A24 4,331 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 14 hours ago, nightscape94 said: I never got the feeling that Inception was claiming some high concept or being condescending to its audience. It's just a neat idea executed with clarity in the direction. Why would Inception be condescending to its audience? I never heard that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I have. It's just one of the typical slogans of the anti-Nolanites, as much as "it's too deep for you to get" is for the deluded superfans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I agree with Alex, i've not heard that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I always thought Inception is like a labyrinth designed to make people feel smart if they find the exit. This is quite the opposite to being condescending (or is it?) Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 That's probably why it was so successful. It flatters the viewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Ugh, you're both as bad as the sycophants, congratulating yourselves for being too clever for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Hardly. I quite like Inception. It's stylish and at times very clever heist movie with some nice points of interest. It's nothing more then that IMO, but it's fine for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Point Break (1991) Ridiculous, poorly acted and dumb. In retrospect, I think I only watched it because of the reference in Hot Fuzz. Then again, they kept mentioning it in the same sentences as Bad Boys II, so I guess I had this coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 The recent remake is even worse apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 15 hours ago, Sharky said: I thought at its core, Inception had a neat Borgesian love story that was sidelined in favour of a videogame heist. A simple idea over-embellished in plot mechanics, as in the case of Interstellar. That was my main issue with it. From the moment it turned into a Bond style actioner in the snow I was instantly reminded of the Call of Duty Modern Warfare games and how derivative it all was. In the aftermath people here kept telling me how classy it all was and I was like really? To me the movie let itself down. Oh, and the exxxxxxposiiiiiiitiiiiionnnnn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Inception is terrific blockbuster cinema. Not more than that. But not less either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Romão said: Inception is terrific blockbuster cinema. Not more than that. But not less either This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 41 minutes ago, Stefancos said: The recent remake is even worse apparently That might even help. Apart from Keanu Reeves' acting, the movie wasn't bad enough to slip into the entertaining schlock category. It was just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Some well shot action scenes though. Bigalow is good at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 The chase was good, as was the final bank robbery. And I'll admit the skydiving scenes were very well done. But it's all without substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mr. Breathmask said: The chase was good, as was the final bank robbery. And I'll admit the skydiving scenes were very well done. But it's all without substance. It's an action thriller movie, not Tarkovsky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 You can have an action thriller with interesting characters having interesting drama or chemistry, Alex. But Point Break doesn't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Point Break was a bit of a meaningful gem to me as a teenager. I'd probably cringe a bit now, but hey there's nothing wrong with loving something and then outgrowing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 23 minutes ago, Mr. Breathmask said: You can have an action thriller with interesting characters having interesting drama or chemistry, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Mad Max didn't strike me as interesting at all in Fury Road, quite the opposite. There's more substance in Snyder's Sucker Punch than there is in Mad Max: Fury Road. What a strange day again here at JWfan! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Was Indiana Jones from Ohio also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Tried THIN RED LINE again. If i had to describe it in one word, it would be untidy. Words are Malick's curse, images his blessing and there are quite a few that stay. Why on earth he doesn't do experimental docs about nature mysticism & men's nature etc. with just images, sound and music is beyond me - he is obviously not interested in anything besides it. Zimmer and gang halfway make sense out of the existenzialist mess in front of them musically but one stays perplexed at all the resources put behind something so half-baked. Well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 12 hours ago, Woj said: So I'm going to assume you never read Jaws or Forrest Gump or The Godfather. The movies are superior. Correct, never read those. In the past 20 years, I've read like 5 books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: With a main character called Johnny Utah who comes from Ohio, the movie tells you everything you need to know about it. A great movie if you approach it the right way! Point Break may be ridiculous, but it's ridiculous fun. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: It's hilarious. With a main character called Johnny Utah who comes from Ohio, the movie tells you everything you need to know about it. A great movie if you approach it the right way! I seem to have wandered into a thread where the greatness of Point Break is being called into question. Compulsion (1959) Like Rope, this one is also based on the infamous Leopold and Loeb case, and, again, like Rope, it is superb. Superb performances from Orson Welles, E.G. Marshall, Dean Stockwell and especially Bradford Dillman, who, as the ringleader of the dastardly duo, is as good as John Dall in Rope. Richard Fleischer made so many great films, but this is right up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 2 hours ago, publicist said: Tried THIN RED LINE again. If i had to describe it in one word, it would be untidy. Words are Malick's curse, images his blessing and there are quite a few that stay. Why on earth he doesn't do experimental docs about nature mysticism & men's nature etc. with just images, sound and music is beyond me - he is obviously not interested in anything besides it. Zimmer and gang halfway make sense out of the existenzialist mess in front of them musically but one stays perplexed at all the resources put behind something so half-baked. Well... Never entirely worked for me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 My favorite war picture. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Oh god... Now on to another movie, needs much too long to cut to the chase but when it does...well...it rolls. Has anyone seen that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Sorcerer? A fucking masterpiece. Amazing Tangerine Dream score too. Choosing between that and Thief is nigh-on impossible. Muad'Dib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Alex likes that one, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 This is the remake. I like the original film (La Salaire De La Peur). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I prefer The Wages of Fear myself. Sorcerer is minor Friedkin, although TG's score holds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Cloud Atlas I don't think my opinion about any other film fluctuates as much as it does of this one. This time, I thought it was quite good and moving despite preachy moments. The score is phenomenal, sublime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 9 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: My favorite war picture. One of my favorite pictures. 13 hours ago, publicist said: Tried THIN RED LINE again. If i had to describe it in one word, it would be untidy. Words are Malick's curse, images his blessing and there are quite a few that stay. Why on earth he doesn't do experimental docs about nature mysticism & men's nature etc. with just images, sound and music is beyond me - he is obviously not interested in anything besides it. Zimmer and gang halfway make sense out of the existenzialist mess in front of them musically but one stays perplexed at all the resources put behind something so half-baked. Well... You should be looking forward to Voyage Of Time, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The Morricone one, right? The great thing is: even if he's putting some 'Lachrymosa' bs in the film, the record will have the Morricone version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,357 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Mission Impossible : Rogue Nation - probably the most enjoyable MI movie since the first one, although after all the spectacular setpieces there's something possibly a little flat about how bad guy Sean Harris is finally neutralised. SPECTRE - not without its flaws, but overall still very enjoyable Bond. Happy to call it Craig's 2nd best, after Skyfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hmm, flaws ... Was it unsharp? Was the boom mic in frame? What are flaws? Are there flaws in art? Maybe only the artist himself would know? Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 On 2/26/2016 at 0:38 PM, Romão said: Inception is terrific blockbuster cinema. Not more than that. But not less either To be honest, I miss a ton of stuff from it. It introduces things like the folding city that are never put to use. Or the look of the characters. I know people like it, but what if it looked like a retrofuturist 30's gangster movie? I dunno. The characters themselves I think lack charisma and personality. You can barely describe Ariadne as "the girl", although that often happens with women in Nolan's movies. At least, unlike Interstellar, it has a sense of narrative progression to a climax. Interstellar is a film that goes around in circles nor knowing what to do. I think Nolan should try another space movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, Brónach said: The characters themselves I think lack charisma and personality. Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Well, whatever Nolan does, one cannot accuse him of not inspiring debates over the content of his movies. Again and again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, publicist said: Well, whatever Nolan does, one cannot accuse him of not inspiring debates over the content of his movies. Again and again and again. Like the Star Wars Prequels. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Nolan is the new George Lucas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Then let's wait for the whitebread JJ Abrams remakes everyone loves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Slow West Unconventional, stylish Western with wonderful, breathtaking landscapes, weird lenses and arty approach. The actors do their best but feel somewhat secondary and occasionally there is something about the credibility of their actions. All in all, nice to have seen once, but it's not a keeper. 6/10 Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Who has seen and would recommend Jodorowsky's Dune? Alex? I thought I had seen this, but I can't remember a thing about it if so. The score has me understandably intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Reverend crocs has seen it, TPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 It is canon law for the faithful, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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