Quintus 5,391 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I've absolutely no idea what The Patriot sounds like, or Angela's Ashes. Goldsmith's Congo may as well have been lost in it. Pretty sure I've no idea what Sabrina sounds like, either. Nor The Wind and the Lion. Jane Eyre is a musical mystery to me, however I do own a copy of The Ghost and Mrs Muir.And yet I don't feel like I'm missing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 The Patriot sounds kinda like Far & Away and War Horse. Congo sounds like 90's Goldsmith action adventure. The Wind and the Lion sounds like 1970's Goldsmith action and adventure. What does Legends Of The Fall sound like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 490 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I've absolutely no idea what The Patriot sounds like, or Angela's Ashes. Goldsmith's Congo may as well have been lost in it. Pretty sure I've no idea what Sabrina sounds like, either. Nor The Wind and the Lion. Jane Eyre is a musical mystery to me, however I do own a copy of The Ghost and Mrs Muir.And yet I don't feel like I'm missing out.Wind and the Lion is fun. As for Jane Eyre I'm only familiar with the three part suite. I've never heard the others you mention.I do have a tendency to feel I'm missing out on stuff people mention because, well, people like them, maybe I might like them too.What does Legends Of The Fall sound like?You know. Elegiac strings, flute solos, shakukachi-like things, 90's Horner trumpet solo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Ignorance can be a virtue...it surely isn't with most of the scores you mentioned.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFORF8iSnsY&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Angela's Prayer is breathtaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 What does Legends Of The Fall sound like?Cocoon meets Dances with Wolves +100 schmaltz. It's okay after a few drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1DJC79PDCkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soC1H7P0UAA&context=C33354bcADOEgsToPDskLB2RbuHufsMlyp9RpfosrE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFORF8iSnsY&feature=relatedLiking the Goldsmithianisms galore but I'd have thought the much missed maestro might have left it a little bit longer before dishing out second servings in his Poltergeist score for that film's clown shocker: 0:39 - 0:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Liking the Goldsmithianisms galore but I'd have thought the much missed maestro might have left it a little bit longer before dishing out second servings in his Poltergeist score for that film's clown shocker: 0:39 - 0:45Maybe harem pants triggered a 'high pitched trumpets' button in Ponytail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 He did not have a ponytail during Wind and the Lion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Inch pincher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Never heard a note of Spartacus, King Kong (1930s), Voyage To The Bottom Of the Sea, Gone WIth The Wind, The Egyptian, Cleopatra, The Ten Commandments, Ben Hur and a million other really old scoresAs far as more modern scores, never heard The Black Hole, The Sand Pebbles, The Wind and The Lion, Under Fire, First Blood, The Edge, The Shadow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I would certainly recommend Under Fire. Really a unusual and fantastic score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 FIRST BLOOD is essential, as is KING KONG and JANE EYRE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 King Kong is not essential. Max Steiner isn't actually that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 First Blood, The Edge, The Shadow...You haven't even heard the themes? Wow, you're in for a treat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 All the modern RCP scores. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight ,Transformers,PotC.. etc. I only heard them in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 But you've seen those films, right? I'm fairly sure you have.You have heard the scores (in some capacity), KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Well, yes, I made a precision I hard them in the film only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 490 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I didn't like itI dislike parts of the love theme, but I love the action material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 1,821 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 The Patriot sounds kinda like Far & AwayNO.King Kong is not essential. Max Steiner isn't actually that good.Wrong again.Never heard a note of Spartacus, King Kong (1930s), Voyage To The Bottom Of the Sea, Gone WIth The Wind, The Egyptian, Cleopatra, The Ten Commandments, Ben Hur and a million other really old scores.Well you're missing at least half a dozen masterpieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 And yet he is your administrator!Lee - who seriously doubts that Jason hasn't ever heard Gone With the Wind, or Parade of the Charioteers - the latter of which is an important cue if you're interested in JW's influences (and homages). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Really guys, really.I have not seens or listened to that many films/scores... but there are some works that are obligatory...And If you are a williams fan... you at least try everything from him once!