Faleel 5,345 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/B006YZAPVE6 CD Box Set has 87 Tracks and over 7 hours of Music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 It can't be definitive if it's performed by the City of Prague... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Their last Williams compilation had 4 cd's. This one must include re-recordings of some of the more recent scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjguitar 0 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The 4 CD set (released in 2003) had ommitted several tracks that were previously released in the Silva library.Since then, they've recorded numerous new Harry Potter tracks, Geisha, Munich, War of the Worlds, Tintin and War Horse among others I'm not remembering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,680 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 At 7 hours, that's going to be pretty damn comprehensive.It can't be definitive if it's performed by the City of Prague...Some of their stuff is good. I prefer their version of the end credits from ToD because Willie's theme (I think it's her theme) is much slower and richer than on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around.Indeed.The earlier dismissal feels like something you could have read in the mid 90's. WAY out of place now and just falls on its own unreasonability.I just say 'keep repackaging, Silva'. Get the JW love out there! This is not really for us hardcore fans in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 7 hours seems around the length of my Williams Prague playlist (which currently doesn't exist in my iTunes). Perhaps not including the recent Potter stuff. I think I have almost everything they've done aside from Viktor's theme and the Irwin Allen themes. Their later stuff is better, but there are still worthwhile tracks on the earlier albums. Unique versions unavailable elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Did they ever record Marion's theme from KotCS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjguitar 0 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Did they ever record Marion's theme from KotCS?Unless they did for this release, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I really hope they recorded that and Irina's Theme especially for this new CD. Hell I might buy it if they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around.Indeed.The earlier dismissal feels like something you could have read in the mid 90's. WAY out of place now and just falls on its own unreasonability.C'mon, it's not like this won't be 80% or more from the John Williams 4 CD box set. And that is, for the most part, horrible. Also, I'd think that somebody whose opinions are so unpopular around here would be more tolerant of those that differ from his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around.Indeed.The earlier dismissal feels like something you could have read in the mid 90's. WAY out of place now and just falls on its own unreasonability.C'mon, it's not like this won't be 80% or more from the John Williams 4 CD box set. And that is, for the most part, horrible. Also, I'd think that somebody whose opinions are so unpopular around here would be more tolerant of those that differ from his own.I have nothing against it, it just sounds like a 'blast from the past', like criticizing Elfman for not writing his own scores (which was all the rave in the 80's and even into the 90's).Prague has developed immensely since those days, and is now among the top film orchestras in the world.As for the seleciton and 're-packaging'....again, these compilations aren't for hardcore fans like ourselves (even though I personally enjoy compilations like this more and more again), but for a more general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I think I'll actually buy this set. I had their 4 disc set a few years back, but ended up selling it. This could be a nice set though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 "There's a new Harry Potter re-package coming out too:http://www.amazon.co...c/dp/B00701QW1S" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Hmm, hopefully a choirless Double Trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 "There's a new Harry Potter re-package coming out too:http://www.amazon.co...c/dp/B00701QW1S"It says its going to a single CD release. How is a "complete" HP collection supposed to fit on one CD? Oh and the Prague orchestra has really become one of the best for film scores since Tadlow came into the picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 City of Prague is actually really great now. The early recordings stink, but around the time that Tadlow came in the scene things turned around.Indeed.The earlier dismissal feels like something you could have read in the mid 90's. WAY out of place now and just falls on its own unreasonability.C'mon, it's not like this won't be 80% or more from the John Williams 4 CD box set. And that is, for the most part, horrible. Also, I'd think that somebody whose opinions are so unpopular around here would be more tolerant of those that differ from his own.I have nothing against it, it just sounds like a 'blast from the past', like criticizing Elfman for not writing his own scores (which was all the rave in the 80's and even into the 90's).Prague has developed immensely since those days, and is now among the top film orchestras in the world.As for the seleciton and 're-packaging'....again, these compilations aren't for hardcore fans like ourselves (even though I personally enjoy compilations like this more and more again), but for a more general public.My comment was that this can't be a definitive recording because in all likelihood the music will be repackaged from a CD with a horrible performance. Hence, most of this 6 CD set will probably be awful, regardless of how good the orchestra has become in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 How do you know this will be 'repackaged from a CD with a horrible performance'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 A supposed representative from Silva has posted the track list on FSM:CD1Star Wars: A New Hope:01. Star Wars: A New Hope02. Cantina Band03. Princess Leia04. The Throne Room / FinaleStar Wars: The Empire Strikes Back:05. The Imperial March06. Han Solo and The Princess07. The Asteroid Field08. Yoda's ThemeStar Wars: Return Of The Jedi:09. Forest BattleStar Wars: The Phantom Menace:10.Anakin's Theme11.The Flag Parade12. The Adventures Of Jar Jar13. Duel Of The FatesStar Wars: Attack Of The Clones:14. Across The StarsStar Wars: Revenge Of The Sith:15. Battle Of The HeroesCD2Raiders Of The Lost Ark:01. The Raiders March02. The Map Room / Dawn03. The Basket Game04. Marion's Theme05. Airplane Fight06. The Ark Trek07. Raiders Of The Lost ArkIndiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom:08. Nocturnal Activities09. The Mine Car Chase10. Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom End CreditsIndiana Jones And The Last Crusade:11. Indy's First Adventure12. X Marks The Spot / Escape From Venice13. No Ticket / Keeping Up With The Joneses14. Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade End CreditsCD3Harry Potter And The Philosopher's Stone:01. Hedwig's Theme02. Nimbus 200003. Harry's Wondrous World04. Christmas at Hogwarts05. Leaving HogwartsHarry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets:06. Fawkes The Phoenix07. The Chamber of Secrets08. Gilderoy Lockhart09. Dobby the House Elf10. Reunion of FriendsHarry Potter And The Prisoner of Azkaban:11. Aunt Marge's Waltz12. The Knight Bus13. Double Trouble14. A Window to the Past15.Witches, Wands and Wizards16. Mischief Managed / A Window to the Past / Buckbeak's FlightCD401. The Adventures Of Tintin: The Secret Of The Unicorn - The Adventures Of Tintin02. War Horse - The Reunion03. War Of The Worlds - Suite04. Munich - A Prayer for Peace05. The Terminal - The Tale of Viktor Navorski06. Minority Report07. Catch Me If You Can08. Artificial Intelligence: AI - Where Dreams Are Born09. Saving Private Ryan - Hymn To The Fallen10. Amistad - Dry Your Tears, Afrika11. Schindler’s List - Theme12. Jurassic Park - Suite13. Hook - Main Themes14. Always - Follow Me / Dorinda's Solo Flight15. Empire Of The Sun - Exsultate JustiCD501. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial - Adventures On Earth02. 1941 - March03. Close Encounters Of The Third Kind - The Conversation Begins / Main Title / Resolution and Finale04. Jaws05. The Sugarland Express06. Memoirs of a Geisha - Sayuri's Theme & End Credits07. Far And Away - End Credits08. JFK - Arlington / End Titles09. Presumed Innocent10. Born On The Fourth Of July - End Credits11. The Witches Of Eastwick - Dance Of The Witches12. The River - Main Theme / Love Theme13. Olympic Fanfare and ThemeCD601. Dracula - Main Titles & Storm02. The Fury03. Superman04. Black Sunday - Suite05. The Missouri Breaks - Love Theme06. Family Plot - End Titles07. Battle of Midway08. The Towering Inferno09. Earthquake10. The Long Goodbye11. Cinderella Liberty - Nice To Be Around12. The Poseidon Adventure13. The Cowboys - Suite14. Jane Eyre - Theme15. The Rare Breed - The Cross-Breed / End Credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Looks like a great collection to me, although I would rather have seen a wider presentation than the exclusive STAR WARS/INDY/HP focus on the first three discs. But on the other hand, these franchises have so much great music that they need a meaty selection.Obviously, I own all of these (as do most of us), but still -- great career overview, with the most important stuff covered. And then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Bunch of new stuff:Tintin, War Horse, Olympic Fanfare, Missouri Breaks, Long Goodbye and Cinderella Liberty previously unreleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Crap no KotCS Marion's Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Maybe the Raiders one will turn out to be the same arrangment KM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Nah they already recorded the old version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Looks like a great compilation for a newbie and with a wide range of Williams' music included, not just the greatest hits. And looks like they have included some of the recent stuff and 70's rarer scores as an incentive for more devoted fans to get this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Looks like a great collection to me, although I would rather have seen a wider presentation than the exclusive STAR WARS/INDY/HP focus on the first three discs. But on the other hand, these franchises have so much great music that they need a meaty selection.Obviously, I own all of these (as do most of us), but still -- great career overview, with the most important stuff covered. And then some.I agree. Personally I could do without the first three discs, even knowing it's all awesome music. I prefer the focus on the other Williams stuff.Bunch of new stuff:Tintin, War Horse, Olympic Fanfare, Missouri Breaks, Long Goodbye and Cinderella Liberty previously unreleased.Missouri Breaks, The Long Goodbye and Cinderella Liberty have been released before. Of course, they could have recorded them again, but not their m.o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Well those will be new for me. I wish they'd included the Irwin Allen themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 City of Prague is actually really great now. Yes. I'd say this is actually one of the better orchestras in the world... and I will probably get this set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 You can get the newThe Adventures of TintinWar Horse tracksthrough itunes, since 12.12.2011. The Album is called "Filmmusic 2011" (Tintin is a fantastic new interpretation.. a little bit more quirky than the OST Version!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Well I stand corrected, there's a decent amount of good, unusual stuff on here. I just hope they rerecorded some of the tracks available on their previous 4 CD compilation (especially "Adventures on Earth" and "Duel of the Fates"). I probably won't get this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 It'll probably be the old stuff. I don't have the 40 Years set handy, but is this that with additional CDs? It looks like I may even be able to ditch the Star Wars and Harry Potter CDs.I think their versions are still worth having. Some definitely stink. Some of their slower interpretations are actually pretty neat played in that tempo. They're also an occasional break from the usual versions we all know and love. Plus, their versions of Towering Inferno main title and the concert version of Dry Your Tears, Afrika kick ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I don't remember what was wrong with Duel of the Fates, but Adventures on Earth was performed at such a dismal tempo if I remember right. What bothers me most is their recording of Arlington from JFK - I seem to remember the horn solo in the beginning having a blatant wrong pitch. But it was played with such conviction and never fixed