A24 4,331 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 It's just too messy and rambunctious for me. Epic messiness is a cardinal sin.I consider it the necessary slap in the face Spielberg needed to get his act together.Somebody should slap him in the face again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 It's just too messy and rambunctious for me. Epic messiness is a cardinal sin.I consider it the necessary slap in the face Spielberg needed to get his act together.Somebody should slap him in the face again! You seem like the right fellow for the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Caché I've been meaning to see this film for, well, I guess 10 years, and I finally did! And it was... well-made, but unsatisfying? The plot involves a Parisian family who one day receives a package on their front door showing them a long video recording of the outside of their apartment - essentially letting them know they're being watched. More videos come in and soon the father is heading out to try to figure out what they're all about. I shouldn't say any more because its better to have the story unfold for you when you're watching. The acting is great - Daniel Auteuil as the dad, Juliette Binoche as the mom, Lester Makedonsky as their son, and Maurice Bénichou as a man from the father's past all really embody their roles. Most of the film is shot so that the audience feels like its spying on the goings-on, which is cool. So it all comes down to the plot, and if its good enough to warrant a full recommendation. Well.... I dunno! I watched this weeks ago now, and I find I'm still pondering on it. I have my own theories on what really went on, but I like the open-to-interpretation nature of it too, I think. The one thing I don't get is why this makes lists of "the best films of the 2000s"? I mean, come on - does anybody really think its that good? Or were they just swept up in the hype? Maybe my opinion will change if I see it again - I imagine there's a lot of clues and subtle things to be noticed on repeat viewings. Interesting film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmm 91 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Its certainly a film that lingers. As I remmeber it was a film that really got under your skin, making you feel uneasy. Probably should watch it again one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I loved watching Caché. It made a Haneke fan out of me.(*not Heineken) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I've never seen any of his other films, gotta check em out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 TomorrowlandGreat cast, nice premise and a lot of potential. But in the end, it's kind of empty isn't it? I came in expecting mediocrity, but it's actually rather decent. The first hour is good stuff, but it all falls flat by the third act. It takes a couple of leaps of logic, and I'm not sure how exactly Bird was trying to tie everything together. I didn't even mind how hard the film was trying to drive its message to the audience, but for all the talk of dreaming, there's actually very little of it you see on screen. And the wonders of "Tomorrowland" are reduced to a 2-5 min sequence, and then the next time you're there, you're basically at the film's climax. I mean it's decent stuff. Just seems incomplete.Oh and Giacchino's score, in its utter banality, was pretty distracting to me. The mundane themes kept playing without sync to picture's emotional beats, and unfortunately, in almost in-verbatim quotes. But I think my problem is more with the music itself, than how it serves the film. Those annoying trumpets certainly weren't doing the film any favours. There was one nice choral cue that I didn't remember hearing on album though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 There was one nice choral cue that I didn't remember hearing on album though.When Casey touches the pin in the car and sees the wheatfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 It's the part where Clooney is flying with the Athena girl near the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 That's "Electric Dreams" on the OST. Here's a breakdown of releases vs unreleased music, btw https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t0UuYZLqk_O3eWpS9bvobA6Okj7I4JIl6rVcQoVEcDo/pubhtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,352 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 For Your Eyes Only - once again, the Bond series opts for a more down-to-Earth 'palate cleanser' after a possibly overly fantastical predecessor (see also YOLT being followed by OHMSS and DAD being followed by the complete rethink of CR). The stuff with 'we're-not-calling-him-Blofeld-McClory's-lawyers-are-watching' in the pre-credits sequence and the Thatcher/parrot stuff at the end are a touch cringeworthy now, but the rest of this mostly makes for a fine Bond film. Particular highlights for me include Moore's most ruthless moment as 007 (the kicking off the cliff-edge of Locque's car), the genuinely suspenseful ascent to St. Cyril's and one of the finest endings to a Cold War-era Bond ever ('That's detente, Comrade. You don't have it, I don't have it'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Kingsman: The Secret ServiceIt was okay. I liked the underlying theme but it doesn't have that Vaughn magic that sparkled in Stardust and X-Men: First Class. Taron Egerton is good, Colin Firth even better, but Samuel L. Jackson phones it in -- with a really annoying lisp to boot. People raved about how good it was, but I don't really see it. There's a few standout sequences, but it's too vulgar and absurd to really gel together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I loved how it portrayed global warming nutters as the villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I thought Kingsman was a lot of fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Kingsman: The Secret Service People raved about how good it was, but I don't really see it. This. I kinda endured it. One of the most forgettable things I've seen of late.