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,638 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I don't think you can go through life without having heard Ben-Hur at least once.You haven't lived if you haven't heard Star Of Bethlehem/Adoration Of The Magi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,971 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Never heard a note of Spartacus, King Kong (1930s), Voyage To The Bottom Of the Sea, Gone WIth The Wind, The Egyptian, Cleopatra, The Ten Commandments, Ben Hur and a million other really old scoresAs far as more modern scores, never heard The Black Hole, The Sand Pebbles, The Wind and The Lion, Under Fire, First Blood, The Edge, The Shadow...Well, they're all on Youtube if you'd care to listen, or do I have to post the links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I've listened to most noteworthy scores outside of RPC ones.Then there are some I don't understand why they are so wanted and haven't listened to them :Friday the 13 box set, Die Hard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Never heard a note of Spartacus, King Kong (1930s), Voyage To The Bottom Of the Sea, Gone WIth The Wind, The Egyptian, Cleopatra, The Ten Commandments, Ben Hur and a million other really old scoresAs far as more modern scores, never heard The Black Hole, The Sand Pebbles, The Wind and The Lion, Under Fire, First Blood, The Edge, The Shadow...You need to hear Ben Hur. And El Cid. Ivanhoe. Spellbound. I could go on. Miklos Rozsa ranks very highly among my favourite composers of all time.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72lzXjDuCxo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,202 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Wow, some of folks really have a whole lot of scores to catch up. You're missing out on some of the greatest film music ever composed!Max Steiner is not good...he's BRILLIANT! The man revolutionized film scoring as we know it. So yes, King Kong and Gone with the Wind are necessities for fans of the Golden Age.And how can some of you call yourselves Goldsmith fans without having listened to Wind and the Lion (one of my favourite Goldsmith scores!) or Under Fire. And you haven't heard a true epic until you've heard Rozsa's works. Go now and get yourself a copy of Ben-Hur, El Cid (get the Tadlow recording), King of Kings and Quo Vadis (can't wait for the Tadlow re-recording of this score!). John Williams isn't the only legend out there my friend. By the looks of it, many of you have yet to explore the vast world of film music. It may not be for everyone, but there are wondrous works to be found in the Golden Age!- KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,442 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I've absolutely no idea what The Patriot sounds like, or Angela's Ashes. Goldsmith's Congo may as well have been lost in it. Pretty sure I've no idea what Sabrina sounds like, either. Nor The Wind and the Lion. Jane Eyre is a musical mystery to me, however I do own a copy of The Ghost and Mrs Muir.I knew I wanted to buy the soundtrack to The Patriot the moment the I heard its music in the theater. I have Angela's Ashes but it hasn't made the rotation yet. I never heard Congo (outside the film) or Sabrina (ever), and don't own them either. The Wind and the Lion has a fantastic main theme, but I have yet to make it through both of Intrada's discs and remember anything. And while The Ghost and Mrs. Muir is in the Bernstein Film Music Collection, I haven't listened to any of it yet. I've also never heard Jane Eyre.What does Legends Of The Fall sound like?Pick a Horner, any Horner...I've never heard it.Never heard a note of Spartacus, King Kong (1930s), Voyage To The Bottom Of the Sea, Gone WIth The Wind, The Egyptian, Cleopatra, The Ten Commandments, Ben Hur and a million other really old scoresAs far as more modern scores, never heard The Black Hole, The Sand Pebbles, The Wind and The Lion, Under Fire, First Blood, The Edge, The Shadow...I bought the Spartacus OST. It's loud and obnoxious. I know it deserves a less subjective listen, but that day is not coming any time soon.King Kong (1933) is great, but if you played it for me now, I wouldn't recognize it, and I can't get past the first few tracks of Rhino's Gone With the Wind.I never listened to Cleopatra outside the movie (which I scarcely remember), and never listened to either Voyage To The Bottom Of the Sea or The Egyptian.But The Ten Commandments is one of my most truly treasured film scores, coming from a nostalgically favorite film, and a complete presentation is my #2 holy grail.And while Ben-Hur is not my favorite Rozsa score -- that would be El Cid -- it is his quintessential score. If listening to one Rozsa score must be on your bucket list, it must be Ben-Hur.The Black Hole is great, but I'm sure there are "better" Barry scores to tackle first. I know the main themes to The Sand Pebbles, Under Fire, and First Blood from Goldsmith's concerts, but their albums haven't made my rotation yet. The Shadow has a great main theme, but I wouldn't recommend it over other action scores like The Mummy or the superiorThe 13th Warrior.The Edge is probably Goldsmith's most beautiful film score to come out of the 1990s and early 2000s, and I highly recommend it.All the modern RCP scores. