publicist 4,647 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 My Beautiful Laundrette20 years before BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Stephen Frears did this free-spirited gay thingie in a Britain still under the stranglehold of Maggie Thatcher. Daniel Day-Lewis is the ambigious punk , Gordon Warnecke his pakistani boyfriend of sorts and together they open a laundrette in London that fuels and estranges their relationship. It's all done in a wonderful elusive style that is relationship drama and comedy of manners without ever really being either. It prompts me to do a little Frears retro in the next weeks with the mischievous DANGEROUS LIAISONS coming up next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,197 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I was meaning to see that film, but I'm always putting it off.By the way, you haven't seen Dangerous Liaisons?i LOVE it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 My Beautiful Laundrette20 years before BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Stephen Frears did this free-spirited gay thingie in a Britain still under the stranglehold of Maggie Thatcher. Daniel Day-Lewis is the ambigious punk , Gordon Warnecke his pakistani boyfriend of sorts and together they open a laundrette in London that fuels and estranges their relationship. It's all done in a wonderful elusive style that is relationship drama and comedy of manners without ever really being either. It prompts me to do a little Frears retro in the next weeks with the mischievous DANGEROUS LIAISONS coming up next.No mention of Zimmer's score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 They seemed to have completely missed the intention and focused on (very hip indeed) superficial aspects.That's Armond White in a nutshell.Wha?My Beautiful Laundrette20 years before BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Stephen Frears did this free-spirited gay thingie in a Britain still under the stranglehold of Maggie Thatcher. Daniel Day-Lewis is the ambigious punk , Gordon Warnecke his pakistani boyfriend of sorts and together they open a laundrette in London that fuels and estranges their relationship. It's all done in a wonderful elusive style that is relationship drama and comedy of manners without ever really being either. It prompts me to do a little Frears retro in the next weeks with the mischievous DANGEROUS LIAISONS coming up next.No mention of Zimmer's score? Stanley Myers's score, you mean? Zimmerbaby just did the bubble sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,197 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 My Beautiful Laundrette20 years before BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Stephen Frears did this free-spirited gay thingie in a Britain still under the stranglehold of Maggie Thatcher. Daniel Day-Lewis is the ambigious punk , Gordon Warnecke his pakistani boyfriend of sorts and together they open a laundrette in London that fuels and estranges their relationship. It's all done in a wonderful elusive style that is relationship drama and comedy of manners without ever really being either. It prompts me to do a little Frears retro in the next weeks with the mischievous DANGEROUS LIAISONS coming up next.No mention of Zimmer's score? here it says that Zimmer composed only this song, and the rest of the score is Myers. I don't understand why imdb says Ludus Tonalis.it's not even a person. (or is it??)http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0867108/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 By the way, you haven't seen Dangerous Liaisons?I have but it's been ages.No mention of Zimmer's score? Myers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 My Beautiful Laundrette20 years before BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Stephen Frears did this free-spirited gay thingie in a Britain still under the stranglehold of Maggie Thatcher. Daniel Day-Lewis is the ambigious punk , Gordon Warnecke his pakistani boyfriend of sorts and together they open a laundrette in London that fuels and estranges their relationship. It's all done in a wonderful elusive style that is relationship drama and comedy of manners without ever really being either. It prompts me to do a little Frears retro in the next weeks with the mischievous DANGEROUS LIAISONS coming up next.No mention of Zimmer's score? here it says that Zimmer composed only this song, and the rest of the score is Myers. I don't understand why imdb says Ludus Tonalis.it's not even a person. (or is it??)http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0867108/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr4Ludus Tonalis is a piece by Paul Hindemith. I haven't seen this film, maybe it's used in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 No mention of Zimmer's score? Myers!!It was technically both, but those early Myers collaborations were pretty much his testing grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quintus 5,449 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 My Beautiful Laundrette20 years before BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Stephen Frears did this free-spirited gay thingie in a Britain still under the stranglehold of Maggie Thatcher. Daniel Day-Lewis is the ambigious punk , Gordon Warnecke his pakistani boyfriend of sorts and together they open a laundrette in London that fuels and estranges their relationship. It's all done in a wonderful elusive style that is relationship drama and comedy of manners without ever really being either. It prompts me to do a little Frears retro in the next weeks with the mischievous DANGEROUS LIAISONS coming up next.Even though I was a child I remember the massive hype surrounding that film at the time, but I was always just terribly distracted by Day Lewis' revolting hair, and still am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,044 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 By the way, you haven't seen Dangerous Liaisons? I have but it's been ages. Same here. Is it on Blu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 That's such a perfect eighties movie, the actual period of the setting becomes secondary to the delicious look and feel which only that decade provides. Well worth a purchase on home release, and just a really good ensemble piece brimming with timeless wicked fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,572 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 They're making his Napoleon now aren't