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I did like the dual 'Manners Maketh a Man' bar scenes. Violent, hilarious... those made the movie spark to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The RescuersIt's sporadically funny and has its moments, but apart from Geraldine Page's wonderfully tacky Madame Medusa, it's rather slight and the simpler animation doesn't age well. There's not much of the traditional Disney magic in this movie, it's rather dark and Medusa's alligator sidekicks will give young children nightmares.I remember watching it over and over as a kid, so I do have a soft spot for this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Made during the time when Disney had rather lost their spark. But it's entertaining still. Much like Robin Hood or The Great Mouse Detective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Young children watch horror movies these days. They think Disney is for embryos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 That's just shitty parenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Made during the time when Disney had rather lost their spark. But it's entertaining still. Much like Robin Hood or The Great Mouse Detective.Robin Hood is one of their best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It's like some scatterbrained sequel to The Jungle Book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Made during the time when Disney had rather lost their spark. But it's entertaining still. Much like Robin Hood or The Great Mouse Detective.The Rescuers really comes to life in its final 30 minutes. A lot of attention went into the cave sequence, and it's actually still suspenseful. Had the filmmaking crew gave the amount of attention to the first half like they did with the finale, it would've been better overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 That's just shitty parenting.Weren't you one of the members here who watched Alien when you were like 4 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I don't remember anything about being four years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Alien isnt horror, it's sci-fi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Made during the time when Disney had rather lost their spark. But it's entertaining still. Much like Robin Hood or The Great Mouse Detective.Robin Hood is one of their best!And The Sword in the Stone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Alien isnt horror, it's sci-fi! A movie can be both. Rape horror is, after all, a very narrow genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I have a huge sentimental attachment to Robin Hood, but its no where near the best Disney has done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 BeetlejuiceA weird, weird movie this is. But a lot of fun exactly because of its weirdness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Burton's best film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 How many Burtons have you seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Beetlejuice, the Batman's, Planet Of The Apes and Mars Attacks....Not a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 He can be quite terrible (Alice In Wonderland, anyone?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 More like Alice in Blunderland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think Steef would like Big Fish though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 I enjoyed Big Fish both times I've watched it, but it doesn't linger at all. I instantly forgot most of it and have had no desire to see it again since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Same with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think Steef would like Big Fish though.Why? Is it sci-fi or fantasy?Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Fantasy!But it's mainly a movie for people who like 'warm' movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Beetlejuice, the Batman's, Planet Of The Apes and Mars Attacks....Not a fanNot Ed Wood? I don't care much for Burton most of the time (or Elfman for that matter), but that one is special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think Steef would like Big Fish though.Why? Is it sci-fi or fantasy?Sigh...It was middling and ultimately just another average movie from an overrated director. Croc - "but how is he overrated though?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I stopped caring for Burton's movies after POTA. Big Fish was okay, but never returned to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Beetlejuice, the Batman's, Planet Of The Apes and Mars Attacks....Not a fanNot Ed Wood? I don't care much for Burton most of the time (or Elfman for that matter), but that one is special.Thank god it wasn't Elfman on that one. My favorite Burtons all have that in common ... no Elfman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Beetlejuice, the Batman's, Planet Of The Apes and Mars Attacks....Not a fanNot Ed Wood? I don't care much for Burton most of the time (or Elfman for that matter), but that one is special.Definitely . Burton is one of those directors whose talent I recognize but he very rarely seems to put things together or pick engaging projects.Sleepy Hollow deserves mention among his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Really? I thought that was one of his very worst. Maybe I saw it from a wrong perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Is the TV show better, Alex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Burton's best films are without question Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, Beetlejuice, Batman, Batman Returns, Ed Wood, and I suppose I'd throw Edward Scissorhands in there because it is apparently beloved, although it's never been a favorite of mine. But the point is, everything since then has been mediocre or pure shit. I suspect he was abducted by aliens and replaced with an inferior version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ed Wood and Sleepy Hollow are the only movies by Burton in truly enjoy. The later does have the usual Burton problems with the third act, but it is the one project where Burton's visual sensibilities totally paid off. I adore the sequence the whole sequence of Michael Gambon telling the tale of the Horseman. The music in that sequence is also terrific. The score, like the movie, does lose its way a bit in the second half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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