Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Will be giving Freud from the same year a listen at some point as I honestly don't recall anything about it... I assume it sounds just like Alien ;-) Not really. It’s its own thing, although some will sound familiar. I didn’t care much for it when I first heard it but it’s grown on me and is honestly a superb work well deserving of his first Oscar nom. (That said, I also consider Lonely Are the Brave and Studs Lonigan to be Oscar deserving scores.) Regarding Lonely Are the Brave… my reaction was similar to yours when I first heard it. It took years to become my favorite Goldsmith western score (which for a long time was held by 100 Rifles), much less favorite Goldsmith feature score. It’s subtle. But if you allow it to, it will grow on you. And it will really help to experience it in film context, as the film itself is very powerful and the score is perfect for it. I’ll PM you. He did some other fine work in 1962 though lots of it is unreleased TV stuff. Two more things you can explore on album though are The Spiral Road (lots of great stuff in his Asian style, and also one cue that looks forward to Looney Tunes 40 years later of all things!) and his final Thriller score (written for his Trouble With Angels collaborator, Ida Lupino): “The Bride Who Died Twice”. Great Hispanic guitar stuff in that, as you can hear in the Tadlow music video: 4 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: From 1972 I went for Anna and the King which, apparently, was a sitcom (somehow). I honestly had no idea. Have to admit that this is fairly incidental stuff, nice though it is. Given that his body of work at that point was already very impressive (Planet of the Apes, Patton, The Sand Pebbles, The Blue Max amongst others), his 1972 roster was very TV heavy and not exactly thrilling TV at that. I mean Papillon came in 1973 so perhaps he stored up all his energy for that magnificent effort. Actually he did a lot of excellent stuff in 1972, though you’re right that a lot was for TV… but that includes some excellent TV movie scores — Pursuit and Crawlspace in particular are my favorites and I really hope they get premiered on album some day. Check out my “Advance Liner Notes” for both scores here, complete with links to watch them on YouTube/Vimeo: https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=116952&forumID=1&archive=0https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=117275&forumID=1&archive=0 I also did “Advance Liner Notes” for The Man (1972), which was produced as a TV movie just like those two, but which transitioned into a limited theatrical run as well. Intrada will release their new RSNO recording of the score (paired with Black Patch) in the next few weeks! http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113568&forumID=1&archive=0 Listen to generous samples from the new recording here; it’s great stuff although a short score: https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/9988703-production-report-black-patch-the-man-2021-intrada-recording But my favorite Goldsmith score of 1972 was for a regular theatrical film, by the director of To Kill a Mockingbird! And it’s been released on CD, albeit in frustrating fashion (a single 24 minute suite): I’m referring to The Other, and it’s pretty wonderful. Here’s hoping Varese gives us a definitive Deluxe Edition some day because they control it. You know what his biggest project was in 1972 though? He wrote the famous main theme and scored no less than a half dozen episodes of The Waltons! Supposedly all of that music is lost, alas, but it would make a great candidate for a 2CD Kickstarter re-recording! I did a Complete Score Breakdown for his “Jewish” score for the series, “The Ceremony”, here: https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=117025&forumID=1&archive=0 Also, Papillon was the final thing he scored in 1973, and he was super prolific during the year leading up to it, with a lot of great stuff (first out of the gate was a title theme and pilot score for Barnaby Jones!) 4 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Compared to a relatively modest offerings of those two years, 1982 has an embarrassment of riches... First Blood, Night Crossing, The Secret of NIMH and Poltergeist are all pretty much Jerry classics covering the whole gamut of his more sweeping romantic style from horror, to animation, action and, well, however you'd classify Night Crossing. The latter will always have a special place in my collection as that's the score he signed when I met the great man in 1990something in London and, even without that connection, it's still a great score and appears to be the source for half of James Horner's action tropes from the 80s (I might be exaggerating a little... but only a little). I don't think much else needs to be written about the other three, absolutely terrific. Given the occasionally shonky performances he had to endure due to budgets, all of those four have absolutely stellar sound and performance. On the flip side, Inchon, also from 1982 is definitely less than amazing sonically, but you do feel like you're sitting in the orchestra rather than it surrounding you as a unit. I love Inchon too but he actually recorded that score in 1980, and the film was initially released in 1981. You should swap it out for his awesome score for The Challenge, which did come out in 1982, in theaters the following weekend after NIMH! 4 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Mr Baseball isn't exactly one of his best efforts (I think it gets picked as a lowlight), but it's still breezy fun, although someone with his talent shouldn't have been wasting his time on crap like this. Still, it makes you appreciate his "proper" sports scores in Rudy and Hoosiers. I gave The Public Eye another listen and have to admit that it's more an interesting curiosity than a forgotten classic... I got a lot more out of Mark Isham's replacement effort if I'm honest. Still, nice to hear it if nothing else. Of course 