they?It's probably not a good idea.Very bad idea. It's never going to be a Kubrick film. Remember A.I.?Yes, and it was a great Spielberg film, which is what Kubrick wanted.I don't really like it as a Spielberg film either.I don't watch recent films.Any particular reason?Many..I have mentioned them a couple of times.1) the music (i like better the older concept of film music)2) 35mm vs the clean digital look3) puppets, live sets, miniatures, stop motion and traditional techniques of special effects vs. CGI4) general aesthetics and values which have changed substantially comparing to old films (this is a TV example but: I was watching previously the first episode of the 1987 TV series Beauty and the Beast, and I was thinking that in absolutely no way you could see something like that today!)5) genres that I love that don't exist today (eg. the classic Hollywood musical)and some psychological reasons..Not every new film is digital or about FX or has a Zimmer-ish score. Perhaps you should wait for new films to get old. After all, every old film was once new.As to different "general aesthetics and values", could you explain that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,197 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I don't watch recent films.Any particular reason?Many..I have mentioned them a couple of times.1) the music (i like better the older concept of film music)2) 35mm vs the clean digital look3) puppets, live sets, miniatures, stop motion and traditional techniques of special effects vs. CGI4) general aesthetics and values which have changed substantially comparing to old films (this is a TV example but: I was watching previously the first episode of the 1987 TV series Beauty and the Beast, and I was thinking that in absolutely no way you could see something like that today!)5) genres that I love that don't exist today (eg. the classic Hollywood musical)and some psychological reasons..Not every new film is digital or about FX or has a Zimmer-ish score. Perhaps you should wait for new films to get old. After all, every old film was once new.As to different "general aesthetics and values", could you explain that?eg.-An innocent comedy like "Pillow talk" wouldn't be shot today.Comedies would rely today mostly on obscene and sexual jokes etc.-The films today that aren't period ones, show the life and surroundings as they are today. I don't like "today", so watching the contemporary movies of the 30s, 40s, 50s etc. is like watching period films which I like (although they were not period films for someone living in the 30s, 40s and so on)-Adventures, Sci-fi etc. will rely on fast montage, quick changes, everything is "THE BIG MOMENT" and so on, to keep the interest of today's audience which is used to a much quicker information absorbance (due to internet mostly). Old films don't have that.. They rely on a more gradual building of suspense.-Theatrical performances (eg. think of All about Eve, Sunset Boulevard etc.) don't have any place in today's films. But I like that.i hope you got an idea what I mean..All these elements combined, make me prefer older films,,Of course, now and then there are some recent films I like, like the Black Swan.This, felt a bit to me like an older film (maybe 80s, 90s). Also it had the grainy film look that I love.. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 That's fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think it's incredibly dismissive, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Oh it is. But the guy likes what he likes and isn't shy about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,197 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think it's incredibly dismissive, but that's just me.Well, it is a bit, but I wouldn't call it "incredibly", because I kind of dismiss 15 years of films.. (of course there are exceptions as i said)Most people today (I mean the average movie-goer) watch ONLY recent films and dismiss 80 years of films! (1920-2000)* * *By the way, tonight I'll probably be watching The Right Stuff (1983).Looking forward to it since I have heard so many good words about it..I'm curious to see if it lives up to its fame. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Interesting.... I love the movie but I also was a kid during the early years of space exploration so it's near and dear to me. Of course I got to meet many of the astronauts through the years. They never understand how much larger than life they seem.I don't believe Dennis Quaid has ever been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Well, it is a bit, but I wouldn't call it "incredibly", because I kind of dismiss 15 years of films.. (of course there are exceptions as i said). Most people today (I mean the average movie-goer) watch ONLY recent films and dismiss 80 years of films! (1920-2000)Good point well made. So, are you dismissive, or just ignorant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 A bit of both I think.Filmmusic has some very odd opinions about how people watch movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I just think he stereotypes a bit too much about contemporary cinema. As a film fan, I don't discriminate on year, genre, types of special effects, etc. A good movie is a good movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 They've been making good movies from the beginning, and bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,436 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I don't discriminate on year, genre, types of special effects, etc. A good movie is a good movie. Yep. They've been making good movies from the beginning, and bad. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,436 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Jason you need to watch more old movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,436 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Jason you need to watch more old movies. Why do you think I haven't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Because you've admitted you haven't. I think everyone should watch old movies. And not just the classics. There are gems in every genre both in the A listers and the B movies even in the schlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,197 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Well, it is a bit, but I wouldn't call it "incredibly", because I kind of dismiss 15 years of films.. (of course there are exceptions as i said). Most people today (I mean the average movie-goer) watch ONLY recent films and dismiss 80 years of films! (1920-2000)Good point well made.So, are you dismissive, or just ignorant?i don't understand the question..I just think he stereotypes a bit too much about contemporary cinema. As a film fan, I don't discriminate on year, genre, types of special effects, etc. A good movie is a good movie.As Quint said previously, i know what i like.We can't like all the types of films, can we?I mean, do you like ALL genres of music? (classical, film, folk, pop, heavy metal, rap etc.)