crocodile 7,939 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I completely forgot this film existed after Horner dropped out. It was seriously the only major reason for me to see it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 it's not going to do well at the boxoffice either.the crowds are simply not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,621 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 it's not going to do well at the boxoffice either.the crowds are simply not there. "Box Office: ‘Ender’s Game’ No. 1 With $27 Million"http://www.imdb.com/news/ni56379954/?ref_=hm_nw_tp_t1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I was pleasantly surprised by the film. Keep your expectations within reason, and you'll probably enjoy it. For a $110 million film, it looks twice that, thanks to Digital Domain's excellent work. And it's well-paced, so not a lot of people will be bored.Asa Butterfield was really good in this film, and if his parents keep him centered -- he's going to have a nice career ahead of him. Hood ends the film in that if it doesn't become a hit, it functions fine as a standalone film. If it makes money, the sequel(s) can easily build off that.And Jablonsky's score has been a big step up from what he's done in the past. Some really good string writing (as Koray already pointed out), and at times, it seems like Jablonsky was flirting with Daft Punk's style from Tron Legacy. Some good choral work as well, and it works just fine in the film. I have no problem with Jablonsky's score at all. Enjoyable in parts, I daresay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 it's not going to do well at the boxoffice either.the crowds are simply not there."Box Office: ‘Ender’s Game’ No. 1 With $27 Million"http://www.imdb.com/news/ni56379954/?ref_=hm_nw_tp_t1it's a bit premature to say it's got 27 million, Sunday hasn't happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 You are gonna like it.Probably not (even though Jason loves 97% of everything that flickers). I read they simplified it (the book is more 'deep') so the masses wouldn't feel stupid. This movie needs to be a popular blockbuster, you know. The trailer doesn't appeal to me (I just don't like how it looks) and I guess I'm not the only one who feels this way. Most people just wanna see Gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I want to see a new movie release every weekWhy wouldn't I want to see Ender's Game if it's at least half decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not everyone goes to the theater every week, KM. Take me, for instance, when was the last time that you saw me at the movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Alex, when was the last time anyone saw you.... anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 You are just lazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted November 3, 2013 Author Share Posted November 3, 2013 Alex you're confusing me with Koray again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 In all fairness its an easy mistake to make... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not everyone goes to the theater every week, KM. Take me, for instance, when was the last time that you saw me at the movies?most people don't have agoraphobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,449 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I was pleasantly surprised by the film. Keep your expectations within reason, and you'll probably enjoy it. For a $110 million film, it looks twice that, thanks to Digital Domain's excellent work. And it's well-paced, so not a lot of people will be bored.Asa Butterfield was really good in this film, and if his parents keep him centered -- he's going to have a nice career ahead of him. Hood ends the film in that if it doesn't become a hit, it functions fine as a standalone film. If it makes money, the sequel(s) can easily build off that.And Jablonsky's score has been a big step up from what he's done in the past. Some really good string writing (as Koray already pointed out), and at times, it seems like Jablonsky was flirting with Daft Punk's style from Tron Legacy. Some good choral work as well, and it works just fine in the film. I have no problem with Jablonsky's score at all. Enjoyable in parts, I daresay.Nice to see that Digital Domain is still going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Digital Domain has definitely seen some rough patches, but I think they're on solid ground now. They co-produced the film with Summit/Lionsgate and OddLot Entertainment -- which gives them a financial stake in the film (and allowed the studio to keep costs down).I don't think DD is at the level of Industrial Light & Magic or Weta Digital, but they're quite good. They definitely share company with MPC, Rhythm & Hues, Framestore, and Double Negative in terms of output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 ok well I started reading the first few chapters of the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 About halfway through and so far it's not the most compelling book I've read. The description of the environments isn't very good and it's hard to get a mental picture of what's happening, especially the battle games. It also skips time a bit too fast in the events without really knowing what happened in between.It also shows it was written before the Internet existed as the technology is more advanced today than the future depicted in the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 He predicted tablets in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 Mark, stick with it - the best part of the book is the ending (both climax and the denouement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,888 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I saw the film last night and mostly enjoyed it but the score was second rate copy of second rate RC. How does Jablonski have such a strong career when consistently producing such generic mediocrity? I do agree the expectations should be limited to enjoy the film.Though I haven't read the book, one thing that I thought was a negative was how do you feel sympathy for the lead characters if you and they both thought the threat wasn't real since it was a set of training exercises? Only at the end do we realize it was real so difficult to have had much of an emotional attachment to the outcome. Though Orson Scott Card is considered a great story teller, doesn't the problem with the film lie with the story? The