What Is The Last Film You Watched? (Older Films)

[BloodBoal 7,541]

I think BloodBoal might take Game of Thrones off that list soon too

Yep. It's going down that road slowly but surely.

[KK 3,308]

Pssh....if you say so...

Did you see the season finale yet?

[BloodBoal 7,541]

[Jay 40,309]

Do you like anything released before the 2000s?

[BloodBoal 7,541]

[Jay 40,309]

You like Star Wars?

[KK 3,308]

Soon, my friend, soon...

You're probably not going to like it. I can already see your long list of complaints coming.

[Koray Savas 2,254]

Do you like anything released before the 2000s?

Give him a break, he was born in 2000.

[BloodBoal 7,541]

[Matt C 482]

Green Lantern

I've rewatched it last night... and I still don't see why people hate it. The biggest sin is that the film crams in two films' worth of material, and rushes through it (and what's worse, Parallax is horribly utilized). And the performances from the supporting cast -- like Tim Robbins and Peter Sarsgaard -- are just hammy and lack nuance. The main cast wasn't problematic, including Blake Lively.

But whenever Hal is exploring his powers and Oa-centered scenes come on, the movie hits those delicious highs a good superhero film gets. And for the flack they got, I thought Sony Pictures Imageworks did an impressive job on the GL suits. They weren't photorealistic like WETA or ILM's motion-capture work, but they were impressively detailed and convincing overall.

And you could tell Martin Campbell was out of his depth here. Some of the action scenes lack his signature flair, but I attribute that to his inexperience with a film with so many CGI shots. A more experienced director like Matthew Vaughn would've changed this into a truly exciting movie. And James Newton Howard's score was a big miss -- some good nuggets amidst a forgettable mush.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,488]

A more experienced director like Matthew Vaughn would've changed this into a truly exciting movie.

Lets see.

Martin Campbell born 1943. Has many dozens of directorial credits to his name in film and TV in a career that began in the mid 70's.

Matthew Vaughn born 1971 has directed 4 films....

Your statement is suspect to say the least...

[Jay 40,309]

Well, both director's only have two GOOD films....

[Matt C 482]

Lets see.

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Your statement is suspect to say the least...

There's a clear difference between directing a dozen films with little to no CGI... and Campbell's inexperience with CGI-heavy productions shows. You are right that Vaughn has only four films under his belt, but he has a better grasp of handling big films with lots of CGI. His prowess in Stardust and X-Men: First Class was very surprising, all things considered.

[Jay 40,309]

Stardust is a wonderful film. XMFC is not.

[BloodBoal 7,541]

[KK 3,308]

Stardust is a wonderful film. XMFC is not.

Thank you. There was way too much buzz around that movie....

[Wojo 2,456]

XMFC had wonderful chemistry between Fassbender and McAvoy, a wonderfully bland performance by January Jones, a wonderfully bad paint job on Azazel's face, a wonderfully verbose cameo by Hugh Jackman, a wonderfully typical cameo by Michael Ironside as a military man, a wonderfully cliche cameo by Rade Sherbedgia as a Russian, and was wonderfully better than the Wolverine standalone movie.

I think it was wonderful.

[BloodBoal 7,541]

was wonderfully better than the Wolverine standalone movie.

That wasn't difficult to achieve.

[alicebrallice 134]

super 8

gets better every time I watch it. we've been saying stuff's "mint" all day, lol. and the score... perfection.

now: carnage

later tonight: chronicle

[Jay 40,309]

While First Class isn't an amazing film, it still is my favourite X-Men film.

[BloodBoal 7,541]

Yep.

[KK 3,308]

Is it awful? No.

Is it better than Wolverine? Yes.

Is it the best X-Men film? No.

Is it decent? Yes.

Is it as wonderful as everyone says it is? No.

Is it overrated? Hell yea.

Fassbender is pretty much the only good thing to get out of this film...

[Jay 40,309]

X2 is easily the best X-Men film. X-Men 3 and First Class are terrible. Never saw Wolverine.