1992 also gave us Basic Instinct, Forever Young, Love Field and Medicine Man. You'd think that would be more than sufficient for one year. You forgot my favorite (maybe not best) score of that very packed and impressive year: Mom and Dad Save the World! It’s so much fun and so creative and energetic, like an honorary Dante score. Can’t wait for Varese to expand it! You also forgot another unused score that year — Gladiator. It’s not a favorite of mine but when I saw some cues restored to picture it made an amazing difference in film context. Yavar Tom Guernsey and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 John Cacavas' very nice arrangements of Jerry's Police Story theme, one of his best TV themes IMO, for a late 80s TV movie Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Re THRILLER JG and BH really knew how to write for small ensemble. A skill no doubt honed by their radio work. It still.blows my mind that folks are so dedicated to this music that they would spend so.much.time and money to record it. Amazing!😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: It still.blows my mind that folks are so dedicated to this music that they would spend so.much.time and money to record it. Amazing!😄 Well, costs were much lower since the orchestras were so small, and apparently that first Tadlow Thriller volume actually turned a profit unlike most re-recordings -- and it did so fast enough to lead to the second volume being greenlit very quickly! Yavar bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 THRILLER is probably the only Goldsmith I ever owned before Moradi did. Did you ever buy them , Yavar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Of course! Great stuff. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I finally start to have a decent basic collection of Jerry Goldsmith's albums. Not too bad for a guy who didn't have any CD of Jerry Goldsmith 3 years ago!!! The discography of Jerry Goldsmith is so vast and rich, that I decided to go with "essential" albums first, of course, my collection will continue to grow in the next years. Many essentials are still missing, either because they are on my wishlists, or because they simply are actually OOR (Out of Reach). Yavar Moradi and Tom Guernsey 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 I see you still need The Shadow expanded. We need that one constantly in print. Bespin, blondheim, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I wanted to get Small Soldiers too, but the OST and the OOP Expansion seems to be a bit out of price for the moment... Goldsmith's work is sooo huge, I understand why speciality labels have a hard time to properly reprint some titles. I can wait. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Too bad there cannot be a Complete Jerry Goldsmith Collection the way it exists from Bach and other classical composers. One day maybe. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 A complete collection... of the OSTs? Of re-recordings? That's complicated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 The complication with Goldsmith is, that sometimes He wrote quite forgettable scores for big blockbusters and sometimes wonderful rich scores for rubbish movies. You never know. But basically I am rather a fan of his music from the 50s and 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: ...quite forgettable scores for big blockbusters... Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Such as? Supergirl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Aaw, c'mon, dude. The score is, easily, the best part of the film. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Haven't seen it. But the same applies to Superman. And the score is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Supergirl. That is basically his only forgettable blockbuster score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I don’t find it forgettable; I just don’t like it much! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: That is basically his only forgettable blockbuster score. You mean Rambo? Yavar Moradi and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 "First Blood" is an essential, the OST is on my wishlist because its actually a bit expensive on the "used" market (for what it is). I don't have any interest for the expanded version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 The Intrada edition is twenty dollars and has the OST album on the second disc https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.6859/.f Yavar Moradi and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jay said: The Intrada edition is twenty dollars and have the OST album on the second disc https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.6859/.f Thanks, I wrongly assumed it was OOP (and didn't know the OST was included). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 No problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 You can debate about which one is best, but all three Goldsmith Rambo scores are awesome and certainly far from forgettable. Yavar Moradi, Bespin, Edmilson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 I was being facetious! I haven't really listened to them enough to really judge them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Like the THE OMEN trilogy, the Rambo scores get more operatic, as the films get more ambitious. I like all three Rambo scores, but FIRST BLOOD is, definitely, the best. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I prefer Planet of the Apes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Jay said: The Intrada edition is twenty dollars and has the OST album on the second disc https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.6859/.f Had it. Liked it. Traded it for something I liked better! 6 hours ago, Bespin said: "First Blood" is an essential, the OST is on my wishlist because its actually a bit expensive on the "used" market (for what it is). I don't have any interest for the expanded version. Alot of folks are scamming this title on EBAY ! 