Jay 37,355 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Here is a simple chronological order you can do without editing tracks. 01 The Adventures of Tintin (3:04) 03 The Secret of the Scrolls (3:13) 05 Marlinspike Hall (3:59) 04 Introducing the Thompsons and Snowy's Chase (4:08) 06 Escape from the Karaboudjan (3:21) 08 Captain Haddock Takes the Oars (2:17) 11 The Flight to Bagghar (3:33) 07 Sir Francis and the Unicorn (5:05) 10 Capturing Mr. Silk (2:58) 09 Red Rackham's Curse and the Treasure (6:10) 12 The Milanese Nightingale (1:30) 13 Presenting Bianca Castafiore (3:28) 14 The Pursuit of the Falcon (5:43) 15 The Captain's Counsel (2:10) 16 The Clash of the Cranes (3:48) 17 The Return to Marlinspike Hall and Finale (5:51) 18 The Adventure Continues (2:58) 02 Snowy's Theme (2:10) If you want to use sound editing software, you can make a more accurate chronological order this way: 01 The Adventures of Tintin (3:04) 03a The Secret of the Scrolls [0:00-1:34] (1:34) 03c The Secret of the Scrolls [2:28-3:13] (0:45) 03b The Secret of the Scrolls [1:34-2:28] (0:53) 05b Marlinspike Hall [0:14-3:59] (3:45) 04 Introducing the Thompsons and Snowy's Chase (4:08) 08a "Introducing Haddock" [0:00-0:34] (0:34) 05a "The Radio Room" [0:00-0:14] (0:14) 06 Escape from the Karaboudjan (3:21) 10b Capturing Mr. Silk [1:03-2:58] (1:55) 11 The Flight to Bagghar (3:33) 08b Captain Haddock Takes the Oars [0:34-2:17] (1:43) 07 Sir Francis and the Unicorn (5:05) 10a "A Sober Haddock" [0:00-1:03] (1:03) 09 Red Rackham's Curse and the Treasure (6:10) 12 The Milanese Nightingale (1:30) 13 Presenting Bianca Castafiore (3:28) 14 The Pursuit of the Falcon (5:43) 15 The Captain's Counsel (2:10) 16 The Clash of the Cranes (3:48) 17 The Return to Marlinspike Hall and Finale (5:51) 18 The Adventure Continues (2:58) 02 Snowy's Theme (2:10) However this creates a very jarring listening experience as you have cues cut-off without going anywhere. I recommend only splitting track 10 with a WAV editor and leaving the rest joined, but re-organized per the first list. NOTE: In the film, "Snowy's Theme" actually plays before "The Adventure Continues" in the end credits; However, in order to listen to them that way, you will have to use sound editing software; The reason is that "The Adventure Continues" overlaps the end of "The Return to Marlinspike Hall and Finale" on the CD, actually beginning during the final second of that track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Thanks Jason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Do people who have seen the film have anything to add concerning the chronological order of the music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Thanks, this is great! Will come in handy once we have seen the movie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Do people who have seen the film have anything to add concerning the chronological order of the music?Well, I guess we learned that Snowy's Theme plays before The Adventure Continues in the actual film's end credits... but honestly as a listening experience I think it works best to have The Adventure Continues play directly after Return To Marlinspike Hall and Finale....and then have Snowy's Theme end the album. Especially since on the OST, they actually overlapped "Return to Marlinspike Hall and Finale" with "The Adventure Continues" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Do people who have seen the film have anything to add concerning the chronological order of the music?I think Alexander said Snowy's Theme goes before The Adventure Continues.Edit: repeated xDJason that might vary if the Unicorn stuff before Snowy's Theme os present or not.Is the Unicorn stuff tracked or new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Do people who have seen the film have anything to add concerning the chronological order of the music?Well, I guess we learned that Snowy's Theme plays before The Adventure Continues in the actual film's end credits... but honestly as a listening experience I think it works best to have The Adventure Continues play directly after Return To Marlinspike Hall and Finale....and then have Snowy's Theme end the album. Especially since on the OST, they actually overlapped "Return to Marlinspike Hall and Finale" with "The Adventure Continues"Yes I think that's true. Unless you want to reprise Sir Francis and the Unicorn as they do in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 I don't see any reason to do that, personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Yes I tried that order but The Adventure Continues followed by Snowy's Theme works better plus there is no redundant repetition of material and the End Credit sequence is not too long. 5 minutes is quite sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I actually like how Snowy's Theme can go into The Adventure Continues, reserving to triple ending to the end, and the contrast between Finale and Snowy's Theme really makes me smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 The problem, though, is to do that you also have to edit track 17, since at the very very last second you can hear "The Adventure Continues" begin to start - which when immediately followed by track 18, sounds fine of course (unless your player doesn't support gapless playblack) - but it will sound weird if you swap tracks without editing out the end of track 17 and pasting it into the start of track 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Ah, that might be why it sounds good to me.Tecnological "problems" aside, It should sound good no matter the order. Love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Your cue "A Sober Haddock" plays right before he lights a fire.You can name "Introducing the Thompsons" as "Chasing Mr. Silk".The jazzy parts are played when the Thompsons and Tintin chase him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 The jazzy parts are played when the Thompsons and Tintin chase him.I'm already picturing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Your cue "A Sober Haddock" plays right before he lights a fire.Really? That's interesting - You're referring to him lighting the fire on the boat, right? Meaning it plays after "Captain Haddock Takes The Oars" and before "The Flight To Bagghar"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Your cue "A Sober Haddock" plays right before he lights a fire.Really? That's interesting - You're referring to him lighting the fire on the boat, right? Meaning it plays after "Captain Haddock Takes The Oars" and before "The Flight To Bagghar"?