[Quintus 5,495]

As someone who isn't big on X-Men, I found the Wolverine movie to be perfectly decent stuff.

[BloodBoal 7,541]

Wow. And I thought you were a decent guy...

[Wojo 2,456]

I did think that Sabretooth got a better treatment in the Wolverine movie than he got in the first X-Men movie, in which he could have been replaced with any old Brotherhood mutant. Trouble is, that retcon disrupted any kind of continuity they were going for.

And Logan's love interest was easy on the eyes.

[Brónach 1,307]

X2 is easily the best X-Men film. X-Men 3 and First Class are terrible. Never saw Wolverine.

First Class isn't terrible. The basic concept and storyline is good, many scenes are great, and the rythm and emotional progression is fucking great.

Personaly, my ideal X-Men film would be the 60's stuff in this film plus the original team from the comics. The way First Class is, it's missing that.

[Koray Savas 2,254]

Well, both director's only have two GOOD films....

Martin Campbell does have a couple good films - The Mask Of Zorro and Vertical Limit. He's got three great films - GoldenEye, Casino Royale, and Edge Of Darkness.

As for Vaughn, I've only seen Kick-Ass, which I'd say is an okay action film. I heard Layer Cake is good, though.

Regarding the X-Men conversation, they all suck. Wolverine is the epitome of cliche screenwriting. It literally has an overheard pull out as Hugh Jackman screams "Nooooo!!!" to his dead girlfriend. I haven't seen First Class.

[Jay 40,309]

I was referring to Goldeneye and Casino Royale for Campbell and Stardust and Kick-Ass for Vaughn

[Koray Savas 2,254]

Have you seen any of their others? Thoughts?

[JoeinAR 1,953]

X2 is easily the best X-Men film. X-Men 3 and First Class are terrible. Never saw Wolverine.

First Class is lots of things, but terrible it isn't.

I agree X2 is the best but it is also a clone of Wrath of Khan. X-Men is terrific stuff. X3 and Wolverine are tolerable with some good moments, but nothing outright terrible either.

[Quintus 5,495]

Neither is X-Men 3.

[Koray Savas 2,254]

Nah, The Last Stand is pretty terrible.

[JoeinAR 1,953]

terrible should be saved for terrible movies, underwhelming might suit these questionable films.

[Matt C 482]

Stardust is a wonderful film. XMFC is not.

I was referring to Vaughn's handle on CGI-intensive sequences.

[Koray Savas 2,254]

They're not underwhelming to me, they're genuinely bad in terms of direction and writing. Perhaps not the whole product, music, effects, what have you, can elevate the film to a certain degree, but like it's been discussed here recently - without a great script you're not going to have a great movie.

The way they wrote James Marsden's role because he was busier with Superman Returns, how the climax switches from day to night instantly, the generally poor acting and dialogue, etc. That terrible forest scene with Wolverine was The Last Stand right?

[JoeinAR 1,953]

Is it awful? No.

Is it better than Wolverine? Yes.

Is it the best X-Men film? No.

Is it decent? Yes.

Is it as wonderful as everyone says it is? No.

Is it overrated? Hell yea.

Fassbender is pretty much the only good thing to get out of this film...

erroneous.

Kevin Bacon is excellent, gleefully evil.

They're not underwhelming to me, they're genuinely bad in terms of direction and writing. Perhaps not the whole product, music, effects, what have you, can elevate the film to a certain degree, but like it's been discussed here recently - without a great script you're not going to have a great movie.

not true at all. You can have an adequate script and still end up with a great film.

[Matt C 482]

Wolverine is the epitome of cliche screenwriting. It literally has an overheard pull out as Hugh Jackman screams "Nooooo!!!" to his dead girlfriend. I haven't seen First Class.

I hate Wolverine. It was the first X-Men film I felt disappointed and angry at after seeing it in theaters. (I'm shocked Hugh Jackman didn't demand a better script before he signed on for it.) I didn't feel that way with X-Men: The Last Stand -- I enjoyed it but after it finished, I was like "is that it?"

