Glóin the Dark 1,764 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 So... The Star Wars prequels... What did you guys think about them?Haven't seen them yet. Any good?(Actually, I did see the first one in the cinema, but I remember next to nothing about it.)
crocodile 9,511 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Does that mean he never heard the "sand" line?Karol
Glóin the Dark 1,764 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Does that mean he never heard the "sand" line?I have now. This looks like good stuff!
Glóin the Dark 1,764 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Robert Bolt and David Lean would have been kicking themselves at having missed the opportunity to get such a powerful and poetic description of the nature of sand into Lawrence of Arabia.
crocodile 9,511 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I wish I could just wish away my feelings, but I can't.Anyway, I watched The Return of the King. God, that was long.Karol
Incanus 5,884 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I wish I could just wish away my feelings, but I can't.Anyway, I watched The Return of the King. God, that was long.KarolThe Extended or the Theatrical Cut? Long and longer as you might put it. The Third Man: What a quintessential film noir that has influenced so many films that came after. As a fan of the genre I thoroughly enjoyed it.
crocodile 9,511 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Watched all three extended versions over the weekend with my mum. She's never seen them, but insisted on finishing the trilogy. Karol
Incanus 5,884 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I think the fact that I am a Tolkien fanatic ables me to largely stave off fatigue from the RotK EE but I have to say that watching all three of those EEs in a day long marathon was quite a feat even for me.
A24 5,017 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 "Fanatic" doesn't even begin to cover it, Incanus. 'Maniac' is more like it.
Glóin the Dark 1,764 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I don't think I ever watched the Extended Editions back to back. I did see the three short versions in the cinema all on one day ten years ago.
Incanus 5,884 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 "Fanatic" doesn't even begin to cover it, Incanus. 'Maniac' is more like it. I say fanatic, you say maniac, let's call the whole thing off.How about a zealot? Would zealot cut it for you?I don't think I ever watched the Extended Editions back to back. I did see the three short versions in the cinema all on one day ten years ago.It has been years since I saw any of the LotR films. I have been content to listen to the scores for my cinematic LotR experience.
Wojo 2,458 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I usually am content to do the same. I have watched the EE within the past year, though, for the first time in a long while, at my gf's request.
Jim 6,154 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 "Fanatic" doesn't even begin to cover it, Incanus. 'Maniac' is more like it. I say fanatic, you say maniac, let's call the whole thing off.How about a zealot? Would zealot cut it for you?Too moderate. You're an Imladris Extremist. Incanus 1
Koray Savas 2,259 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 The Third Man: What a quintessential film noir that has influenced so many films that came after. As a fan of the genre I thoroughly enjoyed it.One of the best films ever made.
Incanus 5,884 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 The Third Man: What a quintessential film noir that has influenced so many films that came after. As a fan of the genre I thoroughly enjoyed it.One of the best films ever made.It was really a high time for me to see this classic.
Jim 6,154 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Best scene is the big wheel one.No not the one in Prometheus.
Incanus 5,884 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Best scene is the big wheel one.No not the one in Prometheus.It's a great scene. I was mesmerized by Welles' performance, which is subtle yet powerful and drives home his character so well and so quickly.
crocodile 9,511 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I think the fact that I am a Tolkien fanatic ables me to largely stave off fatigue from the RotK EE but I have to say that watching all three of those EEs in a day long marathon was quite a feat even for me. Not one day. Three evenings.Karol
Incanus 5,884 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I think the fact that I am a Tolkien fanatic ables me to largely stave off fatigue from the RotK EE but I have to say that watching all three of those EEs in a day long marathon was quite a feat even for me. Not one day. Three evenings.KarolYeah I kind of figured. It is something sensible people would do. We Imladris Extremists are another case entirely.
crocodile 9,511 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Anyway, my mum loved both the film and music. Karol
Incanus 5,884 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Anyway, my mum loved both the film and music.KarolGood taste!
Koray Savas 2,259 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Best scene is the big wheel one.No not the one in Prometheus.It's a great scene. I was mesmerized by Welles' performance, which is subtle yet powerful and drives home his character so well and so quickly.My favorite moment in the film is the reveal of Lime. Favorite scene would have to be the sewer chase, by far.
A24 5,017 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 The Third Man: What a quintessential film noir that has influenced so many films that came after. As a fan of the genre I thoroughly enjoyed it.One of the best films ever made.I think it's rather dull. It needed more Welles for it's only then when magic is happening.
King Mark 3,907 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I may see The Wolf of Wall Street today, but I'm fearful of being bored by the first hour
A24 5,017 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Why would you go see a movie that you know will bore you?
King Mark 3,907 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 cause it's nominated for a few Oscars and it's Scorcese
A24 5,017 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Why fear boredom if you are a fan of Scorsese or hold the Oscars in high esteem? You are not telling me everything, KM!