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Yes.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingsprout 0 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Great list, Jason. Having now seen the film three times, I can tell you that "Capturing Mr. Silk" is placed right after "Captain Haddock takes the oars". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 Main post updated per reports of people who have seen the film. Turns out less editing is required than I had thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Updates coming in a couple of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 Are you saying there is an error in the main post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Or could be that Alexander will be elaborating his findings when he has time to put them all down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 Updates coming in a couple of hours....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Maybe he's going to see it again?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Updated the main post. The first 14 seconds of Marlinspike Hall, as well as the first 38 seconds of Captain Haddock Takes The Oars, plays in the film exactly as they play on the OST. Since that blatantly contradicts information I had, it makes me wonder about the veracity of all my information.Regardless, for a change it looks like this is one OST that can be made chronological by simply re-ordering tracks, no editing required. Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Yes it is very much as you said. Williams has arranged the music so that shorter cues comprising a single track follow each other more or less in the film even though there might be some music missing in between those sections. So rearranging is all that is really needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Well, I guess we learned that Snowy's Theme plays before The Adventure Continues in the actual film's end credits... but honestly as a listening experience I think it works best to have The Adventure Continues play directly after Return To Marlinspike Hall and Finale.My guess is that it was originally planned to start the end credits with The Adventure Continues (segued then by Snowy's Theme and maybe an edit of other tracks at the very end). It's likely Spielberg or one of the main sound editors were so much enamored with the Sir Francis and the Unicorn cue that decided to put it at the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Yea. I think The Adventure Continues would have been a much wiser choice to kick off the end credits with, getting the audience truly excited for the next adventure, as opposed to reprising music they already heard before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 And it has to be said that the way both The Adventure Continues and Snowy's Theme are built either one could end the credits sequence on a resounding note. But I agree that The Adventure Continues would admirably continue the momentum of the finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Because those 2 sections play in the film exactly as they play on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Because those 2 sections play in the film exactly as they play on the OST.Yup.So Jason are you working on a complete score analysis now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 He is!!!!There's a russian cam rip available!!!WHOOHOOO![heavy russian accent]Now i'll see Tintin in Russian![/heavy russian accent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Well this means I have to write one too you know. We can never have too many of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Where did this information come from?Obviously the russian cam rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Again, no JWFanner would openly admit to download such a thing. To do so would be a criminal offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 So where is that complete cue list you promised us, Jason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 You couldn't handle the truth BloodBoal. You just couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'm really looking forward to Jason's complete cue list and score analysis. When I listen to the album in chronological order it feels even more incomplete than in its original order, so I'm very curious about the exact timings and placement of the missing cues (I haven't watched the film yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'm working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'm working on it.I am really looking forward to it Jason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'm working on it.Looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Really really REALLY looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 You wont like it Ric. You seem lukewarm about the score on CD, and that is for once a very accurate representation of the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I'm trying hard to enjoy this score. But I'm also listening to my entire Williams collection in chronological oder, and right now I'm in 1978 so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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