And you should check out First Class, just for Michael Fassbender and Jennifer Lawrence alone. But January Jones is terribly miscast, they should've kept Alice Eve in the Emma Frost role.

[Koray Savas 2,254]

Oh yeah The Last Stand is definitely better, but I still think it's a mess of a film. I'll probably see First Class on HBO or something. I have no desire to actively seek it out.

[Brónach 1,307]

I have no desire to see The Last Stand. I might just read the Dark Phoenix saga and Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men instead.

[crocodile 8,739]

It's not THAT terrible. There are far more offensive films out there. I like it more than many supposedly better comic book movies. It's just... undercooked.

Karol

[Jay 40,309]

Have you seen any of their others? Thoughts?

I've seen all 4 of Vaughn's movies:

Layer Cake - OK, nothing special, kinda slow

Stardust - Great!

Kick-Ass - Really great!

X-Men First Class - Awful

For Martin Campbell, I've seen:

GoldenEye - A great Bond film, entertaining from start to finish, classic spy stuff.

The Mask of Zorro - Don't remember much about it, I think I was entertained enough when I saw it 14 years go

Vertical Limit - Forgettable

Beyond Borders - Forgettable / Awful

Casino Royale - Another great Bond film, vastly different from Goldeneye but still highly entertaining

I'd like to see Green Lantern and Edge of Darkness sometime

[JoeinAR 1,953]

if you want to talk TERRIBLE, don't talk about the X men sequels, Watch Green Lantern, then discuss terrible.

[crocodile 8,739]

I didn't even bother with this one.

Karol

[Koray Savas 2,254]

I'd like to see Green Lantern and Edge of Darkness sometime

I saw part of The Green Lantern at a friend's house. It was really only 5-10 minutes but it didn't seem good at all. Edge Of Darkness is a great thriller, really slow and brooding, if you like that sort of Fincheresque stuff.

[Marian Schedenig 9,388]

I've seen all 4 of Vaughn's movies:

Layer Cake - OK, nothing special, kinda slow

Stardust - Great!

Kick-Ass - Really great!

X-Men First Class - Awful

Layer Cake gets bonus points for having Colm Meaney though. I adore Stardust. Been meaning to see Kick-Ass, but I didn't know it was by Vaughn.

[Matt C 482]

if you want to talk TERRIBLE, don't talk about the X men sequels, Watch Green Lantern, then discuss terrible.

Oh bite me.

I saw part of The Green Lantern at a friend's house. It was really only 5-10 minutes but it didn't seem good at all.

You need to watch the rest of it, or at least an hour of it. If you only saw 5-10 minutes of it, chances are you didn't see any of the better scenes I mentioned (like the planet Oa scenes with Mark Strong or the little Hal/Carol scenes later on). I don't agree with people saying it is Catwoman and Batman & Robin-level bad.

There's nothing in GL that can't be fixed in a sequel, if WB ever pulls the trigger on one.

[Koray Savas 2,254]

Yeah Catwoman is not terrible, it's atrocious. I think it was the training scene where they were having him defend himself with the green stuff or whatever.

[Brónach 1,307]

They're playing X-Men 2 on TV. My favourite X-Men film. However, the filmmakers seem to hate Cyclops. That annoys me. Also the lack of Magneto affects the film a bit.

[JoeinAR 1,953]

if you want to talk TERRIBLE, don't talk about the X men sequels, Watch Green Lantern, then discuss terrible.

Oh bite me.

I saw part of The Green Lantern at a friend's house. It was really only 5-10 minutes but it didn't seem good at all.

You need to watch the rest of it, or at least an hour of it. If you only saw 5-10 minutes of it, chances are you didn't see any of the better scenes I mentioned (like the planet Oa scenes with Mark Strong or the little Hal/Carol scenes later on). I don't agree with people saying it is Catwoman and Batman & Robin-level bad.

There's nothing in GL that can't be fixed in a sequel, if WB ever pulls the trigger on one.

it was so bad we don't need a sequel, ever.

Of course maybe they should make a Gay Green Lantern Movie, he can make a green condom with his powers ribbed for his pleasure and his....

Tom Cruise could play him.