutes ago, A24 said: People love this one but I don't get much out of it. It's just 90 minutes of watching someone in a grieving state of mind. 5/10 Do you like other Kieslowski films, or maybe it isn't your style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,309 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 15 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's Preisner's best score. What do you want, Star Wars? Really? Good to know. I only know Fairytale: A True Story and The Secret Garden by Preisner, those are very nice. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,362 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 17 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's Preisner's best score. What do you want, Star Wars? It wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the in-story role of the music (in which context it isn't film music); it sounds more than half a century out of date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,337 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, Davis said: Really? Good to know. I only know Fairytale: A True Story and The Secret Garden by Preisner, those are very nice. You really should listen to his whole Three colors trilogy and The Double life of Veronique. Those are his best IMO. Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said: It wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the in-story role of the music (in which context it isn't film music); it sounds more than half a century out of date. How do you mean out of date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,362 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 I mean that it sounds more like orchestral music of the early 20th Century, when it was supposed to be contemporary with the film. Edit to clarify: I realise that there were still composers writing old-fashioned orchestral music in the late 20th Century (as indeed there are now). I'm not saying that the film is necessarily unrealistic in that respect; I'm saying that this fact impedes my appreciation of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 I find it convincing that a hymn commissioned for the unification of Europe is written in an available style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,362 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 How do you mean available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 Sorry, bad translation. How do I say "tilgjengelig stil" in English, @Thor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,362 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 "Accessible", perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 That's it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,362 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 I don't think many people (proportionally speaking) would have found such music accessible in the early 90s! If the piece's commissioners wanted music in a style that would have wide appeal, they should have hired, say, Whitney Houston. Or, if a European musician was required, maybe Sinéad O'Connor. In fact, they probably should have just picked the Eurovision winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 This is a type of commission that calls for a celebratory piece in some kind of classical style. When I say it's accessible it's because it's highly melodic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,362 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 What I'm saying is that the reactionary idiom of the work at the heart of the story makes it difficult for me to engage with the film in the way that (I think) is intended, and is one of the reasons why Blue is my least favourite of the three parts. 12 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: ...it's because it's highly melodic. There's a can of worms right there but, this being the films thread, I shall leave it shut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 6 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said: the reactionary idiom of the work What exactly do you mean? 7 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said: There's a can of worms right there but, this being the films thread, I shall leave it shut! Bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,651 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Glóin the Dark said: It wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the in-story role of the music (in which context it isn't film music); it sounds more than half a century out of date. It didn't make sense. One of the greatest contemporary classical music composers wrote simplistic film music? That wasn't very plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 Just look at JWs concertos vs. his celebratory pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,362 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 16 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What exactly do you mean? I'm listening to it now and I think I was wide of the mark even to compare it to early 20th Century music. Berlioz's Requiem sounds more modern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 Berly was ahead of his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,744 Posted December 12, 2024 Share Posted December 12, 2024 12 hours ago, filmmusic said: Do you like other Kieslowski films, or maybe it isn't your style? THE DOUBLE LIFE OF VERONIQUE is good, and THE DEKALOG is remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,083 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Don't Look Now What a scam this movie was. Audiences were conned into watching this because of all the controversy about its raunchy sex scene earlier on, but they might as well have walked out afterward because that was all that was worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,492 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 I appreciate it, especially the last hour. It's a bit slow going before that, granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,906 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 King Kong (2005) For me, if you want to watch King Kong in 2024 this is the one to watch. I don’t find the length a problem and I think it does the best job of humanising Kong while still staying true to the spirit of the original. Love the score. It still engages me on rewatches and Kong is superb. The Lovely Bones. Eh. I like the visuals and the acting but the writing lets it down big time. Even Mark Whalberg has a decent turn in this. But tbh, a lot of the problems seem to stem from the original book and its frankly weird premise. This was the last remaining Peter Jackson film I hadn’t seen. I’ve seen them all now. I wonder if he’ll ever make a feature film again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,337 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 2 hours ago, The Train Station said: Don't Look Now What a scam this movie was. Audiences were conned into watching this because of all the controversy about its raunchy sex scene earlier on, but they might as well have walked out afterward because that was all that was worth watching. It's one of the worst films I have ever seen and I'm surprised that it's considered a masterpiece! Lady Dimitrescu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,399 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Isn't The Lovely Bones that movie scored by the guy who hates John Williams? It's disappointing that the movie could've inspired a wonderful score and yet Jackson hired the guy who hates John Williams. Shore, JNH, Elfman, they all could've done an amazing work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 1,335 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 I know what forum this is, yet I'm a little miffed that's how someone would describe Brian Eno (even if I'm just learning there's a whole thread about this). Though I suppose I never hear anyone bring up a stand out film work of his like they would his contemporaries. Even Jean-Michel Jarre's relatively obscure effort is noteworthy because it predates Oxygene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,671 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 Mansell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 1,335 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 It doesn't help that I recall there was some sort of tampering with TLB's music, since I did see some discussion regarding someone else doing cues you hear in the final film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,906 Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 I thought Eno’s score for the Lovely Bones was fine. I don’t particularly care for Eno and I care less for his opinions on John Williams. The film would not have been any better with a score on the level of say The Book Thief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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