publicist 4,643 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I think you mean, J.R.R. Tolkien The first 200 pages of LOTR are a long and imho boring haul, but worked like gangbusters in Jacksons movie. So...Lots of people said the same about King Kong.king kong worked much better than the first shit film of the Hobbit series, perhaps his second film will have less problems.Eloquently put, as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I think you mean, J.R.R. Tolkien The first 200 pages of LOTR are a long and imho boring haul, but worked like gangbusters in Jacksons movie. So...Lots of people said the same about King Kong.king kong worked much better than the first shit film of the Hobbit series, perhaps his second film will have less problems.Eloquently put, as always.I think you mean, J.R.R. Tolkien The first 200 pages of LOTR are a long and imho boring haul, but worked like gangbusters in Jacksons movie. So...Lots of people said the same about King Kong.king kong worked much better than the first shit film of the Hobbit series, perhaps his second film will have less problems.Eloquently put, as always.I was trying to be hateful about the first hobbit of the series, a series which done properly would be a 2 and 1/2 stand alone film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I can't disagree with our resident grumpyface! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I make sure that i don't see the second one in 48fps, which added insult to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I make sure that i don't see the second one in 48fps, which added insult to injury.I am not, fortunately.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I make sure that i don't see the second one in 48fps, which added insult to injury.I am not, fortunately.Karolnot what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Not seeing it in HFR.I didn't have plans to see it in cinemas at all, but my friends are all going and I am enough of a hermit already these days. You can tell from my increasing postcount.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I make sure that i don't see the second one in 48fps, which added insult to injury.locally that isn't an option. I really don't care to see part 2 but Dave wants to see it on his birthday so we'll go out for dinner and a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Yeah, it's more of a social date: nobody really wants to see it, but the ties of the original LOTR are still strong enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I want to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I'm with you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I want to see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Yes, but you are nerds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Tell that to all the nerds I used to beat up in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 We like film music, we are all nerds here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Yes, but you are nerds.Yes, so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I passed out when the dwarves started to sing while washing the dishes. Indulgence, thy name is Peter Jackson.I think you mean, J.R.R. Tolkien I've read the book. Unlike Jackson, the author didn't take fifteen years to get to the dish washing song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Unlike Jackson, Tolkien had not written a hit book yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Some fans feel like Jackson has to stick with "Tradition" (Prologue, scene, title) and feel exactly like LOTR because of some fans.Tolkien did not (because LOTR had not been written yet!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 He would not have written LOTR if it were not for the fans of The Hobbit!But no, my point was that Jackson "has" to make The Hobbit fit with LOTR, Tolkien did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 He would not have written LOTR if it were not for the fans of The Hobbit!But no, my point was that Jackson "has" to make The Hobbit fit with LOTR, Tolkien did not.No he didn't. Jackson chose to off his own back. There was definitely opposition out there which worried that Jackson might indeed tie the a hobbit in too closely with LotR.Plus how does any of that have any bearing on an excessively long Bag End sequence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 No, because the events of LOTR happen afterwards.And pretty much everything from the Freeman side of the Bag End sequence was from the book.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 No, because the events of LOTR happen afterwards.And pretty much everything from the Freeman side of the Bag End sequence was from the book..Which is why most of it should have been jettisoned to allow the language of film to speak for itself and begin its cinematic narrative ebb and flow more eloquently and cohesively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 ThenNo, because the events of LOTR happen afterwards.And pretty much everything from the Freeman side of the Bag End sequence was from the book..Which is why most of it should have been jettisoned to allow the language of film to speak for itself and begin its cinematic narrative ebb and flow more eloquently and cohesively.Because its essential to the "moral" of the story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 No, because the events of LOTR happen afterwards.And pretty much everything from the Freeman side of the Bag End sequence was from the book..Which is why most of it should have been jettisoned to allow the language of film to speak for itself and begin its cinematic narrative ebb and flow more eloquently and cohesively.Which is of course rather tough shit if you blow up your 