Jay 39,156 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 This is definitely a big enough title to warrant its own thread.INTRADAAnnounces:STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOMEMusic Composed and Conducted by LEONARD ROSENMANINTRADA Special Collection MAF 7114Intrada ends 2011 with one last major release - the complete Leonard Rosenman score to Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. The second film in the series under the helm of director Leonard Nimoy, Nimoy choose a lighter approach to this outing and injected liberal amounts of well-placed humor. For this fourth entry, Nimoy introduced another element he had wanted to bring on board earlier in the series: the music of Leonard Rosenman. Rosenman's Star Trek IV music bears the hallmarks of the composer’s distinctive style: vaulting brass figures, complex textural passages, thumping suspense motives. The main theme—and also Kirk’s theme—is upbeat, heraldic and heroic, its optimistic flavor cutting a different path than the other scores in the series.For this release, Intrada worked from the original session masters housed at Paramount, reassembling the complete score in film order. This presentation also includes numerous bonus tracks, including alternates and the song "I Hate You." A stand-out is an alternate version of the "Main Title." Rosenman created this stately arrangement of Alexander Courage’s classic Star Trek theme to accompany the first part of the opening credits, which appear against a background of deep space.Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986) became one of the most popular and enthusiastically reviewed films to feature the original cast and the first to play primarily as a comedy. The film ties up the loose ends from The Search for Spock: Spock reunites with Admiral James T. Kirk (William Shatner), Dr. Leonard McCoy (DeForest Kelley) and his friends from the now-destroyed U.S.S. Enterprise. Star Trek IV provides an adventure that restores Spock to his role as a sage science officer while rehabilitating the reputation of Kirk and his crew in the eyes of the Federation as they save earth -- again -- from certain destruction.INTRADA MAF 7114Retail Price: $19.99Available for Pre-Order NowFor track listing and sound samples, please visithttp://store.intrada...it.A/id.7334/.fSTAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOMELabel: Intrada MAF 7114Date: 1986Tracks: 24Time = 72:44World premiere release of complete Leonard Rosenman score to all-time classic fourth installment of legendary STAR TREK feature-film franchise, starring William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelley, directed by Nimoy. Intrada presentation is part of current ongoing CD restoration series of complete STAR TREK film soundtracks being overseen by Paramount, this one through courtesy of both Paramount, UMG. (Other titles appear on Film Score Monthly, La-La Land labels.) Time travel, whales feature in this particular movie, Rosenman draws inspiration from both in exciting score. Musical ideas are sometimes energetic, exciting, sometimes cerebral, complex. Rosenman even gives thematic attention to Chekov, a franchise rarity! Complete Intrada CD restoration offers full score with previously unreleased cues, versions appearing on 1986 MCA album plus several alternates including Rosenman's unused take on famous Alexander Courage TV theme. Fun to hear Rosenman's own signature brass "pyramid" at climax of Courage's melody! CD even includes wild "I Hate You" by Kirk Thatcher, Mark Mangini that annoys Star Trek crew on San Francsico bus ride. Production by Lukas Kendall, mix & assembly by Mike Matessino plus definitive liner notes by Jeff Bond round out stellar package, itself designed by Joe Sikoryak to comfortably fit in with other STAR TREK feature soundtrack restorations. Leonard Rosenman conducts.01. Logo/Main Title† 2:5202. Starfleet Command/On Vulcan/Spock/Ten Seconds of Tension 1:4003. The Probe 1:1604. The Probe—Transition/The Take-Off/Menace of the Probe/Clouds and Water/Crew Stunned 3:0805. Time Travel 1:2806. Market Street* 4:3807. In San Francisco 2:0108. Chekov’s Run 1:2109. Gillian Seeks Kirk 2:4210. Hospital Chase 1:1411. The Whaler 2:0012. Crash/Whale Fugue 8:3813. Kirk Freed 0:4414. Home Again†/End Credits 5:39Total Score Time: 40:06THE EXTRAS15. Ballad of the Whale* 4:5916. Main Title† (alternate) 2:5617. Time Travel (alternate) 1:2918. Chekov’s Run (album ending) 1:1919. The Whaler (alternate) 2:0520. Crash/Whale Fugue (album track) 8:1521. Home Again† and End Credits (alternate) 5:1622. Main Title† (album track) 2:4023. Whale Fugue (alternate) 1:0524. I Hate You** (contains explicit lyrics) 1:59Total Extras Time: 32:32*Performed by The Yellowjackets, Composed by Leonard Rosenman, Russell Ferrante and Jimmy Haslip.**Performed by Edge of Etiquette, Written by Kirk Thatcher, Arranged by Mark Mangini.†Contains “Theme From Star Trek (TV Series)” by Alexander CourageThe only thing that isn't clear on Intrada's website or forums - as far as I've seen - is exactly when it ships. Does anybody know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 348 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Late December. No specific date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,201 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Thats my only complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I may see if I can have a go at editing the prologue when this comes out. Always felt it worked well as an overture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I messaged Roger on Facebook about shipping deal and he said the reason why there's no specific date is because they're still waiting to hear back from the pressing plant. Otherwise there would have been a set shipping date in said announcement.Either way I'm really excited about this release. I never thought I would be able to hear the scores for Star Trek II through V in their complete form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,156 Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 I may see if I can have a go at editing the prologue when this comes out. Always felt it worked well as an overture.I'm truly surprised they didn't include their own edit as a bonus track, especially considering they had the room to include it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Hoyt 13 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I'm excited, its the only Trek movie score that I have never owned in any form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 When I listened to the samples, I really paid attention to the film version for "Logo / Main Titles". The old MCA disc had a really horrible edit between the two materials. This time though Matessino did a hell of a job at blending those two together properly. That was one thing that always bugged me about the old MCA disc was that jump in the two different pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I'm not getting it just yet. Since my dad doesn't live all that far from their retail store, I'm thinking about dropping by while I visit him for the holidays.But otherwise, this is a damn nifty set here. Can't wait to own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,201 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 According to rumors, it will be "released" officially this later this week..