?So, I like the old cinema.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,713 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 your still limited by time, you can't watch everythingRight now I watch 1 or 2 new releases every week at the cinema, but I haven't watched older movies on video in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,436 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 We can't like all the types of films, can we?No, but we can like certain films/music within those genres.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,197 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 your still limited by time, you can't watch everythingRight now I watch 1 or 2 new releases every week at the cinema, but I haven't watch older movies on video in a whileOf course, that's why I watch only old films that I know i will probably like and want to discover all the films of the past that I hadn't seen so far..During the last years, I watch averagely a film each day.We can't like all the types of films, can we?No, but we can like certain films/music within those genres..Yes, as i said there are some exceptions.. Although very seldom..And they are usually films that remind me of the old ones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,713 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 You can hate romantic comedies for example and not watch any of them. That doesn't mean your scope is limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I don't understand how you can write off a whole genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,197 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I don't understand how you can write off a whole genre.At least I think I don't entirely dismiss any genre.(my discrimination is mostly due to year)I wasn't much into sports movies, but Rocky, the hustler, Field of Dreams, Hoosiers and some others made me change my mind.I wasn't much into comedies, but the old comedies, things like Bringing up Baby etc., made me also change my mind.I am not much into Woody Allen films, but lately I started changing that by seeing some movies and trying to understand the Woody Allen universe..And also I should start watching more foreign films.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 We can't like all the types of films, can we?I mean, do you like ALL genres of music? (classical, film, folk, pop, heavy metal, rap etc.)?To a degree, yes. I'm not a huge fan of country music in general, but I love Johnny Cash. Not too fond of metal, but I'll listen to Metallica. Perhaps I'm just a very open person that likes to experience new things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,197 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Ok.Anyway, i don't see anything wrong with having some specific film tastes.It seems like I'm dismissing films due to year without any reason, but it's not like that.I love specific elements in films (that i said in another post) that happen to appear in old films.If recent films had those elements too, I would watch them too...Also, I tried to verbalize those elements, but still I'm not entirely sure that i got it right.There may be others too that i can't say in words or can't understand them clearly but feel them when I see the films.For example I much prefer seeing a Schwarzenegger B-movie (eg. The Running Man) than the Dark Knight Rises.Maybe I can't explain clearly why.I often read in the comments of youtube videos of trailers of old films:"they don't make them like this anymore".I guess I'm not the only one that feels that way then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 They are both B movies at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Yes, but TDKR is a B movie with art movie pretentions, and unlike THE RUNNING MAN, has no camp value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Both can be satisfying in the right frame of mind. An accurate adaptation of the running man would lack camp for sure. One of King's most dystopian tales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 One or two new movies a week? Yikes. I'm glad I limit myself to that many a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Interesting.... I love the movie but I also was a kid during the early years of space exploration so it's near and dear to me. Of course I got to meet many of the astronauts through the years. They never understand how much larger than life they seem.I don't believe Dennis Quaid has ever been better.What astronauts did you meet Joey? It's a little known fact about me that I briefly worked for NASA/almost entered the astronaut corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,953 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I've met Alan Shepard, Neil, Buzz, and and Michael Collins, the 3 Apollo 11 crew. Several others but there names escape me. One of the benefits of scouting back then. Shepard was from New Hampshire where I lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I've met Alan Shepard, Neil, Buzz, and and Michael Collins, the 3 Apollo 11 crew. Several others but there names escape me. One of the benefits of scouting back then. Shepard was from New Hampshire where I lived.a true honor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,764 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Of course, now and then there are some recent films I like, like the Black Swan.This, felt a bit to me like an older film (maybe 80s, 90s). Also it had the grainy film look that I love..That's a curious thing to say, considering it was shot digitally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Film grain can be simulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,764 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Looked digital to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Maybe it was Konstantos's TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 You mean his 20" monitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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