A24 4,331 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Well, Chen, you didn't like 2001: ASO so it kinda makes sense that you were impressed with something like Wonder Woman. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 It wasn't bad. I just like looking at Gal Gadot's finely carved calves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2001 has too few female roles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Stankub was a misogynist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 But the anti-gravity stewardess is key to the movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 HAL should have been SAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Well, Chen, you didn't like 2001: ASO I didn't like it?! 17 minutes ago, Stefancos said: 2001 has too few female roles! Which is to say nothing of Lawrence of Arabia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Hollywood bigotry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Master and Commander is like an old gentlemans only club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Quintus said: Master and Commander is like an old gentlemans only club. With a pin up of a Carribbean beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Brazilian, actually, if I seem to remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Gggggrrrrr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: HAL should have been SAL! He is...kind of. Isn't SAL, HAL'S "sister" computer, on Earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I didn't like Wonder Woman at all either, and was also confused by why it was praised so heavily. Actually, I also didn't like Black Panther at all, and also was confused by why that was praised so heavily I enjoyed Man of Steel, Batman V Superman, Suicide Squad, and Justice League more than Wonder Woman (not that any of them were great, by any means). And I enjoyed most all of the MCU movies more than Black Panther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 You obviously prefer cis white male oriented media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Nah, they were just weak scripts full of cliches and didn't even have any good actions scenes to make up for a lack of anything interesting story-wise SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I agree that the action in these was poorly done. I would have preferred a George Miller Wonder Woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I enjoyed both, but neither was as good as their hype suggested they would be. Both were sort of built up as two of the greatest superhero movies of all time, and genre defining, etc., but they both just ended up being competent, above average entries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, Jay said: Nah, they were just weak scripts full of cliches and didn't even have any good actions scenes to make up for a lack of anything interesting story-wise Agreed. The dialogue was just terrible in Wonder Woman, and the color grading and slow motion overload just screamed Snyder to me. Patty Jenkins left no mark on this film that I could discern. Even the music was dull, except for the standout Tina Guo theme on cello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 You mean the Zimmer theme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I just thought it was decent 40s serial fluff. Nothing special but not terrible either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 There is still hope for JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: There is still hope for JWFan. Ridley Scott's best films are Matchstick Men, American Gangster, and The Martian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Ridley Scott's best films are Matchstick Men, American Gangster, and The Martian. G.I. Jane, White Squal and Someone To Watch Over Me. Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Alien Cummenent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: G.I. Jane, White Squal and Someone To Watch Over Me. All great contenders for the top, but I wanted to limit it to three! Just now, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Alien Cummenent! Ew, no. Ridley Scott's sci-fi movies suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Err what about Promeefiuff?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Gladiator, Blade Runner and the 1984 Apple commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Err what about Promeefiuff?? Better than Covenant, I guess, but really Ridley Scott was obviously never meant for sci-fi. 1 minute ago, Steve McQueen said: Gladiator and the 1984 Apple commercial. Gladiator is great! The Apple commercial showed some promise in Scott as a potential sci-fi director, but after Prometheus it seems that was just a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Nick1066 said: neither was as good as their hype suggested they would be. Both were sort of built up as two of the greatest superhero movies of all time, and genre defining, etc., but they both just ended up being competent, above average entries. I pretty much agree, except for the above average part. They are competent, and probably "good enough" for the teenage audience that let's be honest all these comic book movies are truly aimed at, but they offer nothing exciting for people who like actual quality films. And comic book movies CAN satisfy that need sometimes - Winter Soldier for example is both a good comic book movie and just a GOOD movie. Or stuff like say, Ant-man and the Guardians movies are funny enough that I enjoy the comedy and don't care that the stories are probably weak if you think about them too much. A nothing-stellar script can be elevated by other aspects such as inspired directing, set design, set pieces, etc etc, but I didn't feel that WW or BP brought much of anything to the screen at all that is worth remembering. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 When in Florida I spent the evenings gazing at the stars-and after that I'd watch a movie. Murder on the Orient Express Star-studded film is a good mystery, but isn't a must see. Kenneth Branagh is superb as a chief inspector whisked into a case on the very train he rides. There are many plausible suspects, but it doesn't end at all the way you think. Fairly good, but not amazing. I liked it. The Illusionist It plays with the mind, but when the time of realization comes about, the credits roll too quickly. I was befuddled at the quick montage explanation at the end of the movie, and had to rewind and see it again to fully grasp the twist. Flawed but focused, and not my style. I didn't hate it, nor did I like it. Bend It Like Beckham British sport mixed with Indian culture and a love triangle connecting them. Not my style at all. Pacific Rim It tries to be cool, but I never really understand what's at stake. A lot of things don't make sense and the movie is too quick to hop into things we have little knowledge of, yet takes too long on the things we could stand to see less off. Raiders of the Lost Ark Great