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight ,Transformers,PotC.. etc. I only heard them in the filmI don't want to listen to HZ's Batman scores or the Transformers scores outside of their films, but the PotC scores are guilty pleasures of mine. There are many activities that infect your soul, curve your spine, and keep the country from winning the war. LIstening to a Hans Zimmer score isn't among them.Then there are some I don't understand why they are so wanted and haven't listened to them :Friday the 13 box set, Die Hard...I didn't take the plastic off LLR's Die Hard yet, but what I can get through of Captain Sisko's expanded edit is a fun listen. I'm glad the Friday the 13th set is there for those who want it, and that it comes out on such a great marketing day.Oh, I think we all know how to use YouTube as well. It's a prerequisite for belonging to this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 1,394 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I've absolutely no idea what The Patriot sounds like, or Angela's Ashes. Goldsmith's Congo may as well have been lost in it. Pretty sure I've no idea what Sabrina sounds like, either. Nor The Wind and the Lion. Jane Eyre is a musical mystery to me, however I do own a copy of The Ghost and Mrs Muir.And yet I don't feel like I'm missing out.The Wind and the Lion is the only one I can hear in my head. (Incidentally, it's one of those scores that I really wanted to like a lot more than I actually did.) I guess I've heard bits of Jane Eyre, but I can't remember them. The others are complete mysteries to me. I haven't heard Munich, either...or Poltergeist...lots of other scores that I "should have" heard by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 6,637 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Quint, my friend, you really are missing out on "The Wind And The Lion". "Raisuli Attacks" is brilliant!! (Hell, the whole damn thing is brilliant!!!)!!!(!!!)!!!"Jane Eyre" is beautiful (I take it you mean J.W.'s "JE"?I've never heard "POTC: 4", or "Sherlock Holmes: 2" I don't think I'm missing much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5,273 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Of course, I don't OWN all the "much-talked-about" soundtracks in film history, but I have at the very least HEARD most of the essentials. So I can't really think of any off the top of my head. Maybe some John Barry ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Speaking of Barry, I've never heard Body Heat, Dances WIth Wolves (outside the film, which I've seen many times), or any James Bond score other than License To Kill outside the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 What are you, a hermit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I guess I've been busy listening to William, Goldsmith, Horner, and Giacchino and haven't found a lot of time to go back and check out other artists yetI did listen to Batman Forever for the first time (outside of seeing the film in the theater the one time) last night and thought it was bloody awesome. Definitely gonna get the LLL release! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5,273 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Speaking of Barry, I've never heard Body Heat, Dances WIth Wolves (outside the film, which I've seen many times), or any James Bond score other than License To Kill outside the filmI'm not much better. I don't like Barry and I'm not a Bond fan, but I've obviously been exposed to many of his scores through the films themselves. I don't have ANY Barry soundtracks in my collection, beyond a few themes on the odd compilation (I've owned some before, but have sold/traded them away). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I did listen to Batman Forever for the first time (outside of seeing the film in the theater the one time) last night and thought it was bloody awesome.BATMAN AND ROBIN is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,294 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Pity much of it is a re-recording. But some of the new material is fantastic.I did listen to Batman Forever for the first time (outside of seeing the film in the theater the one time) last night and thought it was bloody awesome. Definitely gonna get the LLL release!It's even better that way. As interesting as the OST is, the score feels very fragmented. But it turns out there are plenty of well used themes in there. I knew the score almost by heart (from watching the film when I was younger), but never noticed some of these details. For instance, Riddler's theme gets like million different variations.Anyway, I've never heard The Wind and The Lion myself. In fact much of the Goldsmith's output is unfamilair for me. I know (and got) the most popular stuff. I never heard Total Recall, for example. John Barry is a great unexplored territory as well.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Anyway, I've never heard The Wind and The Lion myself. In fact much of the Goldsmith's output is unfamilair for me. I know (and got) the most popular stuff. I never heard Total Recall, for example. John Barry is a great unexplored territory as well.KarolWIND & LION and TOTAL RECALL belongs to the most-popular stuff. Not that it is mandatory to like it, but if you have a more than fleeting interest in the composer, almost any released score from 1968 - 1983 is noteworthy in at least some regard.WIND AND THE LION is much more intellectually stimulating than one might think: Goldsmith uses the same basic notes to describe the wind (Connery's berber sheik) and the lion (Brian Keith's Roosevelt), only that he sets one in an arabic idiom, the other one in americana setting. The motifs complement each other, even in a mutual dialogue (THE LETTER). Add the barbaric percussion and how Goldsmith is able to translate moroccon music in western orchestral writing and you have one of the most brilliantly conceived adventure scores ever. It may not be as catchy as THE MUMMY or RAIDERS, but it's a work of genius, nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,294 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Is it just me or was it recently re-released by Intrada? I'm sorry I don't follow all the news out there.