200-page children's book to a 9-hour EPICTM . This is now really old news, but i still think even a moneyhungry bastard producer should have lobbied for only two movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 ThenNo, because the events of LOTR happen afterwards.And pretty much everything from the Freeman side of the Bag End sequence was from the book..Which is why most of it should have been jettisoned to allow the language of film to speak for itself and begin its cinematic narrative ebb and flow more eloquently and cohesively.Because its essential to the "moral" of the story?Sure, but remember to bring an editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 No, because the events of LOTR happen afterwards.And the events of The Hobbit happen before. So?Are you saying that when you do a "prequel" to something that was a hit (like in Jackson's case), you're bound to fit in terms of tone (or other things) with the original story, but when you do a sequel to something that was a hit (like in Tolkien's case), you do not have to make it fit in terms of tone with the original story?Yes.The Silmarillion makes it shaky, a lot of it was written first, but it had not been published, and it was in a raw form at the time...ThenNo, because the events of LOTR happen afterwards.And pretty much everything from the Freeman side of the Bag End sequence was from the book..Which is why most of it should have been jettisoned to allow the language of film to speak for itself and begin its cinematic narrative ebb and flow more eloquently and cohesively.Because its essential to the "moral" of the story?Sure, but remember to bring an editor.Bring back John Gilbert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 God, I thought I accidentally clicked on one of the gazillion LOTR/Hobbit threads but no ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 No, because the events of LOTR happen afterwards.And pretty much everything from the Freeman side of the Bag End sequence was from the book..Which is why most of it should have been jettisoned to allow the language of film to speak for itself and begin its cinematic narrative ebb and flow more eloquently and cohesively.Which is of course rather tough !@#$%^&* if you blow up your 200-page children's book to a 9-hour EPICTM .Plus 30 or so pages of misc material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thanks for correcting me on that. Make sure to that i don't get all those fascinating names wrong, like Thoralf the gobsmacked Goblin of Gwindenlarf or Cerbus the mischievous mountain magus who once stole the stupendous sword of Swondelwald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 God, I thought I accidentally clicked on one of the gazillion LOTR/Hobbit threads but no ...I sympathise, I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Tell that to all the nerds I used to beat up in high school.Why'd you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Envy. A cold heart and stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 God, I thought I accidentally clicked on one of the gazillion LOTR/Hobbit threads but no ...A little Nolan quickie to cleanse the pallet, Alex?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Tell that to all the nerds I used to beat up in high school.Why'd you do that?Envy. A cold heart and stupidity.I had to get my lunch money somewhere! And prove I wasn't a nerd! And get a date to the sock hop!Sock hops are still a thing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I'm not talking to you anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Sock hops are still a thing, right?Beats me. Is it like a "Nolan quickie"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I'm not talking to you anymore!Would you change your mind if I admitted to sarcasm, and admitted further that I am, in fact, and always have been, a nerd? I have a band/orchestra award and a LOTR Fan Club card to verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Lots of people said the same about King Kong.king kong worked much better than the first shit film of the Hobbit series, perhaps his second film will have less problems.Yes that was my point. Just because something takes awhile to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. I love King Kong's 'three acts, three hours' structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Sock hops are still a thing, right?Beats me. Is it like a "Nolan quickie"?Is that when you pleasure yourself to Anne Hathaway's scenes in TDKR? Because that's definitely still a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 But you love every film, it doesnt count Koray.King Kong was a 3 hour film based on a 90 minute film. AUJ is a 3 hour film based on (mostly) 90 pages from a book.With the LOTR films he at least had enough (more then enough) actual content to fill his very long films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I'm not talking to you anymore! Would you change your mind if I admitted to sarcasm, and admitted further that I am, in fact, and always have been, a nerd? I have a band/orchestra award and a LOTR Fan Club card to verify.Way to ruin an online image! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Yeah. You could have been the coolest guy on JWFan and had all of us bow to your feet. But instead, you chose exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 No shit I genuinely thought we had James Dean in our midst. The REAL James Dean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm ruined. Expect a tirade wherein I expound on my retirement from the board, only to reappear under a slightly different username, claiming to be one of the cool kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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