Spielbergian classic. Not my favourite of the Spielberg-Williams collaborations, but the film is classic and the Raiders March is undeniable. Harrison Ford is a perfect fit for Indy's character. I also watched the next two Indiana Jones movies. They sufficed, although Raiders is still atop them. Of the movies that were new to me Murder on the Orient Express was the best. The other three were odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 The Adventures of Robin Hood - About as good as classic Hollywood cinema gets. Still one of the best swashbucklers ever. - 10 / 10 SteveMc and Matt C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,357 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I wasn't overly impressed with Wonder Woman either ... for me, a key component of these movies is the action sequences and WW actually seemed fairly light on them given its running time. Is it fair to say that Marvel have 'got their shit together' far more convincingly than DC when it comes to the big screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 She looked hot tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said: Is it fair to say that Marvel have 'got their shit together' far more convincingly than DC when it comes to the big screen? I don't think there's anyone who would disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Funny that, since DC has the star heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Spider-Man isn't a star hero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Marvel doesnt even own Spider-Man at this point. Not for making movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 It’s why the game coming out this Friday is a PS4 exclusive. All that money goes to Sony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt C 452 Posted September 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2018 Gattaca I forgot how good this was, but also how much of a slow burn it was. Had it been released today, it wouldn't have been released through a major studio like Sony. There's a lot of thematic richness and attention to detail, and it still feels relevant even today. I know Ethan Hawke is better known for his collaborations with Richard Linklater, but this is one of his best leading roles for a major studio film. Michael Nyman's score is beautiful but incredibly repetitive. Koray Savas, Marian Schedenig and Naïve Old Fart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2001 has always been a bore. I have found boring for 50 years. I took a class in college, A Religious Survey of 20th Century novel in which we spent weeks on both the book and the film. I was the weirdo in the class that disliked the film but I still got an A. My teacher did pull some BS saying I probably liked Star Wars better. I admitted I did and he asked why. I said well for starters its scored so much better. He scoffed at that saying John Williams was a flash in the pan having a few years good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: 2001 has always been a bore. I have found boring for 50 years. I took a class in college, A Religious Survey of 20th Century novel in which we spent weeks on both the book and the film. I was the weirdo in the class that disliked the film but I still got an A. My teacher did pull some BS saying I probably liked Star Wars better. I admitted I did and he asked why. I said well for starters its scored so much better. He scoffed at that saying John Williams was a flash in the pan having a few years good luck. What a scoffer. You should have responded with an eloquent commentary on Star Wars as existing at the intersection of the Hero's Journey myth, post-modern capitalist theory, and evolving American religious identity. As for 2001, it is to film kind of what Avro Part is to music. There is something distinctly profound in its glacial meandering. It is not something you watch to be entertained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 It's funny; Joe hates 2001, but loves Star Wars. Kubrick's film paved the way for Star Wars, and in turn the blockbuster cinema mentality we got with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Matt C said: Gattaca I forgot how good this was, but also how much of a slow burn it was. Had it been released today, it wouldn't have been released through a major studio like Sony. There's a lot of thematic richness and attention to detail, and it still feels relevant even today. I know Ethan Hawke is better known for his collaborations with Richard Linklater, but this is one of his best leading roles for a major studio film. Michael Nyman's score is beautiful but incredibly repetitive. Wonderful sci-fi film that doesn’t get the love it deserves. Released today, it would be a Netflix film! Amirite @Alexcremers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Matt C said: Gattaca I forgot how good this was, but also how much of a slow burn it was. Had it been released today, it wouldn't have been released through a major studio like Sony. There's a lot of thematic richness and attention to detail, and it still feels relevant even today. I know Ethan Hawke is better known for his collaborations with Richard Linklater, but this is one of his best leading roles for a major studio film. Michael Nyman's score is beautiful but incredibly repetitive. Agreed. It's an underrated film that deserves to be seen by a lot more people. The "epilogue" should have remained, and the Xander Berkeley outtake is a hoot! Nyman's score easily holds up against his Greenaway movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 That score is really good and original for a sci-fi flick. Gattaca is not a movie that I think is getting better as the years go by, but yeah, it definitely deserved more attention. The topic is still relevant and chances are it will not be fiction in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I love Gattaca, its strangely reflective and introverted tone and pacing. It also is a very intimate film based on a concept that as several of you say, is a large one to potentially face all of humanity. And it has Jude Law shouting, "What's your numbah?" over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 9 hours ago, JoeinAR said: 2001 has always been a bore. I have found boring for 50 years. I took a class in college, A Religious Survey of 20th Century novel in which we spent weeks on both the book and the film. I was the weirdo in the class that disliked the film but I still got an A. My teacher did pull some BS saying I probably liked Star Wars better. I admitted I did and he asked why. I said well for starters its scored so much better. He scoffed at that saying John Williams was a flash in the pan having a few years good luck. This is the most disgraceful post I've ever seen on JWFan. I am ashamed to be a member here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Worse than his arguably illegal "assassinate the President" posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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