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I prefer Planet of the Apes. Admit it it- you LOVE the song from RAMBO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 4 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Admit it it- you LOVE the song from RAMBO! I was referring to Elfman's score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 56 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I was referring to Elfman's score. What does that hafta do with RAMBO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 49 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I don't know. I'm reporting you for " derailing a thread". 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 384 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Kino Lorber announced today that they are releasing Leviathan on 4K Ultra HD. That MIGHT mean that a score expansion is also in the works, similar to Legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Does anyone know if there are any good Jerry Goldsmith books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Gibster said: Does anyone know if there are any good Jerry Goldsmith books? Jeff Bond has a two volume book being published soonish…that’s the one I’d recommend. https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=147139&forumID=1&archive=0 Yavar Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Thank you. Does anyone know what happened to the biography with his son? Most of it is online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Gibster said: Thank you. Does anyone know what happened to the biography with his son? Most of it is online You mean the biography his daughter Carrie was writing? Only a few chapters were ever online, and very few people read the whole thing. Lukas Kendall is one of them and he tells the story here: https://www.lukaskendall.com/post/the-unpublished-jerry-goldsmith-biography Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 44 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: You mean the biography his daughter Carrie was writing? Only a few chapters were ever online, and very few people read the whole thing. Lukas Kendall is one of them and he tells the story here: https://www.lukaskendall.com/post/the-unpublished-jerry-goldsmith-biography Yavar Thanks for sending Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2022 Jerry's sentimental lullaby music here is just so lovely. Maybe not the kind of thing that would make anyone's highlight reel, but just yet another example of him finding just the right emotional feeling for the scene and executing it perfectly. 2:00 - 3:25 ragoz350, blondheim and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Recently got this box and it is really a strange salad of Jerry Goldsmith score snippets. It really didn't make me want to extend my Goldsmith collection. It presents in many ways Goldsmith as a utility musician and not as an artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Huh! I think it does a pretty good attempt at an overall view of his career, for beginners. But a lot of the performances are inferior to the originals so if I were trying to convert someone I’d just burn my own 4CD compilation for them. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 This track from a video game score samples a Piano/Keyboard from a Jerry Goldsmith score, can you guess which one? @Yavar Moradi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 7,984 Posted February 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2023 It would have been Jerry's 94th birthday today. Some of my absolute favourite cues of his: I wanted to include The Monster Tractor from Supergirl but couldn't find it. Karol Romão, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Tom Guernsey and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 For me it would be the expansion of L.A. Confidential which just got an IFMCA Nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted February 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2023 A really nice selection for sure. My personal selection: Main Title from Damien: Omen II Gremlin Credits from Gremlins: The New Batch An Unending Story / End Titles from Basic Instinct Main Title from Alien The Dream from Total Recall The Enterprise from Star Trek: The Motion Picture crocodile, Tom Guernsey and Naïve Old Fart 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,280 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Remembering his late, great Jerryness with Tadlow’s terrific suites and themes selection they added to their equally excellent recording of The Blue Max, one of my favourite compilation as it has a few hits (The Mummy, Patton, The Final Conflict) alongside some rarities (Gathering of Eagles, The Chairman, the latter being a horrible tease for those who would love to see this get a new recording to replace the horrible sounding OST) and a listen to the expanded Matinee which is just so insanely delightful, whimsical, fun and catchy. It’s what he would have wanted. Yavar Moradi and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted February 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2023 I'll take these: Spoiler And add: Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Naïve Old Fart, crocodile and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted February 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2023 Bloody Hell's bells! Jerry wrote some absolutely astonishing stuff! Tom Guernsey, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Thank you for awesome selections you've posted, @Marian Schedenig, @crocodile, @May the Force be with You, I had a blast listening to all of them. Goldsmith was an absolute giant Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 What are the best/must have Goldsmith expansions? I have STTMP, Basic Instinct, Total Recall, Chinatown and First Knight. any other recommendations ? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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