Giacchino homages Williams' Tintin theme in John Carter score?

[TheUlyssesian 2,103]

http://www.youtube.c...v8kmSs#t=04m41s

From 4:41 to 5:02. The first phrase is very similar, only the first two notes are inverted.

Giacchino has already said that he loved Tintin's score (who didn't??), so is this a slight homage to Williams' (future classic??) theme?

Listen for yourself.

Its also stated in this track first at 1:18 and then again at 1:55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVEYOb4_mM4#t=01m18s

[King Mark 2,924]

yeah noticed it before. It's like when he ripped off the E.T. themes for Super8

Still, it's ok because it sounds good

[Brónach 490]

I dont think it-s an hommage. I dont know if he would have heard Tintin when he wrote John Carter.

And it would be kind of weird basing the Thark theme on Tintin-s

[King Mark 2,924]

I think he heard Tintin's theme before he wrote this. I think it's a semi-rip off but not as obviously done as Horner might do it

[Brónach 490]

Thats because it isn-t complete and Tintin-s theme usually starts with the high note.

[TheUlyssesian 2,103]

I think he heard Tintin's theme before he wrote this. I think it's a semi-rip off but not as obviously done as Horner might do it

Tintin has been out since in October (in Europe) and these guys travel a lot so...

And he definitely scored John Carter after the release of Tintin, Dec-Jan is when he scored it.

yeah noticed it before. It's like when he ripped off the E.T. themes for Super8

Still, it's ok because it sounds good

His other themes from John Carter are very good so no beef. He is an ace composer and very probably Williams' heir.

[Quintus 5,391]

It's like a weaker version of a weak theme.

But then what else did I expect?

[Hlao-roo 388]

The Tintin theme is not weak; it is destined to become a classic. The Pope said so.

[KK 3,202]

His other themes from John Carter are very good so no beef. He is an ace composer and very probably Williams' heir.

I don't understand why people keep hailing Giacchino as such. Personally, I don't think Williams will have an heir. After all the great A-list composers are gone (Horner, Elfman, Williams, etc.), the new generation will be filled with talented composers but none of them reaching the level of dominance in the industry as Williams did (or the other A-list composers of our time).

[Roll the Bones 2,967]

His other themes from John Carter are very good so no beef. He is an ace composer and very probably Williams' heir.

I don't understand why people keep hailing Giacchino as such.

How many scores of his have you listened to?

[KK 3,202]

His other themes from John Carter are very good so no beef. He is an ace composer and very probably Williams' heir.

I don't understand why people keep hailing Giacchino as such.

How many scores of his have you listened to?

A lot. I really like Giacchino a lot (although his recent scores have been disappointing) but he sure as hell is not the next Williams. The only major hole I have to fill in my Giacchino collection are his LOST scores (probably something I should fix very soon). His Medal of Honor scores are amongst my personal favourites, but he hasn't really lived up to that greatness since then. I am very much looking forward to John Carter though.

[indy4 152]

Giacchino has already said that he loved Tintin's score

When did Giacchino say he liked Tintin?

[Not Mr. Big 3,589]

Giacchino's work lacks any seriousness or gravity. He only goes for the cartoony comedic way. Are there any of his scores that don't feel like that because I would really like to check it out.

[Brónach 490]

Giacchino's work lacks any seriousness or gravity. He only goes for the cartoony comedic way. Are there any of his scores that don't feel like that because I would really like to check it out.

[Roll the Bones 2,967]

Giacchino has already said that he loved Tintin's score

When did Giacchino say he liked Tintin?

WQXR?

[TheUlyssesian 2,103]

His other themes from John Carter are very good so no beef. He is an ace composer and very probably Williams' heir.

I don't understand why people keep hailing Giacchino as such. Personally, I don't think Williams will have an heir. After all the great A-list composers are gone (Horner, Elfman, Williams, etc.), the new generation will be filled with talented composers but none of them reaching the level of dominance in the industry as Williams did (or the other A-list composers of our time).

Of course. Williams is peerless and will always will be. Giacchino is his heir in the sense in this move towards the trash "scores" of Trent Reznor and the likes, Giacchino will hold the baton for large orchestral scores filled with melodic grace. He's not Williams' equal, but will continue in the same tradition but at a lesser plane of achievement.

Giacchino has already said that he loved Tintin's score

When did Giacchino say he liked Tintin?

WQXR?

Yep, he said it on WQXR when asked something like what was his most recent favorite score.

Giacchino's work lacks any seriousness or gravity. He only goes for the cartoony comedic way. Are there any of his scores that don't feel like that because I would really like to check it out.

I would say in today's times its actually a gift. Scores today lack a lightness of touch, an innate cleverness, they all go for serious angst droning or pounding.

[Jonesy 55]

Of course. Williams is peerless and will always will be. Giacchino is his heir in the sense in this move towards the trash "scores" of Trent Reznor and the likes, Giacchino will hold the baton for large orchestral scores filled with melodic grace. He's not Williams' equal, but will continue in the same tradition but at a lesser plane of achievement.

I agree, that boy is our last hope

[Ricard 1,821]

Of course. Williams is peerless and will always will be. Giacchino is his heir in the sense in this move towards the trash "scores" of Trent Reznor and the likes, Giacchino will hold the baton for large orchestral scores filled with melodic grace. He's not Williams' equal, but will continue in the same tradition but at a lesser plane of achievement.

Sure, as many other composers better than Giacchino did, do, and will. They are all Williams heirs.

[Sharkissimo 1,971]

Giacchino's work lacks any seriousness or gravity. He only goes for the cartoony comedic way. Are there any of his scores that don't feel like that because I would really like to check it out.

Exactly. Proof that when Giacchino does attempt "seriousness", it just ends up as dull, lifeless, forgettable underscore.

Of course. Williams is peerless and will always will be. Giacchino is his heir in the sense in this move towards the trash "scores" of Trent Reznor and the likes, Giacchino will hold the baton for large orchestral scores filled with melodic grace. He's not Williams' equal, but will continue in the same tradition but at a lesser plane of achievement.

I agree, that boy is our last hope

There is another....

[Quintus 5,391]

If only there bloody was.

[BLUMENKOHL 1,064]

What the hell are you people talking about Giacchino not doing serious music with gravity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-Cpp7x_bk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGsCAGe6mfo

[indy4 152]

That track title isn't helping the cause.

[Not Mr. Big 3,589]

I don't mean minimalistic gravity though. Like big moments of despair like "The Fire and the Coming of War" from Geisha and some of the War of the Worlds stuff.

[KK 3,202]

Of course. Williams is peerless and will always will be. Giacchino is his heir in the sense in this move towards the trash "scores" of Trent Reznor and the likes, Giacchino will hold the baton for large orchestral scores filled with melodic grace. He's not Williams' equal, but will continue in the same tradition but at a lesser plane of achievement.

Sure, as many other composers better than Giacchino did, do, and will. They are all Williams heirs.

This is what I mean. Giacchino isn't the only guy left to keep up the tradition of grand orchestral music. When people claim he's "our last hope", I feel that you guys seem to be missing the other great and talented young composer out there in the industry.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251]

Indeed.