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Not recently, but you're right, it's available as an MAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6,294 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I might give it a try then.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 925 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Never heard a note of Spartacus, King Kong (1930s), Voyage To The Bottom Of the Sea, Gone WIth The Wind, The Egyptian, Cleopatra, The Ten Commandments, Ben Hur and a million other really old scoresWow! I'm more surprised that you haven't even seen the films!You aren't into old films, are you?But you can't have heard even a note from Gone with the wind. Not even in TV commercials, or Oscar music montages or something?This is impossible..here, make a present to yourself and listen to this milestone of filmmusic: (original main title music as heard in the film) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I've heard some of that. It's a bit overwrought. Well more then a bit....The movie is shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,442 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 What he means by "never heard a note of" is that he never spun those albums with the specific intention of listening to the music. Or saw the films probably, either, in order to remember the music, which is probably more sad.But if the music was used in a commercial or documentary or Oscar montage, without specific credit being given at the moment to what was being played, then he would never know what it was to be able to later say that he heard it. Savvy?For instance, there are plenty of short thematic passages in symphonies or ballets by Beethoven, Rossini, or Tchaikovsky that are not as famous as the main melodies, but still get used in commercials or TV shows, and people never know itI heard "Dances with Wolves" in the trailer to an upcoming show on PBS long before I made sure that I listened to the album I had gotten from Napster (SOPA! SOPA!! SOPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!), and after realizing what it was, I made damn sure that I went out and bought myself a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Never heard a note of Spartacus, King Kong (1930s), Voyage To The Bottom Of the Sea, Gone WIth The Wind, The Egyptian, Cleopatra, The Ten Commandments, Ben Hur and a million other really old scoresWow! I'm more surprised that you haven't even seen the films!You aren't into old films, are you?But you can't have heard even a note from Gone with the wind. Not even in TV commercials, or Oscar music montages or something?This is impossible..I have never seen any of those movies. I have nothing against old movies, they are just not high on my list of movies I have in my "to watch" listI'm sure I've heard parts of the scores to many of those films in other things, I just wasn't aware of it if I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,442 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 It's like a holiday whenever Ben-Hur is shown on TCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 925 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I can't think of an often mentioned score i haven't listened to. Even if i haven't seen the movie I may have listened to a sample or 2 in TV trailers, or in youtube..hmmmm, maybe some Morricone stuff.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 85 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Nice question. I actually don't know any Star Trek soundtracks except the Giacchino one, and two Jerry Goldmisth ones (First Contact and Star Trek Motion Picture)Never heard a note of Spartacus, King Kong (1930s), Voyage To The Bottom Of the Sea, Gone WIth The Wind, The Egyptian, Cleopatra, The Ten Commandments, Ben Hur and a million other really old scoresWow! I'm more surprised that you haven't even seen the films!You aren't into old films, are you?But you can't have heard even a note from Gone with the wind. Not even in TV commercials, or Oscar music montages or something?This is impossible..here, make a present to yourself and listen to this milestone of filmmusic: (original main title music as heard in the film) Is Gone with the Wind a good watch also for modern audiences? Generally I like the 40-ies and 50-ies romantic movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 925 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 well, if you like them, then yes.But i'm not sure.. Modern audiences usually don't like old stuff.I myself hadn't watch many classic films (except the most famous ones - big epics and religious stuff) until 2 years ago. From that time, I'm watching classics all the time.From the 100% of movies i watch, a 95% is movies from 1930-1980.And i watch usually a movie per day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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