obviously, which makes me think it's a problem in Nic Raine's transcription of the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 What bothers me most is their recording of Arlington from JFK - I seem to remember the horn solo in the beginning having a blatant wrong pitch. But it was played with such conviction and never fixed obviously, which makes me think it's a problem in Nic Raine's transcription of the piece.Lol, just listened and you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjguitar 0 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 It'll probably be the old stuff. I don't have the 40 Years set handy, but is this that with additional CDs? It looks like I may even be able to ditch the Star Wars and Harry Potter CDs.Not really. The 40 years set had more cues from Jane Eyre and Rare Breed to name a few, but this new set renders the Six Star Wars Films disc, the Indiana Jones Trilogy disc, and the Harry Potter compilation obsolete (if you don't care about the Doyle and Hooper scores). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't remember what was wrong with Duel of the Fates, but Adventures on Earth was performed at such a dismal tempo if I remember right. What bothers me most is their recording of Arlington from JFK - I seem to remember the horn solo in the beginning having a blatant wrong pitch. But it was played with such conviction and never fixed obviously, which makes me think it's a problem in Nic Raine's transcription of the piece.And I seem to remember this version had cornet solo instead of a horn. I would check but I am moving soon and all my JW CDs are in boxes already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Nooo, it's definitely a horn in the recording, i just checked it on itunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Seems to be nothing of interest here, and except two or three all are previously released. I wish they'd focus on recording unreleased concert pieces of his film scores instead: in this way they would interest both parts of the filmmusic market - casual buyers and the die-hard JW fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,339 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Seems to be nothing of interest here, and except two or three all are previously released. I wish they'd focus on recording unreleased concert pieces of his film scores instead: in this way they would interest both parts of the filmmusic market - casual buyers and the die-hard JW fans.They did that, trying to please the die hard fans, with recordings of the concert version of JFK's prologue, or the suites from Black Sunday and The Rare Breed... but people keep saying how bad they are. I can see why they won't put much more effort on this anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 To be fair though, people keep saying how bad they are about áll of their CDs (even though they have fantastically improved); and I do remember people being positive about the unreleased stuff like The Rare Breed and the HP material.The point is: instead of recording pieces that are on the OST, they could with zero extra effort just as well record the concert versions of the same pieces. I don't know why they don't do that. Perhaps it's contractual, but then they did that with POA, plus I can't see how Williams would forbid someone to record pieces that he expressly adapted from his film scores precisely to be performed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Maybe it's cheaper for them to pay someone to transcribe something instead of buying or renting the published scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I was in Prague two summers ago....I should have found me some Czech musicians and asked what's up with those arrangements??!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonexperience 0 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Hi,I don't know about anybody else but when these compilations come out I use them to canvas family and friends and introduce them to Williams' greatness. I get asked from time to time to go to local high schools and music schools to speak on film music, its great to close a lecture by saying 'if you want to here most of the masters finest works get this album......................' With the economy and the life of a student they don't have much spare cash so its ideal.As long as 1 person leaves with a greater understanding of the greatest composer of our age I am happy LOL.Ad (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComposerEthan 8 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I was thinking of buying this, and I was wondering, does anyone have it already and is it worth it to buy? The compilation looks great to me, but I listened to some of the previews online and they sounded..empty? I don't know how else to describe, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I just recieved the set in the mail today. It's a very nice looking set. Each disc comes in a seperate slim jewel case with it's own cover and those fit into a cardboard slip case.As for the music - it's rerecordings. Different interpretations. If that doesn't bother you then it's worth getting. But if you're more attached to how the original recordings sound then you may not be satisfied. There are also one or two rarities on the set that may be worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComposerEthan 8 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ah, yes I see. The collection looks very impressive, and I do enjoy rerecordings from time to time (as I have the "original" soundtrack versions of some of the songs). What's the best song on the CD, in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 You should be aware that a lot of these recordings are by a not-very-good ensemble at really poor tempos. I've been told the City of Prague has improved in recent years, but I'm assuming a lot of these recordings come from older releases before they suddenly got better. Here's an example of what I consider to be a vastly inferior recording from one of their previous releases:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010WXYV4/ref=dm_mu_dp_trk6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComposerEthan 8 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 So is this worth buying..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 It's worth buying. Overall the performances are pretty good and the ensemble has been consistently good since around 2006/2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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