Jim 6,154 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I don't fancy it AT ALL, but it's becoming another of those obligation movies purely as a result of people I know telling me how good it is, and apparently rather hilariously so.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,750 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Will it tell me anything about Wall Street apart from that its infested by arrogant, powerhungry people driven by greed?
Jim 6,154 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Probably not but I don't watch movies just to learn new things. We've got David Attenborough for that!
Jay 45,041 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 In 2003 I saw, theatrically, a marathon consistently of FOTR:EE, TTT:EE, and then the premier of ROTK (the theatrical cut, obviously).In 2004 when the ROTK EE came out, I watched all three EEs on DVD in one dayIn 2012 just before AUJ came out, there was a marathon in a local theater of all three EE films of the original trilogy. I hadn't seen the films in years. It was great, a fantastic time... but the flaws of ROTK were more pronounced to me than ever before. I wish the PJ that finished FOTR stayed the same through the completion of TTT and ROTK and only went nutso afterwards.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,750 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 When I went through the trilogy on Blu ray last year I noticed the same. ROTK is still brilliant when it gets things right. But it's by far the most uneven of the 3 LOTR films.
Koray Savas 2,259 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I haven't watch either version of the films in about 10 years. Got the trilogy on blu sitting on my shelf. It'll be a glorious day/week when I decide to revisit them.
Marian Schedenig 11,266 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I wish the PJ that finished FOTR stayed the same through the completion of TTT and ROTK and only went nutso afterwards. I've always assumed that PJ's insanity is to blame for these films' worse eccentricities. After all, he said himself that he could never do a straight horror film, because he could never resist exploiting the opportunities for silly gags. But it's been suggested to me by a friend who watched the Hobbit extras (I don't have any of the Hobbit Blus myself yet) that it might actually be Philippa Boyens who convinced him to stick to the silliness when he himself tried to restrain himself. As far as I recall, Boyens came into the LOTR films at a rather late stage, and it was of course her first collaboration with Jackson and Walsh. Could that be the real reason for FOTR's greater integrity, compared to the later films? When I went through the trilogy on Blu ray last year I noticed the same. ROTK is still brilliant when it gets things right. But it's by far the most uneven of the 3 LOTR films. Certainly. Always been like that.
Jay 45,041 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Yep. I feel the same way about the score for ROTK. But film and score need shortening to really shine imo.
JoeinAR 1,955 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 ROTK is the best of the three TTT is just a fucking mess of endless cgi battles between indistinguishable adversaries. All the music sounds the same to me. When Stefan says ROTK gets it right is he referring to the books?
Jay 45,041 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Joey you haven't seen TTT in a while it sounds like. The final battle in TTT is like 20 minutes out of a 3 hour movie. There is a ton of other stuff that happens in that movie.Don't you remember all the scenes with Frodo and Sam interacting with Gollum? Gollum talking to himself in the water reflection? Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli searching for their fallen comrades and meeting the men of Edoras? Eowyn wanting to fight for her people but being asked to lead everyone into hiding instead? Gandalf freeing the King of Edoras, Merry and Pippin talking to Treebeard, Frodo and Sam almost getting caught by the black gate, meeting Faramir, etc etc? It's not all about the final battle. Check it out again sometime!
Marian Schedenig 11,266 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Yep. I feel the same way about the score for ROTK. But film and score need shortening to really shine imo. I have no problems with the length. It's hard enough to accept the missing Scouring anyway. The pacing is inconsistent, but I don't mind most of the time. ROTK's biggest problems are a handful of scenes that go entirely against the Tolkien spirit.
Jay 45,041 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Right, and if you remove those scenes, you have a better film!Unfortunately it's hard to remove the biggest offense, and that's having Sam actually turn around and leave Frodo on the stairs of Cirith Ungol.
Glóin the Dark 1,764 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 My biggest Jackson-Tolkien marathon was on the opening day of The Return of the King. I watched it three times in a row, with equal measures of awe and horror each time.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,750 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Right, and if you remove those scenes, you have a better film!Unfortunately it's hard to remove the biggest offense, and that's having Sam actually turn around and leave Frodo on the stairs of Cirith Ungol.that and the fact that Arwen's story doesnt go anywhere. so they just have her become ill for some reason.
Jay 45,041 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 That's not an offensive change to the spirit of Tolkien, though. That's just.... a boring and useless addition to the film (because it's not fleshed out properly). Had the library scene been restored to the EE, I'm sure it would have all made more sense. I dunno.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,750 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 We will never know....
KK 3,310 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Contrary to most here, RotK is still my favourite. It's the most-flawed of the 3, yes, but still the most moving and awe-inspiring of the trilogy.
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,261 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 They're all perfect! You're all cynical poo-heads! KK and mrbellamy 2
crocodile 9,511 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 The best thing about EE of King is the Gondor siege - it feels like it actually takes place over longer period of time.Karol
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