Jay 37,314 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 In the original ending of QOS, Bond was to go to the house of Guy Haines, one of the Quantum members seen at the opera house. Mr White is there, and Bond spins around to shoot him, like the opening gunbarrel sequence of CR, then captures Haines. It was basically a retread of the CR ending, and was wisely jettisoned so they could do whatever they wanted in the next film instead of having the continue the story directly again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 The big problem of QoS for me was the extremely bad editing of the action scenes. There were frantic cuts, too many close ups and too short or non existing establishing shots. At times you had no idea what happens geographically because the camera always was zoomed in on the actors or cars etc.It really detrimented the whole film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 The big problem of QoS for me was the extremely bad editing of the action scenes. There were frantic cuts, too many close ups and too short or non existing establishing shots. At times you had no idea what happens geographically because the camera always was zoomed in on the actors or cars etc.It really detrimented the whole film.This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 It was shot and edited like Bourne. Devoid of wit, gadgets, and an interesting villain. It wasn't Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 604 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Time Out: It seems that the script is sometimes an after-thought on huge productions.Craig: ‘Yes and you swear that you’ll never get involved with shit like that, and it happens. On “Quantum”, we were fucked. We had the bare bones of a script and then there was a writers’ strike and there was nothing we could do. We couldn’t employ a writer to finish it. I say to myself, “Never again”, but who knows? There was me trying to rewrite scenes – and a writer I am not.’Time Out: You had to rewrite scenes yourself?Craig: ‘Me and the director [Marc Forster] were the ones allowed to do it. The rules were that you couldn’t employ anyone as a writer, but the actor and director could work on scenes together. We were stuffed. We got away with it, but only just. It was never meant to be as much of a sequel as it was, but it ended up being a sequel, starting where the last one finished.’Source: http://collider.com/daniel-craig-quantum-of-solace-script-problems/130951/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 It was shot and edited like Bourne. Devoid of wit, gadgets, and an interesting villain. It wasn't Bond.Yes, those are my problems with it. It wasn't as FUN as a Bond film should be. Casino Royale worked without gadgets, but by the end of QOS we should have had SOMETHING cool. SO glad Q is in SkyfallTime Out: It seems that the script is sometimes an after-thought on huge productions.Craig: ‘Yes and you swear that you’ll never get involved with shit like that, and it happens. On “Quantum”, we were fucked. We had the bare bones of a script and then there was a writers’ strike and there was nothing we could do. We couldn’t employ a writer to finish it. I say to myself, “Never again”, but who knows? There was me trying to rewrite scenes – and a writer I am not.’Time Out: You had to rewrite scenes yourself?Craig: ‘Me and the director [Marc Forster] were the ones allowed to do it. The rules were that you couldn’t employ anyone as a writer, but the actor and director could work on scenes together. We were stuffed. We got away with it, but only just. It was never meant to be as much of a sequel as it was, but it ended up being a sequel, starting where the last one finished.’Source: http://collider.com/...roblems/130951/Aha! Very interesting. That explains a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 It was shot and edited like Bourne. Devoid of wit, gadgets, and an interesting villain. It wasn't Bond.Yes, those are my problems with it. It wasn't as FUN as a Bond film should be. Casino Royale worked without gadgets, but by the end of QOS we should have had SOMETHING cool. SO glad Q is in SkyfallSame here. I understand the reasoning behind it in Casino Royale (I still missed them), but it's not hard to just create gadgets that technology hasn't made available to the public yet. Just do some stuff like in Nolan's Batman. I loved how Wayne EMPs all the cameras in The Dark Knight Rises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,674 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 My problems go beyond the lack of gadgetry/lame villain, and poorly directed action scenes.I just found it such an uninteresting film, and, no doubt due to the writers' strike, very unclear what was going on in the story. I still don't quite know what the plot was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Yea I never connected before that the film was affected by the writer's strike until I read that snippet Once posted above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 604 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I remember when I first read that interview, it all made sense to me, and suddenly I thought QoS was quite well done considering the circumstances! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 It was shot and edited like Bourne. Devoid of wit, gadgets, and an interesting villain. It wasn't Bond.It was a departure from the norm, with Bond. He was still cool and the movie was totally watchable for every moment Daniel Craig was onscreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 A departure from the norm is no longer Bond, it's an action movie with Daniel Craig. I haven't seen it since theaters, so we'll see if I find anything to salvage when I watch it on Blu with the rest of the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Quantum was more of a Bond movie than Licence to Kill. That felt like a chintzy 80s action movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 And it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Who's Adele? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Rooollling innn theee deeeeaaaaayeeaeaaappp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Any Winehouse + curves - drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Adele is easily the person in the world with the most contradicting photos in terms of attractiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Who's Adele? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 If Adele does the theme to Skyfall, she could call it "23". Geddit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 so this time the producers let the composer do the song.why arnold was never allowed (and when they did his songs were either rejected or relegated to end credits...)?Uncool bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Never? He wrote the title songs for TWINE and CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I forgot TWINE....CR? did he really wrote the music? he could have used it more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 The theme of the song plays throughout the whole score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Ba-dam, ba-dam, bá-daaam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 The theme of the song plays throughout the whole score!just the rythmnot like in the barry scores, or twine, or TND (the unused song theme...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 2:03-2:11[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8BAUALunT8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 What cliffhanger?I find the gun barrel at the end fantastic.I find QoS a terrific Bond film in general. Don't understand why some find it dissapointing.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 2:03-2:11[media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8BAUALunT8in my first draft, i was going to post ' he quotes it only once in one cue (that one)in the rest ist just the opening-or rythm right?dont be so picky, lets face it, the main title theme is not used as lavishly as in a barry score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 What cliffhanger?I find the gun barrel at the end fantastic.I find QoS a terrific Bond film in general. Don't understand why some find it dissapointing.Agreed.What I find the most refreshing is that the plot does not revolve around death lasers from space or nuclear bombs or world wars for the 74th time. We had enough of that in the last 50 years of Bondness, and it was getting to the point where the audience didn't take it serious anymore. Something that would never have happened in the early days.And it doesn't have a bloated runtime (like Casino Royale) and arduous romance.Even though Vesper was different in CR, it was still too close for comfort to the Brosnan era "this time, he REALLY cares!"People don't watch Bond films to see Bond engage in meaningful relationships with women, they watch it because Bond is precisely NOT that.The plots to the movies became simpler in the same tempo the love affairs became more complicated. Time to change that.Imagine Connery lamenting about Stockholm syndrome, or tolerating talk about Freudian defense mechanisms. Urgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Considering the strike, it came out fairly well. The action scenes' editing isn't great, but whatever. Few are these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 People don't watch Bond films to see Bond engage in meaningful relationships with women, they watch it because Bond is precisely NOT that.i think the purpose of this film, as a reboot/remake was to stablish bond as a 00, and why he is lax in his relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Y'know, if this Adele thing turns out to be true, they may well have the best charting Bond song since A View to a Kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Still no details?This has to be the worst publicity campaign in the history of Bond movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I don't think people will see a movie based on its opening song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 People take interest in a Bond title song, always have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 604 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Alright, that's the same article that has been posted all over the net as being the source of confirmation for this news even though it starts by out by saying "I think I can confirm..." I do think Adele will be performing the title song but this shouldn't be being read as confirmed until either Eon or Sony chime in, which I suspect will be any day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 604 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 It's the only time it uses the word "confirm" though. I love that word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Not that I don't believe that Adele sings the song, but "confirmed" it's just an empty word here, unless they reveal reliable source of that news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacius 7 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Well this should 100% confirm Adelehttp://www.showbiz411.com/2012/09/25/exclusive-adele-james-bond-skyfall-song-is-classic-007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Not only does it confirm it, it made me excited to hear it. Admiral Holdo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krang 1 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I'm looking forward to it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 It ain't 100% confirmed until Babs & Mickey G. put out a press release talking about how thrilled they are to have Adele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I think by this point if it wasn't her someone would have said otherwise, from one of the camps. Bond Day is October 5th so at this point its just waiting for then for the announcement to happen. Good to see they went with a singer, rather than a performer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Bond Day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Yeah, October 5th is World Bond Day to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of Dr. No release, and there's going be a lot of hoopla and events on that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now