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,241 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Meh, I'll pass. Something about this score always annoyed me. Doesn't sound like it belongs in the Star Trek universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,201 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Doesn't sound like it belongs in the Star Trek universe.Cue comparison to Trouble with Tribbles and I mudd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,241 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Fair enough. Then again, I never especially enjoyed the sillier side of TOS's scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,251 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 This movie didn't exactly take place in the Star Trek universe. It was more our world circa the 80s, with the Star Trek crew bumbling around. I feel the music fit like a glove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Is this the first Intrada soundtrack to contain an explicit lyric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,156 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 Probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruckhorn 111 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Fuck if I know.Not in a rush to get it. I'll combine with next Intrada order, whenever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm going to also wait and see if I want what FSM releases soon. I do want to get all three, the Rosenman, JG, and Barry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Has there by chance been any update from Roger about when this will be shipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,201 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Rumors have it, that this will be released later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,156 Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Trent, I was just on Intrada's messageboard looking for that information and they have posted NOTHING about it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Trent, I was just on Intrada's messageboard looking for that information and they have posted NOTHING about it yet.Okay thanks Jason.Rumors have it, that this will be released later this week.It's almost at the end of the week all ready..so I think those rumors were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,156 Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 I just posted a message on Intrada's board asking for an update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I noticed that "Crash / Whale Fugue" was longer for the time compared to the album version. Now grant the album version is listed as a bonus track but curious about that I emailed Mike Matessino regarding this cue. This is what he had to say on the matter.Yeah, the cue was originally longer and strangely, even though they didn't use a lot of the "conversation" stuff in the film, they shortened the cue for the album in such a way that it still fit the film exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,201 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 In the film there is an alternate (to my ears of course) to when the probe turns to leave, where it favors Rosenman's Trek theme to the Spock motif (where in the album its the other way around) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 348 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Interesting about the Crash / Whale Fugue.One piece of editing I might do for my HD would be to separate out the short cues into individual tracks, and place "I Hate You" into it's place in the score order (After the "San Francisco cue"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Interesting about the Crash / Whale Fugue.One piece of editing I might do for my HD would be to separate out the short cues into individual tracks, and place "I Hate You" into it's place in the score order (After the "San Francisco cue").For my iPod I too will be separating the cues that were meant to be separated. I'll leave out "I Hate You" because I don't want it to disrupt the flow of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Intrada's front page says late December for Star Trek IV. I just checked there to nab an album cover to the last album I tagged.I am going to leave the song as the last track on the album because by that point, the "score" has concluded. Putting it where it goes in the movie would be jarring.Unless Leonard Nimoy stops by and nerve pinches my iPod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 348 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I think I'm likely to organize my virtual albums like so:Star Trek 04 - The Voyage Home==============================1. Logo / Main Title2. Starfleet Command3. On Vulcan4. Spock5. Ten Seconds of Tension6. The Probe7. The Probe—Transition8. The Take-Off9. Menace of the Probe10. Clouds and Water11. Crew Stunned12. Time Travel13. Market Street14. In San Francisco15. I Hate You16. Chekov’s Run17. Gillian Seeks Kirk18. Hospital Chase19. The Whaler20. Crash / Whale Fugue21. Kirk Freed22. Home Again / End CreditsStar Trek 04 - The Voyage Home - Extras and Alternates======================================================1. Main Title (album track)2. Time Travel (alternate)3. Chekov’s Run (album ending)4. The Whaler (alternate)5. Crash / Whale Fugue (album track)6. Main Title (alternate)7. Whale Fugue (alternate)8. Home Again and End Credits (alternate)9. Ballad of the Whale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 The release page for this now has a shipping date.http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7334/.f1/4/2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,415 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Completely missed this, for some reason. What a treat!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,201 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 When did January 2012 become late December 2011? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Completely missed this, for some reason. It was cloaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,415 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 No, that would be ST VI.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,201 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Ahem, The Klingon ship was in IV Croc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Klingon ship(s) in all the first ten films except 2, 9 and 10, as I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,415 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Well, yes. But there was another cloaked one in VI.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Khan had Klingon ships in the Kobiyashi Maru scene. That counts, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Sort of -- even though it was a simulation senario, so yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 348 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Battlecruiser (D7) was seen in TMP, Kobayashi Maru Simulation in Trek II (stock footage from TMP used on simulator view screen), and in VI. Cloaking was not established at that time (though it was for a ship from that era in TNG, so we know they could cloak).Bird-of-Prey was introduced in III, and was subsequently seen in VI (experimental model that could fire when cloaked) and Generations (including stock footage from VI).Just being the nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 216 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 My copy has shipped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 6,201 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 YES YES YES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 348 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Still waiting for Screen Archives to ship it (along with Giacchino's Up from Intrada). Listening to Trek II and Trek III on my daily commute as a sort of informal countdown until it gets here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 My copy has shipped!Awesome to know they're now shipping. I can't wait to get mine.I thought about starting tomorrow to listen to Star Trek The Motion Picture, then on Thursday listen to Star Trek II and on Friday listen to Star Trek III. If I get my copy of Star Trek IV by Friday or at least this weekend I'll listen to that once I get it.Battlecruiser (D7) was seen in TMP, Kobayashi Maru Simulation in Trek II (stock footage from TMP used on simulator view screen), and in VI. Cloaking was not established at that time (though it was for a ship from that era in TNG, so we know they could cloak).Bird-of-Prey was introduced in III, and was subsequently seen in VI (experimental model that could fire when cloaked) and Generations (including stock footage from VI).Just being the nerd Actually cloaking devices were established in the Original Series.Anyways regarding the Bird Of Prey that could fire while cloaked, that was the only one the Klingons developed and it was a prototype. Had it been successful the Klingons would have probably built more. However, as we know it was only detected through the neutron radiation surge and of course a rigged torpedo.It wouldn't have surprised me by the time Nemesis came along that the Romulans / Remans took that idea and made a super predator ship that could fire while cloaked and leave no trace behind. They probably also used the gathered information from the Defiant when she was on missions in the Gamma Quadrent to refine the cloak even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 My copy has shipped!I received my email confirm as well. 2012 is starting off great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 348 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Trent,Romulan Cloaking Devices were seen in Balance of Terror and The Enterprise Incident.Klingon vessels were not shown to cloak until the Bird of Prey in Star Trek III.The cloaked Klingon ship was actually a Romulan ship using Klingon design (The Enterprise Incident). It is widely theorized that the Klingons got the Cloaking Device during the brief treaty with the Klingons in exchange for the D7 designs.The experimental Bird of Prey that could fire while cloaked was detected by the Neutron radiation surge, as you said, though of course the thing apparently "had a tailpipe", so the impulse exhaust gasses (I assume) were used as a tracer for the Enterprise's "doctored" photon torpedo.God, we are such nerds on this board Hope mine ships soon ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 340 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Yes we are nerds for this subject but proud of it! I got an order fulfillment from Intrada not too long ago. Not sure how long it generally is between that and when the CD is shipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 348 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Generally they send out the notification as it goes out, from what I remember.They're usually very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Trent,Romulan Cloaking Devices were seen in Balance of Terror and The Enterprise Incident.Klingon vessels were not shown to cloak until the Bird of Prey in Star Trek III.The cloaked Klingon ship was actually a Romulan ship using Klingon design (The Enterprise Incident). It is widely theorized that the Klingons got the Cloaking Device during the brief treaty with the Klingons in exchange for the D7 designs.The experimental Bird of Prey that could fire while cloaked was detected by the Neutron radiation surge, as you said, though of course the thing apparently "had a tailpipe", so the impulse exhaust gasses (I assume) were used as a tracer for the Enterprise's "doctored" photon torpedo.God, we are such nerds on this board Hope mine ships soon ...Nerd. Actually, I knew all that, too. And don't forget the treaty that prohibts the Federation from using cloaking devices ("Pegasus", TNG).And I believe it was Data that pointed out in a TNG episode that there were other races that used cloaking as well.Makes me wonder why Klingon and Romulan ships of the 24th century didn't have 24th century "tailpipe" equialents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 348 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The Treaty of Angeron. I believe the Breen also have cloaking technology.I suspect impulse and warp signatures could be hidden better with improvements from earlier cloaking technology.The BOP in Star Trek III has a rather visible energy distortion, so it was far from perfect (Kind of a wavy effect, almost like the atmospheric distortions that can happen when looking at stars through a telescope).Okay, I think us Trek fans are scaring everyone else on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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