execution of it is fine, cast is good, special effects good but the story is not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The book is about Ender's internal struggle dealing with being told and forced to do things to fulfill this predetermined destiny that he doesn't really want nor understands. Card has said it took this long to adapt the novel because he felt that a film would never be able to capture his thoughts. Guess he saw something in the filmmaking here that you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Doubtful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Mark, stick with it - the best part of the book is the ending (both climax and the denouement)Yes, the last part got much more interesting.Now I'll see the movie this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I just watched the film.The best word to describe it is probably "meh". Meh story, meh characters, meh acting (for the most part), meh score... Only the visual effects are really spectacular, but that's not enough, is it?The movie has an open ending, but I honestly don't know where this could go from that point onwards, and I'm not sure I even care...5/10Oh, and two things I'd like to mention:- The first time the kids entered in the battle room, and they're using their weapon for the first time, why on earth do they go like: "Shoot me!" How idiotic can you get? They have no idea what effect this will have on their body, yet they do it anyway. Really stupid moment.- About the twist: were all the "simulations" prior to the final evaluation also real battles, or was it only the last battle that was real? It's quite unclear to me. I guess only the last one was real, since before that, he lost a battle where I think the "cannon-ship" got destroyed (the one he uses to destroy the planet), yet they only had one, but I'm not certain of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 I haven't seen the film yet, but in the bookeverything at Battle School is a complete simulation, and once he gets to Command School, he's really commanding real ships, but he doesn't know it (and neither does the reader) until after he's destroyed their home planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 He predicted tablets in the 80s.So did Star Trek.If you want impressive, HG Wells predicted flat screen tvs in the 1930s. That's pretty, pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Is the Epilogue in the film?I found that part in the book doesn't really hold up if you think about it too long. Why did the buggers send just a single egg at the last moment for Ender to find and save their race? There should have been Queens already in the bugger colony planets, as long as they weren't in the ships to get destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 The epilogue of the book is basically there to set up the sequel novel that came out next year, Speaker For The Dead, in which (spoiler for Ender's Game, not Speaker for the Dead) the whole thing revolves around Ender having the one egg and looking for a place to let it hatchI can't remember if the book gives a good reason why there was only one egg left behind or not..... I guess it's a non important detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 No, it doesn't, and it seems important to meso Ender is in the sequel book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I haven't seen the film yet, but in the bookeverything at Battle School is a complete simulation, and once he gets to Command School, he's really commanding real ships, but he doesn't know it (and neither does the reader) until after he's destroyed their home planetThat's how it is in the film to I believe. I haven't read the book yet, but having watched the film, I had the same reaction as BloodBoal. It turned out to be exactly what I thought it'd be.Meh.It was alright, not particularly engaging or all that entertaining really. I didn't find the visual effects to be all that it was hyped to be either. It was sometimes very good, but not amazing. Overall, it doesn't make me very excited to bother reading the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Anyone here who has read the book seen it? Appears that's a prerequisite for enjoying the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I was supposed to tonight but I have to delay it a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 No, it doesn't, and it seems important to meso Ender is in the sequel book?Yes, Speaker for the Dead is about Ender in his twenties or thirties, but it takes place thousands of years later because of all the time he spent traveling around the galaxy so all the other characters are long dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Is the Epilogue in the film?Yep.Anyone here who has read the book seen it? Appears that's a prerequisite for enjoying the film.If that's a prerequisite to enjoy the film, then it means it's not a good adaptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I finally saw it. I thought it was a decent adaptation of the book but they skipped a lot of the battle school parts and they kind of changed the way the epilogue goes in the book.I think reading the book just before helped me like the movie better though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Well, the sequel was green lit. Legendary Pictures and Universal will release the film in 3D and IMAX on April 7, 2017.http://variety.com/2014/film/news/pacific-rim-2-confirmed-for-april-7-2017-release-1201251654/Wonder if Djawadi will return to score. The first was such a fun 1990s MV throwback score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Jablonsky scored it, not Djawadi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Huh? Djawadi definitely scored Pacific Rim. That's the sequel Matt C's post is about, and what the article he linked to is about. Now, why he posted it in the Ender's Game thread, I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Didn't read the article, assumed it was an Ender sequel. I did think his comment about it being a 90s throwback score was puzzling but just shrugged and kept it moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Didn't read the article, because I trusted Koko. A mistake I obviously will never make again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 It would be odd if Universal and Legendary suddenly took over the Ender's Game franchise from Lionsgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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